joe hart

[EastStand110]

One error which led to second Cardiff goal and it wasn't even a bad one - it was a great corner and very difficult for any keeper because of the pace on it and the fact he was being obstructed. Two or three other good saves which have been overlooked. No question of dropping him at the moment in my opinion.

He was at fault for the both corners. All he needed to do was take half a step back to avoid the player. As a team we should allow an apposing player between him and our defender. Every time a ball is crossed he stays on his line anyway looking to punch which is what he would have done had he been allowed, why not catch?

I think he has made a catalogue of errors since the beginning of last season but never seems to be made to pay. Imagine if it was Dzeko, there would be 500 pages ready to string him up!

 

[cibaman]

We've switched from zonal to man marking. It might turn out to be an improvement in the longer term, but on Sunday we were a mess. The players were all over the place. Hart should have done better, but some allowance should be made for the change in system.

 

[casualdeyna]

Hart has to do better with corners, we were caught out last season and were caught out again on Sunday. He's the keeper, so it's his area and he has to command it better.

However what worries me even more than Hart is how amateur their third goal was. They didn't look like they were even going to cross it in to the box and were going to play for time in the corner, they didn't commit many men forward and just clipped it in to the box rather than drilling it in as they did for the second. Basically it was just a punt in to the area where they wouldn't commit many men and look to get men behind the ball, and it's a free header.

The whole team would get a rollocking on a Sunday league pitch for stuff like that, schoolboy stuff really, just hope it was a bad day at the office as it was basic stuff we got totally wrong, but these things happen and it isn't Hart's fault not one person in a City shirt went to win the header.

At least MP got to see this now when we have time to put it right.

 

[ONTHERUNWITHTHAKSIN]

Joe needs our support now more than any time he as been here, the media are on a witch hunt and we shouldn't buy into it.

Joe looks as though his confidence is low at the moment and he needs the support of his fans to regain it.

 

[samharris]

We've switched from zonal to man marking. It might turn out to be an improvement in the longer term, but on Sunday we were a mess. The players were all over the place. Hart should have done better, but some allowance should be made for the change in system.

Our defence wasnt the problem last year,lack of goals was.. this year we have 6 goals yet have conceeded 3.

 

[newenglandblue]

From Adrian Durham - not always agree with him and I am worried about Hart's form, but as posted earlier think we need to back him right now


The search goes on for the goalkeeper who has never made a mistake. While Manuel Pellegrini was learning harsh lessons about centre-halves (Joleon Lescott needs a better one alongside him, and Javi Garcia isn’t one) Joe Hart took all the blame on his head and shoulders for Manchester City’s defeat at Cardiff.

Firstly Cardiff’s game plan was near-perfect, so credit them for that. They never buckled even when the visitors took the lead, and in Kim Bo-Kyung and Fraizer Campbell had the two standout performers on the pitch.
With the shambles in front of him still trying to work out the difference between zonal and man-marking, Hart’s confidence took a knock. He was doing the work of three men in that box.

After being publicly undermined, almost humiliated by his club manager last season, Hart needs to be cut some slack here.

If you think Ben Foster and Fraser Forster have never made a mistake, then you’ve not watched them closely enough.

Hart is still by some distance England’s best goalkeeper. If the others work harder, then maybe they will stand a chance. We’re lucky to have a keeper who’s been an undisputed No 1 at a club that’s been winning things. Let’s look after him a bit better

 

[Eccles Blue]

From Adrian Durham - not always agree with him and I am worried about Hart's form, but as posted earlier think we need to back him right now


The search goes on for the goalkeeper who has never made a mistake. While Manuel Pellegrini was learning harsh lessons about centre-halves (Joleon Lescott needs a better one alongside him, and Javi Garcia isn’t one) Joe Hart took all the blame on his head and shoulders for Manchester City’s defeat at Cardiff.

Firstly Cardiff’s game plan was near-perfect, so credit them for that. They never buckled even when the visitors took the lead, and in Kim Bo-Kyung and Fraizer Campbell had the two standout performers on the pitch.
With the shambles in front of him still trying to work out the difference between zonal and man-marking, Hart’s confidence took a knock. He was doing the work of three men in that box.

After being publicly undermined, almost humiliated by his club manager last season, Hart needs to be cut some slack here.

If you think Ben Foster and Fraser Forster have never made a mistake, then you’ve not watched them closely enough.

Hart is still by some distance England’s best goalkeeper. If the others work harder, then maybe they will stand a chance. We’re lucky to have a keeper who’s been an undisputed No 1 at a club that’s been winning things. Let’s look after him a bit better

At last some more backing for our Joe!! Leave the lad alone, he has enough people getting at him without City fans buying into the hysteria. Joe is OUR keeper and he will be alright if only people would get off his case and support him. Whether I will be on my own or not I will be singing 'England, England's number one' on Saturday. I'm used to singing alone nowadays!! I was singing alone on Sunday: The boys in blue never give in and we fight to the end!!









(And it didn't rain!!)

 

[Davs 19]

From Adrian Durham - not always agree with him and I am worried about Hart's form, but as posted earlier think we need to back him right now


The search goes on for the goalkeeper who has never made a mistake. While Manuel Pellegrini was learning harsh lessons about centre-halves (Joleon Lescott needs a better one alongside him, and Javi Garcia isn’t one) Joe Hart took all the blame on his head and shoulders for Manchester City’s defeat at Cardiff.

