Javi Garcia

[FantasyIreland]

Re: Javi Garcia (merged)

These stats do not interest me whatsoever. Just watch the bloke! He's crap!

Yep,people can post all the bollocks they want but it really is that simple.

Blanket exaggerations are "interesting" but factually evidenced observations are "bollocks".

The 'factual evidence' is what I witness,with my eyes...... on the pitch when I attend the games.Nothing else is of relevance to my judgement.

If Fernandinho is 'The Engine' this fella must be the flat tyre.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Re: Javi Garcia (merged)

If Fernandinho is 'The Engine' this fella must be the flat tyre.

 

[NQCitizen]

Re: Javi Garcia (merged)

Yep,people can post all the bollocks they want but it really is that simple.

Blanket exaggerations are "interesting" but factually evidenced observations are "bollocks".

The 'factual evidence' is what I witness,with my eyes...... on the pitch when I attend the games.Nothing else is of relevance to my judgement.

If Fernandinho is 'The Engine' this fella must be the flat tyre.

... that's subjective evidence unless you are an unerring collector of only quantitative evidence?

Your judgement should be informed by the facts you are presented with. That's genuinely how intelligent life on the planet learns.

Good quip though.

 

[Ray78]

Re: Javi Garcia (merged)

Benfica's supporters were genuinely sorry to see him go and no animosity was shown against the player when he signed for us. I don't value their opinion higher or lower than mine or the rest of the City supporters but it does prove he is still has his merits in our squad.

 

[Cobwebcat]

Re: Javi Garcia (merged)

Benfica's supporters were genuinely sorry to see him go and no animosity was shown against the player when he signed. I don't value their opinion higher or lower than mine or the rest of the City supporters but it does prove he is still has his merits in our squad.

I bet they wouldn't buy him back at half what we paid.

I can see the merits of this type of player but I think we have settled for third best here. Surely we tried for the likes of Lars Bender before we settled for this guy?

As for the stat that only 0.3 people go past him in a game I can only think he is so far away from the action that it doesn't count!

 

[Lancet Fluke]

Re: Javi Garcia (merged)

Blanket exaggerations are "interesting" but factually evidenced observations are "bollocks".

The 'factual evidence' is what I witness,with my eyes...... on the pitch when I attend the games.Nothing else is of relevance to my judgement.

If Fernandinho is 'The Engine' this fella must be the flat tyre.

... that's subjective evidence unless you are an unerring collector of only quantitative evidence?

Your judgement should be informed by the facts you are presented with. That's genuinely how intelligent life on the planet learns.

That's all fair enough but you learn a lot more about a player by the subjective evidence of watching him play than by the factual evidence of looking at stats.

 

[Ray78]

Re: Javi Garcia (merged)

Benfica's supporters were genuinely sorry to see him go and no animosity was shown against the player when he signed. I don't value their opinion higher or lower than mine or the rest of the City supporters but it does prove he is still has his merits in our squad.

I bet they wouldn't buy him back at half what we paid.

I can see the merits of this type of player but I think we have settled for third best here. Surely we tried for the likes of Lars Bender before we settled for this guy?

As for the stat that only 0.3 people go past him in a game I can only think he is so far away from the action that it doesn't count!

They would as they didn't completely take the piss with their value, he isn't on very high wages so if he was sold then we will recoup most of our money. Lars Bender is a very good choice but he would not settle for a squad role unlike Garcia.

 

[Lancet Fluke]

Re: Javi Garcia (merged)

Benfica's supporters were genuinely sorry to see him go and no animosity was shown against the player when he signed. I don't value their opinion higher or lower than mine or the rest of the City supporters but it does prove he is still has his merits in our squad.

I bet they wouldn't buy him back at half what we paid.

I can see the merits of this type of player but I think we have settled for third best here. Surely we tried for the likes of Lars Bender before we settled for this guy?

As for the stat that only 0.3 people go past him in a game I can only think he is so far away from the action that it doesn't count!

They would as they didn't completely take the piss with their value. Lars Bender is a very good choice but he would not settle for a squad role unlike Garcia.

You don't think 16 million was taking the piss for Garcia? Bear in mind we got Negredo for about 500k more.

 

[NQCitizen]

Re: Javi Garcia (merged)

The 'factual evidence' is what I witness,with my eyes...... on the pitch when I attend the games.Nothing else is of relevance to my judgement.

If Fernandinho is 'The Engine' this fella must be the flat tyre.

... that's subjective evidence unless you are an unerring collector of only quantitative evidence?

Your judgement should be informed by the facts you are presented with. That's genuinely how intelligent life on the planet learns.

That's all fair enough but you learn a lot more about a player by the subjective evidence of watching him play than by the factual evidence of looking at stats.

Oh that's incredibly true. But if you encounter facts that challenge your view you should definitely try and take them on board.

When I watch him I think he does his job fairly well. 7/10 maybe. Best in a three, bit slow.

Luckily the facts I encounter reinforce my subjective viewpoint.

Everyone is entitled to thier opinions but that shouldn't turn into "I say this and therefore it is fact". If there's genuinely no distinction between quantitative and qualitative data then it's a broken forum for discussion, but I believe there is.

I hope some people read those stats and think "maybe Javi isn't so bad", that their subjective opinion at least takes them into account.

 

[blueinsa]

Re: Javi Garcia (merged)

He is judged against Yaya, Fernny, Silva, Nasri and Milner and you have to feel a little for him in that not many would come out on top of that list.

Not a starter and definitely not a CB but useful on the bench for the last 15 when a game is won.