January transfer window

Dzeko has to go IMO. Negredo makes him look average at best. Sell dzeko and bring in the Nigerian lad and/or let guidette step up.

Vidal for CM would be a good but for the money, although he would cost 35-40 m he would allow yaya important rest and would add a whole new dynamic in an already solid midfield.
 
Ray78 said:
Thenumber1blue said:
Dzeko will not be sold in January unless we buy a replacement !

Not necessarily a striker.
yeh, if we got an AM or winger then we could sell Dzeko and Guidetti could fill in for him or if there was an injury to a striker we could afford to play one up top due to more AMs and wingers.
 
JoeMercer'sWay said:
Bpughh said:
JoeMercer'sWay said:
That was a direct swap, kid for kid.

I'd rather not buy anyone and buy the absolute #1 target in the summer, squad management is hugely important and we can't just be buying players willy-nilly.

zouma is a number 1 target. kid is 18 and shut down psg. he's exactly the kind of talent we need and a perfect successor to vk. ready to play now if need be

There's a difference between shutting down a team for St. Etienne in the French League and shutting out Bayern in the CL with Nastasic beside you. By all means as a squad player in place of Lescott, but we need someone with CL experience to partner/cover for Vinnie in the big ties imo.

-- Nov 28th, '13, 14:02 --

Bpughh said:
JoeMercer'sWay said:
That was a direct swap, kid for kid.

I'd rather not buy anyone and buy the absolute #1 target in the summer, squad management is hugely important and we can't just be buying players willy-nilly.

zouma is a number 1 target. kid is 18 and shut down psg. he's exactly the kind of talent we need and a perfect successor to vk. ready to play now if need be

There's a difference between shutting down a team for St. Etienne in the French League and shutting out Bayern in the CL with Nastasic beside you. By all means as a squad player in place of Lescott, but we need someone with CL experience to partner/cover for Vinnie in the big ties imo.


We stole Nastasic from Fiorentina in exchange for Savic even though they are happy with him, he still makes the same mistakes as when we had him. Zouma is a big time top tier player and still very young while playing in a top league. Zouma Nastasic and Rekik would be the future of our squad for many years to come.
 
zandvoort blue said:
Dax777 said:
5 key issues
GK
LB
CB
CM
Sale

Can`t see us addressing the situation big time until the summer. Fine tweeking, and a little more luck with injuries will hopefully see us to a successful end to the season. Also, clubs just do not let their best players go in the January market. Money may talk, but then they have to try and get replacements in. But to summarise:

GK - Situation will remain as per until the summer when there will be a lot of soul searching. Pants` and Hart`s positions will depend on how this season pans out, but I reckon one will be gone in the close season. A chance then for Pellegrini to get his own man in. Willy to be Hart`s back up, or Casillas with Pants as back up?

LB/RB - The dream signing would be Vertonghen, who can fill the left back and centre half role. The we have the right back situation, Micah has to improve (performance and fitness) otherwise an understudy to Zabaletta is required.

CB - As above, Vertonghen. We have Demichelis and Kompany for the right side. Nastasic and Vertonghen can cover the left side.

CM - Cabaye, excellent choice. Has been quoted today as saying he wants Champs League football.

SALE - Letting Kolarov and Lescott go and replacing with one player in Vertonghen would allow hopefully the integration of Rekik into the squad. Guidetti has a chance to go out on loan which will make or break his City career. Personally, I believe if he gains any sort of success he`ll replace Dzeko who will end up at Dortmund.
Garcia, if somebody comes in must be offloaded as he is not suited to the pace of the Premiership.

Overall I believe any purchases will depend upon departures, and this will most likely happen in the summer.

This sounds too sensible to me !

Cabaye could play in Europe for us, and I think Vertonghen may be eligible too, with only playing in the Europa, but not sure on that one.
New castle will sell if the offer comes in and Vertonghen may move to play for a club who should be assured of challenging for the title, instead of a team who are challenging for top four and still trying to integrate new signings.
 
Jimfv1 said:
zandvoort blue said:
Dax777 said:
5 key issues
GK
LB
CB
CM
Sale

Can`t see us addressing the situation big time until the summer. Fine tweeking, and a little more luck with injuries will hopefully see us to a successful end to the season. Also, clubs just do not let their best players go in the January market. Money may talk, but then they have to try and get replacements in. But to summarise:

GK - Situation will remain as per until the summer when there will be a lot of soul searching. Pants` and Hart`s positions will depend on how this season pans out, but I reckon one will be gone in the close season. A chance then for Pellegrini to get his own man in. Willy to be Hart`s back up, or Casillas with Pants as back up?

