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We could be being on the harsh side on Hart on here yesterday we were so much better than Villa for most of the game it was untrue let down badly by the Linesman for Villa's first the free kick for the second I didn't think he was badly placed he covered the side not covered by the wall it was just a good free kick only on the 3rd goal possibly he could have been a bit faster on his line but that said maybe he expected defenders in a team which at the start of the season were favourites to win the title could cope with a Sunday morning style punt forward.
 
Has anybody Noticed that since Joe's last fuck up against cardiff until yesterday he was Miles better, he claimed crosses he was commanded his area. I have faith in Joe and believe that he'll come back better. He needs our support and I think that he was at partially fault for the 3rd along with VK and Nasty for not dealing with the long ball, and although his positioning wasn't great for the free kick and the wall was far too big but he would never have saved that. And the finger has to be pointed at Nasty for giving away the soft freekick.
 
citybluesmith said:
SuperMario's Fireworks. said:
not his fault yesterday at all.
Not even the free kick ??? Everyone in ground knew where it was going

So was he supposed to stand behind the wall unsighted and hope that everyone in the ground was right? I'm no expert but I'm guessing in those situations there's a bit of gamble and risk. You put your wall on one side and you cover the other side, then if the player is good enough to get it up and over the wall then you try your best to get across once you see its going that way.
Give him a break!

The first was offside but I bet we get more of those decisions for us than against us in a season.
The third was awful from everyone but once it was clear the defence had messed up I think he had to do what he did and 9/10 one on one occasions like that he makes himself big and blocks the ball to wild applause, on this occasion he didn't.
Geeeeez, there's probably only spurs in the league who would rather have Joe than their own keeper.
 
Freestyler said:
Apart from his shot stopping which imo he is one of the best in the world for, the rest of his game needs to improve drastically.
Have to agree, yesterday when he needlessly came rushing out and then failed to make any attempt to stop the ball was pathetic, seems to lose his concentration in matches when he has less to do and don't get me started on his distribution, probably the worst in the league
 
As keepers reach their peak much later than outfield players you can argue the Joe is still relatively young and will improve further. My feeling is his overall game has regressed and it could be that this is as good as he gets. If that is the case is his current level good enough for where we want to be?
 
Although he is clearly a great reflex shot stopper I've heard the same comment from 2 people who know about goalkeeping now - that he doesn't have an explosive take off and that is why it constantly looks like he was unlucky and got his finger tips to it; when a man of his height should have got more to it.
 
Why do we bother with walls for free kicks like yesterday.

I would put 2 tall defenders just inside either post and have Joe covering the middle of the goal.

I would have 2 people charging the shot and the rest scattered between the goal area and penalty mark.

The opposition wouldn't have a fucking clue what to do and the likes of Baines and Rooney would be negated.

Across a season we would concede less goals and wouldn't be vulnerable to Shit teams with free kick specialist stealing undeserved points from us.

Currently the concept of lining up a wall encourages the opposition to shoot.

And before anyone says bollocks, I have implemented this system before at 2 military teams I have coached and we never conceded direct from a free kick.

It might be radical, but ffs City, lets be imaginative.

Next week we have Baines to deal with and the instructions to their forwards will be sod trying to shoot, just try to win a free kick!

No doubt Nastasic will oblige.
 
MaineRoadBlue said:
Why do we bother with walls for free kicks like yesterday.

I would put 2 tall defenders just inside either post and have Joe covering the middle of the goal.

I would have 2 people charging the shot and the rest scattered between the goal area and penalty mark.

The opposition wouldn't have a fucking clue what to do and the likes of Baines and Rooney would be negated.

Across a season we would concede less goals and wouldn't be vulnerable to Shit teams with free kick specialist stealing undeserved points from us.

Currently the concept of lining up a wall encourages the opposition to shoot.

And before anyone says bollocks, I have implemented this system before at 2 military teams I have coached and we never conceded direct from a free kick.

It might be radical, but ffs City, lets be imaginative.

Next week we have Baines to deal with and the instructions to their forwards will be sod trying to shoot, just try to win a free kick!

No doubt Nastasic will oblige.
Besides playing everybody onside how many free kick specialist are in a military side?
I totaly see your point but if it worked better than the wall surly a highly paid manager would of used it in a match by now having seen it work in training?
 
