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last year big Joe was the reason we weren't embarrassed against borussia with a world class display he was shire tonight but he will know that himself leave the manager to decide what to do that's what he's paid for
 
Carver said:
Jumanji said:
He got a hand to the first and second goal. Shocking for a top flight keeper to be beaten at the near post..not once but TWICE.

But what makes me more livid is how he pathetically dove when Muller was trying to control the ball. Not when Muller tried to shoot.

Thus, he gave Muller a free piss-easy tap in.

So so so depressing.

Hart's always been suspect in the bottom corners, particularly to his right. Teams have noticed this and shoot more to these places. It's also one of Panty's strengths. Joe is in poor form and we need to take him out of the firing line for a month whilst he works on the areas where his weaknesses have been shown up. No way does he take any blame for the second goal.
He does take blame for the second goal because of how he dealt with it. Also to blame is Clichy.

That said, any time you are 1 on 1 with the keeper you should score.
 
It's going to be a tough few weeks for Joe whatever happens. There's a lot of scrutiny on him at the moment and tonight's performance is only going to see him come under more. He has to show he's mentally strong and come out the other side of this dip stronger and better otherwise it could become a monkey on his back and damage him further.
My worry is the joe hart of two seasons ago would come through this test with ease whilst the one right now, I'm not as convinced.
Personally I hope he does because there's still a top goalkeeper in there somewhere and although he's been getting stick recently for over confidence and off the field stuff I think he comes across ok and doesn't deserve half the grief he gets for it.
 
Lomas has a lob on said:
St Helens Blue (Exiled) said:
A big headed **** who needs dropping asap.fucking awful..twice beaten on near post..tosser

Unless you personally know Joe Hart, how do you know he is a " big headed **** " ???

If you do indeed know him I apologise but if your just perceiving him like I am then I think you couldn't be further from the truth.

He isn't in great form, infact he hasn't been for a while. Whilst I rate Hart I will admit his poor form is going on too long now and it is becoming a problem.

But he is an honest pro, who clearly displays how frustrated he is with himself. He is a player that looks like he cares and knows his form is an issue.

What really makes me laugh on here, is when people post comments such as " Hart needs to stop doing those shampoo adverts and concentrate on his football ".

People do realise the advert was filmed and recorded ages ago?

I get the feeling some think he re-shoots the advert on a daily basis, or they see him on TV and think, " there's Joe again poncing about in front of the mirror again, stupid twat should be concentrating on his footaball ".

The advert isn't the main issue. It is Joe's form - as we know.

However, it wasn't much fun getting up the day after the Villa game and turning on the TV to see Joe in a new Head and Shoulders advert. At least I hadn't seen this one before.

A lot of people had spent good money to support the lads at Villabut £100k a week isn't enough for some. Joe should do the decent thing and give the latest advert money to charity. Maybe it could pay for everyone's ticket going to Newcastle away in the cup.
 
Jumanji said:
Carver said:
Jumanji said:
He got a hand to the first and second goal. Shocking for a top flight keeper to be beaten at the near post..not once but TWICE.

But what makes me more livid is how he pathetically dove when Muller was trying to control the ball. Not when Muller tried to shoot.

Thus, he gave Muller a free piss-easy tap in.

So so so depressing.

Hart's always been suspect in the bottom corners, particularly to his right. Teams have noticed this and shoot more to these places. It's also one of Panty's strengths. Joe is in poor form and we need to take him out of the firing line for a month whilst he works on the areas where his weaknesses have been shown up. No way does he take any blame for the second goal.
He does take blame for the second goal because of how he dealt with it. Also to blame is Clichy.

That said, any time you are 1 on 1 with the keeper you should score.

So he doesn't take blame for the second goal.
 
MCFCHOWELL said:
Wretched Vengeance said:
MCFCHOWELL said:
Casillas isn't a trouble causer, and Fraser Forster? Fraser Forster...

Casillas isn't getting a game for Real. Why? Two managers, consecutively, have dropped him. Why?

Who would you recommend?

Mourinho dropped him because he didn't like him, shows how petty he is and Ancellotti hasn't started him because he got injured against Galatasaray.

I'd have any of Valdes, Casillas, possibly Courtois in the summer.

Mourinho had to replace him when he broke his finger last season, Lopez came in and did a fine job and Iker never regained his place.

I wouldn't have Valdes or Casillas, but Courtois on the other hand - yes! But I think Chelsea may have something to say about that.
 
