joe hart

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I don't know why the fuck people are still sticking up for him,at the moment he is simply not fuckin good enough to play in that side.Maybe he'll be back in the future and rekindle his potential.For now he is a fuckin liability !

I wish people wouldn't call him world class,it's embarrassing .
 
simon23 said:
Complete overreaction.....

If he had saved the first it would have been described as a world class save....right in the corner and a hell of a lot of power...the third again even though it was near post it was from near in and struck exrremely well

Being used as a scapegoat by fans unablevto accept that poor tactics lost us the game....nothing said about a couple of decent saves he did make.

And as for the media...criticisms of englsnd goalkeepers is pretty standard....funny thing is is thet joe hart is probably the only truely world class player in the whole england set up ( ashley cole maybe the other)
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Neur is less than a year older, I know which one I would prefer.
 
VOOMER said:
simon23 said:
Complete overreaction.....

If he had saved the first it would have been described as a world class save....right in the corner and a hell of a lot of power...the third again even though it was near post it was from near in and struck exrremely well

Being used as a scapegoat by fans unablevto accept that poor tactics lost us the game....nothing said about a couple of decent saves he did make.

And as for the media...criticisms of englsnd goalkeepers is pretty standard....funny thing is is thet joe hart is probably the only truely world class player in the whole england set up ( ashley cole maybe the other)
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Neur is less than a year older, I know which one I would prefer.
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Ease up on the world class he has been good for us in the past but this season he has definitely gone off the boil.

His distribution , command of the box and awareness have not improved much since 2011 and I would certainly have a number of keepers in the premiership well ahead of him not only per say but on current form.

I would say Hodgy is a worried man right now looking for a replacement.

He needs to be dropped and I expect that he will be for Saturdays game and beyond.
 
Already posted my views and as I mentioned not a go at Joe but he really does not have any competition for his place and that just grows complacency.

Should we sell him? Defiantly not. Will be our Number 1 for years to come.

Should we rest him? Yes take him away from the media pressure that is building on him. If the media want to have a go at him and dissect his game let them do it whilst he is playing for England.
 
the originalkippaxman said:
Already posted my views and as I mentioned not a go at Joe but he really does not have any competition for his place and that just grows complacency.

Should we sell him? Defiantly not. Will be our Number 1 for years to come.

Should we rest him? Yes take him away from the media pressure that is building on him. If the media want to have a go at him and dissect his game let them do it whilst he is playing for England.
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I'm not sure I buy this argument. I can't think of any club that has two top quality keepers fighting for the No1 spot. Most clubs just have a No1 keeper and back up.
 
the originalkippaxman said:
Already posted my views and as I mentioned not a go at Joe but he really does not have any competition for his place and that just grows complacency.

Should we sell him? Defiantly not. Will be our Number 1 for years to come.

Should we rest him? Yes take him away from the media pressure that is building on him. If the media want to have a go at him and dissect his game let them do it whilst he is playing for England.
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Nothing to with the media , they don't pick our side but he needs to be dropped because at present and for much of this season he hasn't been at the races.

All good keepers go through form lapses and maybe he has some pressing issues off the field we don't know about.

He will come good again if he gets his mind straight but in the meantime lets give Pants sometime between the sticks he deserves it.

He could have left us in the summer but and got regular football at another club but he stuck around and doesn't whinge about it to the press at every opportunity like a few of those that have vanished and its no coincidence they are even struggling at their new clubs.
 
stony said:
the originalkippaxman said:
Already posted my views and as I mentioned not a go at Joe but he really does not have any competition for his place and that just grows complacency.

Should we sell him? Defiantly not. Will be our Number 1 for years to come.

Should we rest him? Yes take him away from the media pressure that is building on him. If the media want to have a go at him and dissect his game let them do it whilst he is playing for England.
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I'm not sure I buy this argument. I can't think of any club that has two top quality keepers fighting for the No1 spot. Most clubs just have a No1 keeper and back up.
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What does Pants have to do to prove himself?

Just askin like.
 
I do worry about that article last year where he pretty much said he doesnt listen to criticism as he knows best. The inference was that this includes criticism from the coaching staff as well.

Maybe its time he starts.

I posted a year or so ago that I could sense a bit of a bandwagon that were keen to highlight every minor mistake and I dont think he has been as bad as is being made out. But he is making it easy for critics and was shocking last night.
 
Even Joe might have agreed that he should be dropped, in the past he's given the impression he's his own worst critic. I'm not too sure now, he seems he's got too cocky. Let's give him some time out to take stock and train hard and get some confidence back. If he plays against Everton and makes more mistakes it will kill him and our team.

"All we are saying........is give Pants a chance"
 
BigJoe#1 said:
stony said:
the originalkippaxman said:
Already posted my views and as I mentioned not a go at Joe but he really does not have any competition for his place and that just grows complacency.

Should we sell him? Defiantly not. Will be our Number 1 for years to come.

Should we rest him? Yes take him away from the media pressure that is building on him. If the media want to have a go at him and dissect his game let them do it whilst he is playing for England.
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I'm not sure I buy this argument. I can't think of any club that has two top quality keepers fighting for the No1 spot. Most clubs just have a No1 keeper and back up.
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What does Pants have to do to prove himself?

Just askin like.
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Pants is one of those players who seems to get better on here the more he doesn't play. Those calling for Pants to replace Hart will be in for a shock as he is a far worse keeper. The first Bayern goal that Hart got a hand to and should have done better with Pants wouldn't have even got down in time to get a hand on it. His strength is his height so he can claim the ball from corners but low down shots he gets down like a wardrobe.
 
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