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'Mbappe's move to Real Madrid hanging in balance'

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Yes I know he wants to play for Madrid but surely we can match the fee being asked for?
I just think we should throw our hat into the ring, what the fuck we got to lose? And I know he's turned us down before but things change over time.
 
manimanc said:
'Mbappe's move to Real Madrid hanging in balance'

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Yes I know he wants to play for Madrid but surely we can match the fee being asked for?
I just think we should throw our hat into the ring, what the fuck we got to lose? And I know he's turned us down before but things change over time.
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no, no we can't. we don't have 220m to throw at one player. don't know why people seem to think we have unlimited budgets.
 
manimanc said:
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Yes I know he wants to play for Madrid but surely we can match the fee being asked for?
I just think we should throw our hat into the ring, what the fuck we got to lose? And I know he's turned us down before but things change over time.
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He's turned us down once before so i doubt we would be looking at this,
 
Tb1981 said:
No it’s not
if you target someone, try to get them and fail You can’t then see it as a success
We always have these excuses but essentially once a player is targeted and due diligence carried out you need to be ready and execute the deal.
For many reasons we keep fucking them up
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Agreed mate. Wish we’d sign players that helped us win things

We’ve been fucking up for that many years now, I doubt I’ll see us win anything in my lifetime

It’s still 1983 isn’t it?
 
Oldham Exile said:
Sorry - we have to just disagree

It is all about opinions - and I respect your right to have yours

Mine are that:

All targets should have parameters - and it would be indeed a failure (IMO) if the club was to get sucked into some nonsense just because of some reason akin to vanity

Re Kane - would you have been pleased to see the club pay £500m ? or £400m? or £300?

If the answer is no - then you also have parameters and limits - so has the club - and ours seemed to be about £120m

And my opinion is also that the examples of Messi, Ronaldo (given the deals that they ended up with) - along with Sanchez and others mentioned - have consistently proven our club to have been correct

Really well managed - IMO
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To be honest i agree with a lot of what your
I don’t think Kane is worth more than £100m
Levy stating 150 just took the piss and the press ran with it
It’s the fact we have gone all out to get him with no plan b
I get having a limit, but we are seemingly targeting players we just can’t get
 
Maly said:
Agreed mate. Wish we’d sign players that helped us win things

We’ve been fucking up for that many years now, I doubt I’ll see us win anything in my lifetime

It’s still 1983 isn’t it?
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Slightly missing my point
But I see what your saying
 
Oldham Exile said:
And my opinion is also that the examples of Messi, Ronaldo (given the deals that they ended up with) - along with Sanchez and others mentioned - have consistently proven our club to have been correct

Really well managed - IMO
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You seem to ignore that we would have happily paid Messi more the previous summer and matched PSG’s numbers in this one.

The club needs to stop targeting players from inside the PL unless they have a release clause, and even then, I would only deal with a specific pool of clubs. Many of these clubs don’t want to deal with us in good faith, as proven once again this summer. There isn’t a single player we can’t find similar or better elsewhere. And we as fans should also probably stop pushing PL targets for the most part too

The Kane saga played out exactly like many here predicted and we naively went along. Never again! And the ones who joined the forum to attack me and say it was a done deal miraculously disappeared
 
Oldham Exile said:
Yep - when you think about it - if Kane cannot be secured - who could have been the Plan B? - who is (genuinely) available than would be better then seeing Jesus and Torres being given their chances?

There should normally always be a Plan B - and perhaps in this case - Plan B was agreed to be simply to go with Torres and Jesus rather than buy someone for the sake of it
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The same applies to really promising untested young options. Why bring someone in rather thatln give Delap a shot?
 
Oldham Exile said:
Yep - when you think about it - if Kane cannot be secured - who could have been the Plan B? - who is (genuinely) available than would be better then seeing Jesus and Torres being given their chances?

There should normally always be a Plan B - and perhaps in this case - Plan B was agreed to be simply to go with Torres and Jesus rather than buy someone for the sake of it
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The was a plan B, C, D etc. Pep had a list. This has been reported. It also seems we focused only on Kane, which was an enormous mistake. I 100% believe @twosips when he says he heard the club personally would rather invest in a “project” younger striker than Kane. If we had focused on options that fit that bill, we would have someone here already.
 
Oldham Exile said:
Sorry - we have to just disagree

It is all about opinions - and I respect your right to have yours

Mine are that:

All targets should have parameters - and it would be indeed a failure (IMO) if the club was to get sucked into some nonsense just because of some reason akin to vanity

Re Kane - would you have been pleased to see the club pay £500m ? or £400m? or £300?

If the answer is no - then you also have parameters and limits - so has the club - and ours seemed to be about £120m

And my opinion is also that the examples of Messi, Ronaldo (given the deals that they ended up with) - along with Sanchez and others mentioned - have consistently proven our club to have been correct

Really well managed - IMO
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Kane is a really good player, I’m definitely not doing the guy down. He would’ve been an asset to us who would’ve converted some of our silly dropped points into wins in the league. That said, he’s 28 and the perception is he has suspect ankles (I say perception as I don’t think he misses too many games as he gets rushed back into a team that relies too much on him). I also think he goes missing in big games. What the Spurs fans couldn’t understand was likening his valuation to Grealish, (if Grealish is worth £100m then Kane as England captain is worth £150m). I had it the other way around. Grealish is worth more. I had Kane at around £85 m. But I accept English player tax up to £110m tops.
Spurs and their fans want money for a Messi in his pomp with 3 x Balon d’Ors under his belt, or gambling on a Mbappe or Haaland reaching those heights. Glad we pulled out. I can’t believe the “it’s not our money, pay it” comments. Look where that got Barcelona eventually.
 
Gus Cruz said:
The was a plan B, C, D etc. Pep had a list. This has been reported. It also seems we focused only on Kane, which was an enormous mistake. I 100% believe @twosips when he says he heard the club personally would rather invest in a “project” younger striker than Kane. If we had focused on options that fit that bill, we would have someone here already.
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we already have a project striker, his name is liam delap! if dortmund can play a 16 year old there's no reason why he can't get a game or two for us

kaz7 said:
Pep Guardiola on whether #ManCity would have signed Cristiano Ronaldo if Manchester United hadn't come in for him: "Er, I don't think so." [via
@spbajko
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we absolutely would have lol
 
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