Javi Garcia

[NQCitizen]

Simple question to NQ. Do you think Garcia is good enough for city?

As a squad player, yes. Bring him on to protect leads or play him with a mobile partner. He's happy with that limited role and good at it.

I'm genuinely not saying he's the best in the world. Just he's not the worst in the squad and I feel he takes a lot of abuse without a fraction of the defence other players have.

 

[pudge]

So in modern football we are unable to defend a corner? This is a team game after all, if you have to give away a corner you give it away and then you defend it. I could easily analyze every goal we have conceded from a corner and should we blame the person who gave away the corner for incompetent defending?

This is your justification for Garcia's performance? I don't think I even need to continue with this.

Since you aren't arguing in good faith, probably not.

He was as I've stated previously poor in a two-man midfield. This isn't surprising nor is it new. Inventing arguments doesn't bolster that in any way.

-- Sat Jan 04, 2014 11:23 am --

That's a pathetic attempt at a dodge. You asked for an example. You were given an example. Don't try to shift the goalposts. You asked for one post blaming him for the draw. You have it. It's as you say a fact.

I'm sorry, saying he gave the ball away for the corner is a fact.

It's a little different than saying he's too blame for us not winning, in fact it's a lot different.

It was a rather pathetic example.

No, it's that once again you won't ever admit when you ask for something and it's given. Ask PMS if he blames Garcia for the draw. He obviously does. I think you know this too.

Once again?

I'm still waiting for the first.

The "giving away the ball for the corner" was a response to someone saying he only made one mistake, because it was a mistake was it not? It was not a declaration of how he was solely at fault for us not winning, which is what I'm arguing.

I'll wait a little longer if you want to give it another, viable, attempt

 

[BufordUSABlue]

Ive said this at several points this season and last but Garcia is only handy if we have a lead to protect.

He is clearly a pure DM only.

He offers absolutely nothing else.

It is pointless starting him in any game.

A poor mans NDJ if you will ...

 

[Cobwebcat]

Simple question to NQ. Do you think Garcia is good enough for city?

As a squad player, yes. Bring him on to protect leads or play him with a mobile partner. He's happy with that limited role and good at it.

I'm genuinely not saying he's the best in the world. Just he's not the worst in the squad and I feel he takes a lot of abuse without a fraction of the defence other players have.

Other than Botata who is worse?

 

[Stoned Rose]

Simple question to NQ. Do you think Garcia is good enough for city?

As a squad player, yes. Bring him on to protect leads or play him with a mobile partner. He's happy with that limited role and good at it.

I'm genuinely not saying he's the best in the world. Just he's not the worst in the squad and I feel he takes a lot of abuse without a fraction of the defence other players have.

Not saying I agree or disagree, but who do you think is the worst player in the squad?

 

[taconinja]

This is your justification for Garcia's performance? I don't think I even need to continue with this.

Since you aren't arguing in good faith, probably not.

He was as I've stated previously poor in a two-man midfield. This isn't surprising nor is it new. Inventing arguments doesn't bolster that in any way.

-- Sat Jan 04, 2014 11:23 am --

I'm sorry, saying he gave the ball away for the corner is a fact.

It's a little different than saying he's too blame for us not winning, in fact it's a lot different.

It was a rather pathetic example.

No, it's that once again you won't ever admit when you ask for something and it's given. Ask PMS if he blames Garcia for the draw. He obviously does. I think you know this too.

Once again?

I'm still waiting for the first.

It's a pattern you have. You dig in and even if a poster comes in and talks about how Garcia raped his dog and he's sure that Garcia purposely did his best to lose the match, you wouldn't accept it. Of course, you'll deny this as you do every single time and then keep demanding "proof" which you will every single time try to shift around as not actual proof. I like you, pudge, but when you dig in you do this.

You were given what you asked for. PMS at least from all appearances blames him for the draw. Why bring up the concession of a corner if not?

 

[davymcfc]

Useless in a two man midfield.

I think pellegrini needs to change his tactics to accommodate Garcia. Maybe he should play a six man midfield with no strikers.