Has Hart become a poor keeper over night ? Ofcourse he hasn't.
Having said that he hasn't progressed like he should have in the last 12/18 months or so.
Why that is I really don't know. But being unchallenged at club and international level, may have taken the edge off his game.
It's not long ago people on here were saying he's the best around.
Well that clearly isn't the case now. And if he's ever to get to the level of say the evergreen Gigi Buffon, Manuel Neuer or indeed the young lad from Chelsea, Courtois. Currently on loan at Athletico, and setting La Liga alight. Then Joe needs to reapply himself.
To get where we want to be we need more from Joe. Or tough decisions may need to be made.
 
MaineRoadBlue said:
Why do we bother with walls for free kicks like yesterday.

I would put 2 tall defenders just inside either post and have Joe covering the middle of the goal.

I would have 2 people charging the shot and the rest scattered between the goal area and penalty mark.

The opposition wouldn't have a fucking clue what to do and the likes of Baines and Rooney would be negated.

Across a season we would concede less goals and wouldn't be vulnerable to Shit teams with free kick specialist stealing undeserved points from us.

Currently the concept of lining up a wall encourages the opposition to shoot.

And before anyone says bollocks, I have implemented this system before at 2 military teams I have coached and we never conceded direct from a free kick.

It might be radical, but ffs City, lets be imaginative.

Next week we have Baines to deal with and the instructions to their forwards will be sod trying to shoot, just try to win a free kick!

No doubt Nastasic will oblige.


On Goals on Sunday Brad Friedel explained the reasoning behind always having a wall. I can't full remember exactly what he said but it made obvious sense.

But I will admit I also thought, like a few on here today have, is a wall really necessary. A longstanding Premier League pro gave an emphatic 'yes' so that will do for me :)
 
Wretched Vengeance said:
MaineRoadBlue said:
Why do we bother with walls for free kicks like yesterday.

I would put 2 tall defenders just inside either post and have Joe covering the middle of the goal.

I would have 2 people charging the shot and the rest scattered between the goal area and penalty mark.

The opposition wouldn't have a fucking clue what to do and the likes of Baines and Rooney would be negated.

Across a season we would concede less goals and wouldn't be vulnerable to Shit teams with free kick specialist stealing undeserved points from us.

Currently the concept of lining up a wall encourages the opposition to shoot.

And before anyone says bollocks, I have implemented this system before at 2 military teams I have coached and we never conceded direct from a free kick.

It might be radical, but ffs City, lets be imaginative.

Next week we have Baines to deal with and the instructions to their forwards will be sod trying to shoot, just try to win a free kick!

No doubt Nastasic will oblige.


On Goals on Sunday Brad Friedel explained the reasoning behind always having a wall. I can't full remember exactly what he said but it made obvious sense.

But I will admit I also thought, like a few on here today have, is a wall really necessary. A longstanding Premier League pro gave an emphatic 'yes' so that will do for me :)

He said the pace of the ball in either corner would probably beat him
 
waspish said:
Wretched Vengeance said:
MaineRoadBlue said:
Why do we bother with walls for free kicks like yesterday.

I would put 2 tall defenders just inside either post and have Joe covering the middle of the goal.

I would have 2 people charging the shot and the rest scattered between the goal area and penalty mark.

The opposition wouldn't have a fucking clue what to do and the likes of Baines and Rooney would be negated.

Across a season we would concede less goals and wouldn't be vulnerable to Shit teams with free kick specialist stealing undeserved points from us.

Currently the concept of lining up a wall encourages the opposition to shoot.

And before anyone says bollocks, I have implemented this system before at 2 military teams I have coached and we never conceded direct from a free kick.

It might be radical, but ffs City, lets be imaginative.

Next week we have Baines to deal with and the instructions to their forwards will be sod trying to shoot, just try to win a free kick!

No doubt Nastasic will oblige.


On Goals on Sunday Brad Friedel explained the reasoning behind always having a wall. I can't full remember exactly what he said but it made obvious sense.

But I will admit I also thought, like a few on here today have, is a wall really necessary. A longstanding Premier League pro gave an emphatic 'yes' so that will do for me :)

He said the pace of the ball in either corner would probably beat him

Didn't he then go on to explain the the need for a wall and explain it well? I could be wrong as I had a savage hangover.
 
vintiz said:
Well a bit superstitious joe hasn't been on top of his game after he changed his squad number from 25 to 1.

Joe hasn't been the same since he signed his name to a hair washing product. Thats the problem in my opinion, and an old Lancashire saying from years ago sums it up:

"Too Big For His Britches"

Thats were Joe Hart is right now!!
 
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