joe hart

[newenglandblue]

Joe has not been at his best in the last 12 months - costing a few goals. But then you look at the penalty save against Chelsea at Nil -Nil, the Dortmund game, and his contribution to 18 clean sheets in the league he is definitely a postiive influence on the team. Take out the Southampton game - a freak, the West Ham goal - he had just done his back in - and I think most people would look at this differently. That being said - if he hits the form of 2010-2012 I think we would all be delighted. The "giving more time to Pants" makes no sense. You have a 1st choice keeper that you stick with until you drop him completely

 

[kippaxchris]

Joe has not been at his best in the last 12 months - costing a few goals. But then you look at the penalty save against Chelsea at Nil -Nil, the Dortmund game, and his contribution to 18 clean sheets in the league he is definitely a postiive influence on the team. Take out the Southampton game - a freak, the West Ham goal - he had just done his back in - and I think most people would look at this differently. That being said - if he hits the form of 2010-2012 I think we would all be delighted. The "giving more time to Pants" makes no sense. You have a 1st choice keeper that you stick with until you drop him completely

The penalty save from the penalty that he stupidly gave away? He put the result at risk pointlessly charging out! Its not just the mistakes, he always gets beat with low shots and always gets beat at his near post from long range (so many times last season). He charges off his line when crosses come in like when we played wigan and they hit the bar for instance. Imo Panti is a better goalkeeper and is more reliable. Hart is the most over rated goalkeeper in the world out of those considered the best. But one thing he does have is that 1 world class save every match but that wont matter next season if he gets chipped and rounded as easy as he did against AC Milan and Arsenal

 

[ForzaMancini]

Joe has not been at his best in the last 12 months - costing a few goals. But then you look at the penalty save against Chelsea at Nil -Nil, the Dortmund game, and his contribution to 18 clean sheets in the league he is definitely a postiive influence on the team. Take out the Southampton game - a freak, the West Ham goal - he had just done his back in - and I think most people would look at this differently. That being said - if he hits the form of 2010-2012 I think we would all be delighted. The "giving more time to Pants" makes no sense. You have a 1st choice keeper that you stick with until you drop him completely

The penalty save from the penalty that he stupidly gave away? He put the result at risk pointlessly charging out! Its not just the mistakes, he always gets beat with low shots and always gets beat at his near post from long range (so many times last season). He charges off his line when crosses come in like when we played wigan and they hit the bar for instance. Imo Panti is a better goalkeeper and is more reliable. Hart is the most over rated goalkeeper in the world out of those considered the best. But one thing he does have is that 1 world class save every match but that wont matter next season if he gets chipped and rounded as easy as he did against AC Milan and Arsenal

I know when he gets rounded it looks bad but really, when a player is through on goal with a lot of time and space it really isn't hard to go past the keeper.
And Pantilimon's looked good but to say he is better than Hart is clearly an exaggeration.

 

[kippaxchris]

Joe has not been at his best in the last 12 months - costing a few goals. But then you look at the penalty save against Chelsea at Nil -Nil, the Dortmund game, and his contribution to 18 clean sheets in the league he is definitely a postiive influence on the team. Take out the Southampton game - a freak, the West Ham goal - he had just done his back in - and I think most people would look at this differently. That being said - if he hits the form of 2010-2012 I think we would all be delighted. The "giving more time to Pants" makes no sense. You have a 1st choice keeper that you stick with until you drop him completely

The penalty save from the penalty that he stupidly gave away? He put the result at risk pointlessly charging out! Its not just the mistakes, he always gets beat with low shots and always gets beat at his near post from long range (so many times last season). He charges off his line when crosses come in like when we played wigan and they hit the bar for instance. Imo Panti is a better goalkeeper and is more reliable. Hart is the most over rated goalkeeper in the world out of those considered the best. But one thing he does have is that 1 world class save every match but that wont matter next season if he gets chipped and rounded as easy as he did against AC Milan and Arsenal

I know when he gets rounded it looks bad but really, when a player is through on goal with a lot of time and space it really isn't hard to go past the keeper.
And Pantilimon's looked good but to say he is better than Hart is clearly an exaggeration.