Can do a job with an extra midfielder alongside him but not mobile enough to play in our current system.

I would have preferred to see a 5 man midfield with silva, fern, Milner, lopes and navas. Gareth Barry would have been a good choice if we hadn't loaned him out. We could put yaya or nasri in there as well if we need too. Fully fit jovetic and rodwell could possibly get in there. I don't see how Garcia would ever be the best choice for us.

 

[pudge]

Since you aren't arguing in good faith, probably not.

He was as I've stated previously poor in a two-man midfield. This isn't surprising nor is it new. Inventing arguments doesn't bolster that in any way.

-- Sat Jan 04, 2014 11:23 am --


No, it's that once again you won't ever admit when you ask for something and it's given. Ask PMS if he blames Garcia for the draw. He obviously does. I think you know this too.

Once again?

I'm still waiting for the first.

It's a pattern you have. You dig in and even if a poster comes in and talks about how Garcia raped his dog and he's sure that Garcia purposely did his best to lose the match, you wouldn't accept it. Of course, you'll deny this as you do every single time and then keep demanding "proof" which you will every single time try to shift around as not actual proof. I like you, pudge, but when you dig in you do this.

You were given what you asked for. PMS at least from all appearances blames him for the draw. Why bring up the concession of a corner if not?

See my edit.

I say I have about 5 posts in this thread before today so I'm a little confused by your accusation.

 

[taconinja]

This is your justification for Garcia's performance? I don't think I even need to continue with this.

Since you aren't arguing in good faith, probably not.

He was as I've stated previously poor in a two-man midfield. This isn't surprising nor is it new. Inventing arguments doesn't bolster that in any way.

-- Sat Jan 04, 2014 11:23 am --

I'm sorry, saying he gave the ball away for the corner is a fact.

It's a little different than saying he's too blame for us not winning, in fact it's a lot different.

It was a rather pathetic example.

No, it's that once again you won't ever admit when you ask for something and it's given. Ask PMS if he blames Garcia for the draw. He obviously does. I think you know this too.

Once again?

I'm still waiting for the first.

The "giving away the ball for the corner" was a response to someone saying he only made one mistake, because it was a mistake was it not? It was not a declaration of how he was solely at fault for us not winning, which is what I'm arguing.

I'll wait a little longer if you want to give it another, viable, attempt

Just saw your edit. Solely? That's what I mean, pudge. You never said "solely blamed Garcia." You said "blamed Garcia."<br /><br />-- Sat Jan 04, 2014 11:32 am --<br /><br />

Once again?

I'm still waiting for the first.

It's a pattern you have. You dig in and even if a poster comes in and talks about how Garcia raped his dog and he's sure that Garcia purposely did his best to lose the match, you wouldn't accept it. Of course, you'll deny this as you do every single time and then keep demanding "proof" which you will every single time try to shift around as not actual proof. I like you, pudge, but when you dig in you do this.

You were given what you asked for. PMS at least from all appearances blames him for the draw. Why bring up the concession of a corner if not?

See my edit.

I say I have about 5 posts in this thread before today so I'm a little confused by your accusation.

Not this thread, pudge, but in general. We all have patterns. You dig in. I have my patterns as well. I'm too willing to give players multiple chances and it means I'll argue their merits too long.

 

[pudge]

Since you aren't arguing in good faith, probably not.

He was as I've stated previously poor in a two-man midfield. This isn't surprising nor is it new. Inventing arguments doesn't bolster that in any way.

-- Sat Jan 04, 2014 11:23 am --


No, it's that once again you won't ever admit when you ask for something and it's given. Ask PMS if he blames Garcia for the draw. He obviously does. I think you know this too.

Once again?

I'm still waiting for the first.

The "giving away the ball for the corner" was a response to someone saying he only made one mistake, because it was a mistake was it not? It was not a declaration of how he was solely at fault for us not winning, which is what I'm arguing.

I'll wait a little longer if you want to give it another, viable, attempt

Just saw your edit. Solely? That's what I mean, pudge. You never said "solely blamed Garcia." You said "blamed Garcia."

Sorry for adding a word that doesn't change the meaning of the question.