Letting the first goal in killed it for us tonight! Hart has won us plenty of points since Mancini put him in. Sadly he is in poor form and costing us points and its gone on to long. Will he drop him for Saturday? I would stick with him but its time he sorted this crap out and start winning us games
 
Manchester_lalala said:
Jumanji said:
Carver said:
Hart's always been suspect in the bottom corners, particularly to his right. Teams have noticed this and shoot more to these places. It's also one of Panty's strengths. Joe is in poor form and we need to take him out of the firing line for a month whilst he works on the areas where his weaknesses have been shown up. No way does he take any blame for the second goal.
He does take blame for the second goal because of how he dealt with it. Also to blame is Clichy.

That said, any time you are 1 on 1 with the keeper you should score.

So he doesn't take blame for the second goal.
What did he do right for the 2nd goal?

Hart anticipated instead of reacting. And that gave Muller a free goal.

Even Hart has said he is trying to change that in his game by watching Casillas DVDs. Like my teacher used to say, putting the book under your pillow isn't going to input the information.
 
Joe has definitely been making some shocking errors of late and I do believe he needs to sit on the bench for a little while. I think Pants needs a chance and Joe needs a rest. Having said that I support Joe, he IS a good keeper, he's just having a bad time of it. I hope he comes through it because I want to him succeed. Of course it's not up to me, it's up to Pelligrini. If it were my decision I definitely wouldn't have him start for the next couple of matches. There are a bunch of reasons that could be causing Joe's current issues with form, but I don't think getting so much backlash and lack of support will help. Of course it's frustrating to see him fuck up. But I think it's important for people to stick by him.
 
Manchester_lalala said:
I feel sorry for hart. He's having a poor season, yep ill admit that, but he's been consistently the best keeper in the league for 3 years maybe even 4 if you count the season at Birmingham.
The pressure on him at the minute must be getting to him, every single thing he does wrong gets blown up in the media, which is also now creeping into city fans laying into him. Give the lad a break. We know how good he can be so why can't we support him. Pants isn't half the keeper joe is. Can't see this post being took very well after tonight but some city fans forget how good Joe can be.


He hasn't been the most consistent for 3-4 years!

He has been dire since we played Dorymund at home!

De Gea was twice the player Joe was last season, as was Begovic and even Cesar at times!
 
Jumanji said:
Manchester_lalala said:
Jumanji said:
He does take blame for the second goal because of how he dealt with it. Also to blame is Clichy.

That said, any time you are 1 on 1 with the keeper you should score.

So he doesn't take blame for the second goal.
What did he do right for the 2nd goal?

Hart anticipated instead of reacting. And that gave Muller a free goal.

Even Hart has said he is trying to change that in his game by watching Casillas DVDs. Like my teacher used to say, putting the book under your pillow isn't going to input the information.

What did he do wrong? You said you should score 1v1's, there's to much a keeper can do when a player goes round them. This is what I was trying to get at in my post a minute ago. City fans are even blaming him for goals like this when it wasn't his fault. But yeah, should of done better on the first and third goals, but he's not the only one to blame on a proper shit night, they should of and could of put 10 past us.
 
Raggi01 said:
Pants must come in now but we all know he probably wont.
That Muller goal reminded of a situation where Pants was similarly in against Mata in the FA Cup and he dealt with that situation brilliantly.

Now you mention it, Spot on.
If there is ever going to be a time Pants is going to get a chance it has to be now.
 
Tim of the Oak said:
Lomas has a lob on said:
St Helens Blue (Exiled) said:
A big headed **** who needs dropping asap.fucking awful..twice beaten on near post..tosser

Unless you personally know Joe Hart, how do you know he is a " big headed **** " ???

If you do indeed know him I apologise but if your just perceiving him like I am then I think you couldn't be further from the truth.

He isn't in great form, infact he hasn't been for a while. Whilst I rate Hart I will admit his poor form is going on too long now and it is becoming a problem.

But he is an honest pro, who clearly displays how frustrated he is with himself. He is a player that looks like he cares and knows his form is an issue.

What really makes me laugh on here, is when people post comments such as " Hart needs to stop doing those shampoo adverts and concentrate on his football ".

People do realise the advert was filmed and recorded ages ago?

I get the feeling some think he re-shoots the advert on a daily basis, or they see him on TV and think, " there's Joe again poncing about in front of the mirror again, stupid twat should be concentrating on his footaball ".