LB/RB - The dream signing would be Vertonghen, who can fill the left back and centre half role. The we have the right back situation, Micah has to improve (performance and fitness) otherwise an understudy to Zabaletta is required.

CB - As above, Vertonghen. We have Demichelis and Kompany for the right side. Nastasic and Vertonghen can cover the left side.

CM - Cabaye, excellent choice. Has been quoted today as saying he wants Champs League football.

SALE - Letting Kolarov and Lescott go and replacing with one player in Vertonghen would allow hopefully the integration of Rekik into the squad. Guidetti has a chance to go out on loan which will make or break his City career. Personally, I believe if he gains any sort of success he`ll replace Dzeko who will end up at Dortmund.
Garcia, if somebody comes in must be offloaded as he is not suited to the pace of the Premiership.

Overall I believe any purchases will depend upon departures, and this will most likely happen in the summer.

This sounds too sensible to me !

Cabaye could play in Europe for us, and I think Vertonghen may be eligible too, with only playing in the Europa, but not sure on that one.
New castle will sell if the offer comes in and Vertonghen may move to play for a club who should be assured of challenging for the title, instead of a team who are challenging for top four and still trying to integrate new signings.

Levy got £30m for Berbatov, £35m for Modric and £85m for Bale, not a pray we'll get Vertonghan in January. He would be a perfect signing but we will have to pay £30m+ for him, we should of signed him when he was at Ajax.
 
MCFCDroylsdenBlue said:
Jimfv1 said:
zandvoort blue said:
Can`t see us addressing the situation big time until the summer. Fine tweeking, and a little more luck with injuries will hopefully see us to a successful end to the season. Also, clubs just do not let their best players go in the January market. Money may talk, but then they have to try and get replacements in. But to summarise:

GK - Situation will remain as per until the summer when there will be a lot of soul searching. Pants` and Hart`s positions will depend on how this season pans out, but I reckon one will be gone in the close season. A chance then for Pellegrini to get his own man in. Willy to be Hart`s back up, or Casillas with Pants as back up?

LB/RB - The dream signing would be Vertonghen, who can fill the left back and centre half role. The we have the right back situation, Micah has to improve (performance and fitness) otherwise an understudy to Zabaletta is required.

CB - As above, Vertonghen. We have Demichelis and Kompany for the right side. Nastasic and Vertonghen can cover the left side.

CM - Cabaye, excellent choice. Has been quoted today as saying he wants Champs League football.

SALE - Letting Kolarov and Lescott go and replacing with one player in Vertonghen would allow hopefully the integration of Rekik into the squad. Guidetti has a chance to go out on loan which will make or break his City career. Personally, I believe if he gains any sort of success he`ll replace Dzeko who will end up at Dortmund.
Garcia, if somebody comes in must be offloaded as he is not suited to the pace of the Premiership.

Overall I believe any purchases will depend upon departures, and this will most likely happen in the summer.

This sounds too sensible to me !

Cabaye could play in Europe for us, and I think Vertonghen may be eligible too, with only playing in the Europa, but not sure on that one.
New castle will sell if the offer comes in and Vertonghen may move to play for a club who should be assured of challenging for the title, instead of a team who are challenging for top four and still trying to integrate new signings.

Levy got £30m for Berbatov, £35m for Modric and £85m for Bale, not a pray we'll get Vertonghan in January. He would be a perfect signing but we will have to pay £30m+ for him, we should of signed him when he was at Ajax.

True, but if AVB wants to buy a striker, I can see him either having to sell a player, or maybe a swap for Dzeko ?

I think City would prefer Dzeko to go abroad, but if a deal suits both clubs then maybe we could do business with them. After all they took Adebayor from us, ....?
 
We better not buy Vertonghen for 25 or 30 million :( coz I'd be really pissed. As this guy was available for 10 million for 2 years, yet we busied ourselves with Savic and the like :(
 
Andouble said:
is Cabaye really good enough?

As cover for our main two,or as the third when more solidity is required,i don't think we'd do a great deal better as far as the balance between ability and game time is concerned.
He is also Prem proven and acclimatised.
 