Maybe so but Hart drops to the floor before they attempt to go round him El Shaarawy and Ramsey didn't even have to adjust they seen him go to ground and kept running. Few seasons ago Hart was the best i had seen in 1 on 1 situations but now he sits down. And saying Panti is better isn't an exaggeration from me as i do actually think he is a better and more reliable goalkeeper. And i also think he would have saved Watsons header :)

 

[Len Rum]

Joe has not been at his best in the last 12 months - costing a few goals. But then you look at the penalty save against Chelsea at Nil -Nil, the Dortmund game, and his contribution to 18 clean sheets in the league he is definitely a postiive influence on the team. Take out the Southampton game - a freak, the West Ham goal - he had just done his back in - and I think most people would look at this differently. That being said - if he hits the form of 2010-2012 I think we would all be delighted. The "giving more time to Pants" makes no sense. You have a 1st choice keeper that you stick with until you drop him completely

True, and that time is now.

 

[Thenumber1blue]

Joe has not been at his best in the last 12 months - costing a few goals. But then you look at the penalty save against Chelsea at Nil -Nil, the Dortmund game, and his contribution to 18 clean sheets in the league he is definitely a postiive influence on the team. Take out the Southampton game - a freak, the West Ham goal - he had just done his back in - and I think most people would look at this differently. That being said - if he hits the form of 2010-2012 I think we would all be delighted. The "giving more time to Pants" makes no sense. You have a 1st choice keeper that you stick with until you drop him completely

The penalty save from the penalty that he stupidly gave away? He put the result at risk pointlessly charging out! Its not just the mistakes, he always gets beat with low shots and always gets beat at his near post from long range (so many times last season). He charges off his line when crosses come in like when we played wigan and they hit the bar for instance. Imo Panti is a better goalkeeper and is more reliable. Hart is the most over rated goalkeeper in the world out of those considered the best. But one thing he does have is that 1 world class save every match but that wont matter next season if he gets chipped and rounded as easy as he did against AC Milan and Arsenal

I agree with all that Kippaxchris and i've been saying it for a long time.

 

[Davs 19]

Joe has not been at his best in the last 12 months - costing a few goals. But then you look at the penalty save against Chelsea at Nil -Nil, the Dortmund game, and his contribution to 18 clean sheets in the league he is definitely a postiive influence on the team. Take out the Southampton game - a freak, the West Ham goal - he had just done his back in - and I think most people would look at this differently. That being said - if he hits the form of 2010-2012 I think we would all be delighted. The "giving more time to Pants" makes no sense. You have a 1st choice keeper that you stick with until you drop him completely

True, and that time is now.

Unbelievable. Far from perfect but the best keeper in the league by a distance.

Some people don't appreciate what they've got.

 

[Phil1]

Joe has not been at his best in the last 12 months - costing a few goals. But then you look at the penalty save against Chelsea at Nil -Nil, the Dortmund game, and his contribution to 18 clean sheets in the league he is definitely a postiive influence on the team. Take out the Southampton game - a freak, the West Ham goal - he had just done his back in - and I think most people would look at this differently. That being said - if he hits the form of 2010-2012 I think we would all be delighted. The "giving more time to Pants" makes no sense. You have a 1st choice keeper that you stick with until you drop him completely

The penalty save from the penalty that he stupidly gave away? He put the result at risk pointlessly charging out! Its not just the mistakes, he always gets beat with low shots and always gets beat at his near post from long range (so many times last season). He charges off his line when crosses come in like when we played wigan and they hit the bar for instance. Imo Panti is a better goalkeeper and is more reliable. Hart is the most over rated goalkeeper in the world out of those considered the best. But one thing he does have is that 1 world class save every match but that wont matter next season if he gets chipped and rounded as easy as he did against AC Milan and Arsenal

I agree with all that Kippaxchris and i've been saying it for a long time.

The thing is he had a fairly poor season last year, I doubt there would be many disagree with that - but, if we are to be fair, that poor season came off the back of a couple of fantastic seasons where he cemented his place as his countries number one whilst putting in some sublime performances for us.
Like with a few others of our squad I'm willing to wipe the slate clean, hopefully what we had to put up with last year will turn out to be a blip and their quality will shine through....if not then its back to supporting Chelsea but I'll cross that bridge when I get to it.

 

[smithy extra]

He is England's number one, and I cannot think of a better keeper, turn your attentions to something else FFS.

 

[carlos tevez is a blue]

Pants much better in the air which gives confidence to his defenders. Hope Pellers bites the bullet and makes Pants our no. 1 keeper.

I hope you stand on a fucking plug whilst having no socks on.