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Joe Hart [MERGED]
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Shadz69
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Good save for me unlucky where it fell but Kolarov lost Bent in the area.
Can't believe it's being called a mistake by some on here.
Can't believe it's being called a mistake by some on here.
sir malcom
Well-Known Member
it was just one of them things.............it happens fell nicely for Bent.
All keepers make mistakes. Hart needs to step up, we've heard what Mancini has said and he has to see that Given is well within his rights now to go to Mancini, say Hart's been average lately, making costly mistakes costing us points..etc. And Mancini can only keep Given here for so much longer, he wants to leave, badly.
How much longer does Mancini insist on playing a player if they're making mistakes and a better player is sitting on the bench.
So does Mancini gamble and sell/loan out Given and hope Hart starts playing like he did for that one game against Spurs, and buy in another keeper, but he wont be as good as Given, or as experienced, not one who's willing to sit on the bench so does he force Given to sit on the bench though he doesn't deserve to?
Or play Given, who, because of lack of game time is rusty, will be rusty, but a more confident and not as error prone, and a proven excellent keeper. He'd still be taking a risk though, a risk he could have avoided had Given been used in every game outside the Premiership.
But we've a problem, like it or not, make as many excuses as you want, but there's a problem.
Hart is costing us points. Irrelevant of how many he saved us..etc that's his job, if he does it goes unnoticed but when he doesn't we've a problem. That's the life of a keeper.
The defence isn't confident in front of him anymore. Each player is responsible for their own game but you can see when a player doesn't have confidence in his teammate, and that is clear.
Hart is young enough, yes, but he's not that inexperienced. He knows the game, or at least he should by now, if he doesn't in Mancini's eyes then he has no business being with us. We're looking to push for the title, and you don't win titles with an inexperienced keeper, you can have a few young players in the team but it needs a spine of experienced talented players and leaders and at the centre of that spine needs to be a good experienced keeper, there's a reason why 99% of the top teams have keepers who are in their late 20s/30s.
Hart is nearly 24 years old, age shouldn't matter. If Mancini thinks he's good enough to play for us and help us win the title, then it shouldn't be used as an excuse. It's not excuse.
The best player plays, irregardless of "potential" or "the future" and as of late, he hasn't been good enough, he needs to either step up, get rid of the cockiness that has been so costly, or Mancini needs to make a call.
Yes he has potential, but so did a lot of English keepers. Lets not have another case of Foster or Green etc on our hands.
How much longer does Mancini insist on playing a player if they're making mistakes and a better player is sitting on the bench.
So does Mancini gamble and sell/loan out Given and hope Hart starts playing like he did for that one game against Spurs, and buy in another keeper, but he wont be as good as Given, or as experienced, not one who's willing to sit on the bench so does he force Given to sit on the bench though he doesn't deserve to?
Or play Given, who, because of lack of game time is rusty, will be rusty, but a more confident and not as error prone, and a proven excellent keeper. He'd still be taking a risk though, a risk he could have avoided had Given been used in every game outside the Premiership.
But we've a problem, like it or not, make as many excuses as you want, but there's a problem.
Hart is costing us points. Irrelevant of how many he saved us..etc that's his job, if he does it goes unnoticed but when he doesn't we've a problem. That's the life of a keeper.
The defence isn't confident in front of him anymore. Each player is responsible for their own game but you can see when a player doesn't have confidence in his teammate, and that is clear.
Hart is young enough, yes, but he's not that inexperienced. He knows the game, or at least he should by now, if he doesn't in Mancini's eyes then he has no business being with us. We're looking to push for the title, and you don't win titles with an inexperienced keeper, you can have a few young players in the team but it needs a spine of experienced talented players and leaders and at the centre of that spine needs to be a good experienced keeper, there's a reason why 99% of the top teams have keepers who are in their late 20s/30s.
Hart is nearly 24 years old, age shouldn't matter. If Mancini thinks he's good enough to play for us and help us win the title, then it shouldn't be used as an excuse. It's not excuse.
The best player plays, irregardless of "potential" or "the future" and as of late, he hasn't been good enough, he needs to either step up, get rid of the cockiness that has been so costly, or Mancini needs to make a call.
Yes he has potential, but so did a lot of English keepers. Lets not have another case of Foster or Green etc on our hands.
glen quagmire
Well-Known Member
Big Joe, is a great keeper. He is not going through a bad patch, on the decline or losing form. For some reason, the defence has not been as solid the last few games, which puts him in the spotlight more. His distribution was very fast and accurate today, so no worries about him here!
glen quagmire said:Big Joe, is a great keeper. He is not going through a bad patch, on the decline or losing form. For some reason, the defence has not been as solid the last few games, which puts him in the spotlight more. His distribution was very fast and accurate today, so no worries about him here!
The defence has been so good that Hart hasn't really been needed that much, but now that the defence is being exposed like you said, we're seeing more of Hart, and more and more mistakes, and on their own, that's fine, but when they start to build up is when we have a problem.
GStar
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We had the joint top number of clean sheets in the league before today.
I've no idea why Hart's place is being called into question at all... Should we drop Silva for giving the ball away for their goal today too?
I've no idea why Hart's place is being called into question at all... Should we drop Silva for giving the ball away for their goal today too?
leighton
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Hart is undefendable for the mistakes he has made. People go on and say the amount of points he saved us. He has also cost us a hell of a lot of points this season. Dont get me wrong I have praised Hart when he has done well but then when you make mistakes like he has done it is hard to over look them. Trying to blame other players is stupid it was Harts fuck up end of it. The goal today he should of saved or tipped the ball out for a corner.
The Hart fans out there your blind faith in him wont do him any favours he had 1 good season last season. We took a huge risk in making him number 1 ahead of Shay who has been playing to a higher level than Hart has been in the last 10 years yet Mancini took the risk that may have cost us any slim chances we had of winning the title this year. Hart is not playing to the standard we need him to be he doesnt have the ability to keep focus on the game to do his job right. Yes he likes to act a clown but he needs to rid that and focus more on the game to be truely 1 of the great keepers until he does this we will continue to see preformaces like this from him.
The Hart fans out there your blind faith in him wont do him any favours he had 1 good season last season. We took a huge risk in making him number 1 ahead of Shay who has been playing to a higher level than Hart has been in the last 10 years yet Mancini took the risk that may have cost us any slim chances we had of winning the title this year. Hart is not playing to the standard we need him to be he doesnt have the ability to keep focus on the game to do his job right. Yes he likes to act a clown but he needs to rid that and focus more on the game to be truely 1 of the great keepers until he does this we will continue to see preformaces like this from him.