J3SUS said:
Dzeko has to go IMO. Negredo makes him look average at best. Sell dzeko and bring in the Nigerian lad and/or let guidette step up.

Vidal for CM would be a good but for the money, although he would cost 35-40 m he would allow yaya important rest and would add a whole new dynamic in an already solid midfield.
No chance
 
To be the best you have to buy the best.

INS

Casillas
Juan Fran
Garay
Moreano
Xabi Alonso
Griezmann



Hart
Lescott
Richards
Kolarov
Rodwell
Dzeko



VIVA ESPANA!!!

Keep Garcia only to help the newbies settle in.
 
Dax777 said:
5 key issues
GK
LB
CB
CM
Sale

We are vulnerable at these 4 positions.
Gk: I'll take a wait and see approach, then decide in the summer.

Lb: probably a summer decision too. Kolarov is improved, but Clichy has regressed. So rather than getting an improved backup we might be needing a superior starter.

CB: if Kompany comes back healthy and plays out the season (unlikely), I'd like us to table this until the summer too. We need a starting caliber CB, I don't have one right now, but there will be enough to look at come summer.

CM: needs immediate attention. Yaya and Dihno'S are being worked to the ground. Yaya especially is too old to be played this much. But the drop off after those 2 is humongous. My choice ( Yohan Cabaye). Perfect CM to join the fold. Can play all 3 positions and is solid all round. If he is our only January signing, I'll be delighted.

Sale:
this is a bit sad for me because I'd be advocating the sale of players I have always stood up for. But practically this are the best decisions to make.
1. City does not need nor should it carry 4 strikers. Currently it does, so one has to go. Dzeko is the clear choice. Good player, wants to be the starter. Wouldn't happen here, and we have too many strikers. Time to make the decision and cut ties. Aguero, Negredo and jovetic can handle the load.
2. Garcia: unlike most, I don think he is a bad player. Don't even agree he is the worst on our squad. But if we have to improve our CM position by bringing in the non English Quota Cabaye, then another non-English guy has to go.
3. The other reason why Garcia has to go, is coz Lescott has to go too. And if Lescott has to go then Rodwell must stay..

I am not a big fan of injury prone players, but we seem to have one at every position. And that frankly is too many, and we should look at reducing the injury prone in our ranks. But that's a discussion for another day.
The only 2relatively stable positions are LB and GK. all the other position has a consistently injured player on board

I'd hope we can pick up Cabaye for relative peanuts, but I would worry he would become another Garcia type signing. Potentially very prudent if we could nab him in January, but then standing in the way of a top class centre half signing in the summer (I'd love to know what the club are doing on this front if anyone has any tidbits, because next summer I think we should be looking at a player to take over from the big man, and that means nothing short of top shelf quality required).

FWIW I don't think we'll be dipping in at all in January barring a serious injury to someone critical. If we lose Fernandinho for the season, we'll buy. If we lost Yaya for the season, we'll buy, etc. Someone to take the strain off those two would obviously be nice but as per my point above, if it stood in the way of plans next summer I'd rather just soldier on.
 
Hart
Lescott
Richards
Kolarov
Rodwell
Dzeko


If you got rid of those players, that includes 4 of the English quota.
Bringing in:

Casillas
Juan Fran
Garay
Moreano
Xabi Alonso
Griezmann

as you suggest, will add nothing to the required English players needed for the squad
 
I really don't think buying a Gk should be one of the priorities certainly not in Jan transfer window,pants is criminaly underrated by many,and as per joe he is quality and certainly deserves a chance for redemption,a quality cd along with a cmd should b our only concerns for now
 
Positions that need improving:

LB: Clichy is poor offensively, Kolarov is poor defensively so we need one who covers both bases. One of Clichy/Kolarov out. Luke Shaw, Leighton Baines or perhaps Felipe Luis in. This can probably wait until January though.

CB: Tough one, do we try for a youngster with potential (a la Nastasic) or for proven talent. I'd say we should go for a proven top class defender. Lescott out, Vertonghen/Pepe/Chiellini or someone of that ilk in.

CM: Important position this one, we really need someone who can both cover and compete with Ferna and Yaya. Garcia out, Alex Song or Cabaye in.

Also, the goalkeeper situation may require a transfer if Hart can't rediscover some good form. Also, Dzeko may have to be replaced if he moves on, same with Richards.

I'd say that the only one that needs addressing in January is CM, but a Cb wood also be useful for the rest of the season.
 

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