The advert isn't the main issue. It is Joe's form - as we know.

However, it wasn't much fun getting up the day after the Villa game and turning on the TV to see Joe in a new Head and Shoulders advert. At least I hadn't seen this one before.

A lot of people had spent good money to support the lads at Villabut £100k a week isn't enough for some. Joe should do the decent thing and give the latest advert money to charity. Maybe it could pay for everyone's ticket going to Newcastle away in the cup.

Shut up with this advert shite. Hart was bad tonight but don't blame the TV. On Sunday Lukaku won't be more confident because the opposition keeper represents head and shoulders. I've already told you this.
 
Team needs geeing up not putting down

First thing I'd say is Joe, you're in my team on Saturday

And I'd be saying to the team, I want a lot more. Don't shrink in these games. It's time Edin to put yourself on the line, or ship out. And it's time to start putting a winning run together so we can guarantee that we're in the Champions League again next season.
 
Big call to be made on joe by the manager. Will dropping him destroy his confidence even further or will it gee him up?

Hard to say without knowing hart intimately. But what I do know is that the lad is committed and intelligent.

I've seen English keepers dropped after a run of poor form who never come back properly. It's not that uncommon. I really wouldn't want that to happen.
 
ManCitizens. said:
Tim of the Oak said:
Lomas has a lob on said:
Unless you personally know Joe Hart, how do you know he is a " big headed **** " ???

If you do indeed know him I apologise but if your just perceiving him like I am then I think you couldn't be further from the truth.

He isn't in great form, infact he hasn't been for a while. Whilst I rate Hart I will admit his poor form is going on too long now and it is becoming a problem.

But he is an honest pro, who clearly displays how frustrated he is with himself. He is a player that looks like he cares and knows his form is an issue.

What really makes me laugh on here, is when people post comments such as " Hart needs to stop doing those shampoo adverts and concentrate on his football ".

People do realise the advert was filmed and recorded ages ago?

I get the feeling some think he re-shoots the advert on a daily basis, or they see him on TV and think, " there's Joe again poncing about in front of the mirror again, stupid twat should be concentrating on his footaball ".

The advert isn't the main issue. It is Joe's form - as we know.

However, it wasn't much fun getting up the day after the Villa game and turning on the TV to see Joe in a new Head and Shoulders advert. At least I hadn't seen this one before.

A lot of people had spent good money to support the lads at Villabut £100k a week isn't enough for some. Joe should do the decent thing and give the latest advert money to charity. Maybe it could pay for everyone's ticket going to Newcastle away in the cup.

Shut up with this advert shite. Hart was bad tonight but don't blame the TV. On Sunday Lukaku won't be mohre confident because the opposition keeper represents head and shoulders. I've already told you this.

I don't know which advert Pants features in? If Joe plays good luck to him but he needs to be rested, purely on form.
 
Tim of the Oak said:
ManCitizens. said:
Tim of the Oak said:
The advert isn't the main issue. It is Joe's form - as we know.

However, it wasn't much fun getting up the day after the Villa game and turning on the TV to see Joe in a new Head and Shoulders advert. At least I hadn't seen this one before.

A lot of people had spent good money to support the lads at Villabut £100k a week isn't enough for some. Joe should do the decent thing and give the latest advert money to charity. Maybe it could pay for everyone's ticket going to Newcastle away in the cup.

Shut up with this advert shite. Hart was bad tonight but don't blame the TV. On Sunday Lukaku won't be mohre confident because the opposition keeper represents head and shoulders. I've already told you this.

I don't know which advert Pants features in? If Joe plays good luck to him but he needs to be rested, purely on form.

I don't know what trophies Pants has won? I agree Hart is playing badly but your one man campaign against making money and TV adverts is laughable.
 
I have been Joes biggest critic over the years and fuck me he had a shocker. The first goal was a howler and to get beaten by Robben on the near post is a major concern. All goals were avoidable tonight. THe defending at times was shocking. 3 goals from 3 mistakes. Wrong tatics from Pelli. Over defence is a shambles while over the years under Mancini we had 1 of the strongest defences in the league. Clichy not tracking the run was terrible. We were over ran by a amazing team tonight but 3 mistakes cost us. Hart I will give him the benefit of the doubt. Look a the Stoke game recently and he was the one who won us a point. He needs to stay focused longer. We know he has everything needed to be a top class keeper he now needs to show it again,
 
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