ID70 said:Also, what about Rickie Lambert's horrendous error in missing an open goal from 6 yards??? Brushed over as he scored a goal, but equaly as important as any goalkeeping error but this morning he's the media darling. For me the guy should have scored a hat-trick but goalkeepers mistakes are always highlighted more.
I think you are going to have to fill me in on Joes behaviour to get in the FA Cup final team??? Support off of whom?Tim of the Oak said:BoyBlue_1985 said:grim up north said:It appears you are only as good as your last game. He was outstanding against Brazil
Yes but when you have fans claiming it was his fault we lost the FA Cup final what chance do you have of reasoning with them.
Any young keeper can have ups and downs in form and Joe has been very good for us overall. However, Joe now has a lot of experience and will know his form over the last 12 months has not been good enough.
Joe's behaviour to force his way into the FA Cup Final Team means he will no longer get the level of support he enjoyed in the past if Joe is letting in soft goals.
I agree, he's not at his best and I don't think it was clever of Mancini to lambast his players to the media. I also agree that Pants should be played more, but like others have said, Hart is still considered a young(ish) keeper who is still learning. Joe hates conceding goals, the pain is etched all over his face when he's beaten. He is a very focused and determined guy and if he can carry on progressing, he may well become the (undisputed) worlds best keeper one day.fredmont said:bluemoon risin' said:When a striker misses an easy chance, it's soon forgotten. When a keeper concedes a goal he should of saved, it's scrutinised much more on replays. Joe has recently let in a few goal he should of saved, simple as that, but i'm sure he will learn from mistakes. All top keepers make mistakes and Joe is no different. Some of you clowns really need a lie down in a dark room. Pants over Hart? Better still, let's throw Joe Hart to the lions and get Perry Suckling out of retirement!
He may have lost confidence because of the way Mancini treated him. He may be suffering because of outside influences or he may just need to be brought down to earth. Replacing him for a few games may force him to get his act together.
He is not at his best. Fact.
Your not a good WUMBenarbia said:I think management could see his dip in form and offered Wright a new deal. Expect to see him in net before too long
Ridiculous suggestion, let's see Hart replaced and put on the naughty step near Pellegrini!kenzie115 said:I see no harm in giving Pantillimon a go, he’s a very good keeper. It sounds childish but why not have a one mistake and you’re out rule? Start with Hart, and the first time he makes a howler Pantillimon replaces him for the next game, then if Pantillimon makes a blunder Hart comes back in?
bluemoon risin' said:Ridiculous suggestion, let's see Hart replaced and put on the naughty step near Pellegrini!kenzie115 said:I see no harm in giving Pantillimon a go, he’s a very good keeper. It sounds childish but why not have a one mistake and you’re out rule? Start with Hart, and the first time he makes a howler Pantillimon replaces him for the next game, then if Pantillimon makes a blunder Hart comes back in?
Care to categorise a howler over a mistake or error?kenzie115 said:bluemoon risin' said:Ridiculous suggestion, let's see Hart replaced and put on the naughty step near Pellegrini!kenzie115 said:I see no harm in giving Pantillimon a go, he’s a very good keeper. It sounds childish but why not have a one mistake and you’re out rule? Start with Hart, and the first time he makes a howler Pantillimon replaces him for the next game, then if Pantillimon makes a blunder Hart comes back in?
Care to explain why it's ridiculous or were you hoping the sarcasm would suffice?
Just re read what you wrote. How can Pellegrini rotate keepers each game for merely making a mistake? They'd be getting swapped every game, and that cannot be good for anyone.kenzie115 said:bluemoon risin' said:Ridiculous suggestion, let's see Hart replaced and put on the naughty step near Pellegrini!kenzie115 said:I see no harm in giving Pantillimon a go, he’s a very good keeper. It sounds childish but why not have a one mistake and you’re out rule? Start with Hart, and the first time he makes a howler Pantillimon replaces him for the next game, then if Pantillimon makes a blunder Hart comes back in?
Care to explain why it's ridiculous or were you hoping the sarcasm would suffice?
Gaylord du Bois said:Care to categorise a howler over a mistake or error?kenzie115 said:bluemoon risin' said:Ridiculous suggestion, let's see Hart replaced and put on the naughty step near Pellegrini!
Care to explain why it's ridiculous or were you hoping the sarcasm would suffice?
It's unworkable. The only time he'll drop a keeper is for disciplinary reasons or persistent mega bollock dropping.kenzie115 said:Gaylord du Bois said:Care to categorise a howler over a mistake or error?kenzie115 said:Care to explain why it's ridiculous or were you hoping the sarcasm would suffice?
Admittedly that would be the most difficult part of implementing the system but I guess you'd just have to leave it to Pellegrini and his coaching staff to judge. May be slightly problematic if two similar incidents for the different keepers get judged differently.
kenzie115 said:bluemoon risin' said:Ridiculous suggestion, let's see Hart replaced and put on the naughty step near Pellegrini!kenzie115 said:I see no harm in giving Pantillimon a go, he’s a very good keeper. It sounds childish but why not have a one mistake and you’re out rule? Start with Hart, and the first time he makes a howler Pantillimon replaces him for the next game, then if Pantillimon makes a blunder Hart comes back in?
Care to explain why it's ridiculous or were you hoping the sarcasm would suffice?
fredmont said:oakiecokie said:fredmont said:Does he kick out of play 80% of the time intentionally? I have wondered.
Strange that no-one has even bothered to mention,that it was indeed Joe who helped set up Englands 1st equaliser,with his delicate chipped ball out to Cleverley.
Not talking about isolated incidents. If he doesn't kick it out of play then he kicks/throws it ,at pace, to a full back who struggles to control it and becomes under immediate pressure.
Forced myself to watch utd once to see what van de sar did. Usually lumped it straight down centre field rather than Joe's diagonal out of play kicks.