Firstly Cardiff’s game plan was near-perfect, so credit them for that. They never buckled even when the visitors took the lead, and in Kim Bo-Kyung and Fraizer Campbell had the two standout performers on the pitch.
With the shambles in front of him still trying to work out the difference between zonal and man-marking, Hart’s confidence took a knock. He was doing the work of three men in that box.

After being publicly undermined, almost humiliated by his club manager last season, Hart needs to be cut some slack here.

If you think Ben Foster and Fraser Forster have never made a mistake, then you’ve not watched them closely enough.

Hart is still by some distance England’s best goalkeeper. If the others work harder, then maybe they will stand a chance. We’re lucky to have a keeper who’s been an undisputed No 1 at a club that’s been winning things. Let’s look after him a bit better

BOOM !!!

 

[Ardwick Green Blue]

I would rate Hart as a decent keeper but not top international class. The fact that he may be the best English keeper is a total irrelevance to me so unless he can start to improve his game after a long period of stagnation we will have to look for an upgrade at some stage. For me that would be at the end of this season if he shows no significant improvement.

 

[kaz7]

From Adrian Durham - not always agree with him and I am worried about Hart's form, but as posted earlier think we need to back him right now


The search goes on for the goalkeeper who has never made a mistake. While Manuel Pellegrini was learning harsh lessons about centre-halves (Joleon Lescott needs a better one alongside him, and Javi Garcia isn’t one) Joe Hart took all the blame on his head and shoulders for Manchester City’s defeat at Cardiff.

Firstly Cardiff’s game plan was near-perfect, so credit them for that. They never buckled even when the visitors took the lead, and in Kim Bo-Kyung and Fraizer Campbell had the two standout performers on the pitch.
With the shambles in front of him still trying to work out the difference between zonal and man-marking, Hart’s confidence took a knock. He was doing the work of three men in that box.

After being publicly undermined, almost humiliated by his club manager last season, Hart needs to be cut some slack here.

If you think Ben Foster and Fraser Forster have never made a mistake, then you’ve not watched them closely enough.

Hart is still by some distance England’s best goalkeeper. If the others work harder, then maybe they will stand a chance. We’re lucky to have a keeper who’s been an undisputed No 1 at a club that’s been winning things. Let’s look after him a bit better

At last some more backing for our Joe!! Leave the lad alone, he has enough people getting at him without City fans buying into the hysteria. Joe is OUR keeper and he will be alright if only people would get off his case and support him. Whether I will be on my own or not I will be singing 'England, England's number one' on Saturday. I'm used to singing alone nowadays!! I was singing alone on Sunday: The boys in blue never give in and we fight to the end!!









(And it didn't rain!!)

Go for it Eccles! I dont understand not singing at the game,when i used to go i would come away with no voice
I am sure joe will appreciate it

 

[Deepest Blue]

Both of our starting FB's are hopeless at corners. Our starting CB's were both absent (why was Nasty on bench? Start or in stAnd is place for him). Barry out of picture. Not Joe's biggest fan but scapegoating him and Garcia is ridiculous.

 

[mat]

Media using Hart as a stick to beat us with whilst sucking Teenwolf's cock. Different season, same shit.

 

[Eccles Blue]

From Adrian Durham - not always agree with him and I am worried about Hart's form, but as posted earlier think we need to back him right now


The search goes on for the goalkeeper who has never made a mistake. While Manuel Pellegrini was learning harsh lessons about centre-halves (Joleon Lescott needs a better one alongside him, and Javi Garcia isn’t one) Joe Hart took all the blame on his head and shoulders for Manchester City’s defeat at Cardiff.

Firstly Cardiff’s game plan was near-perfect, so credit them for that. They never buckled even when the visitors took the lead, and in Kim Bo-Kyung and Fraizer Campbell had the two standout performers on the pitch.
With the shambles in front of him still trying to work out the difference between zonal and man-marking, Hart’s confidence took a knock. He was doing the work of three men in that box.

After being publicly undermined, almost humiliated by his club manager last season, Hart needs to be cut some slack here.

If you think Ben Foster and Fraser Forster have never made a mistake, then you’ve not watched them closely enough.

Hart is still by some distance England’s best goalkeeper. If the others work harder, then maybe they will stand a chance. We’re lucky to have a keeper who’s been an undisputed No 1 at a club that’s been winning things. Let’s look after him a bit better

At last some more backing for our Joe!! Leave the lad alone, he has enough people getting at him without City fans buying into the hysteria. Joe is OUR keeper and he will be alright if only people would get off his case and support him. Whether I will be on my own or not I will be singing 'England, England's number one' on Saturday. I'm used to singing alone nowadays!! I was singing alone on Sunday: The boys in blue never give in and we fight to the end!!

(And it didn't rain!!)

Go for it Eccles! I dont understand not singing at the game,when i used to go i would come away with no voice
I am sure joe will appreciate it

Thank you Karen7, I will and, like you, I rarely have a voice the day after the game. For which my family are eternally grateful!!

The Boys in Blue never give in!!

 

[kara54]

The only goal I really blame Hart for is the 2nd one, when he totally misjudged the ball, and Campbell had almost an empty goal to aim at.
And that was in front of the goal.

But even the best keepers makes a fault now and then, they are human. And I think there was more pressure on him, because Vinny and Nasty were not there, Joe felt it most. Still,I'm sure he is in the Top10 of the worlds best goalkeepers.

Though, I'd give Panty a try if such faults reoccur.

 

[Deepest Blue]

True fans.

What a nice change :)

 

[Eccles Blue]

A quote from the BBC website from Roy Hodgson:


"ENGLAND SQUAD
England manager Roy Hodgson on goalkeeper Joe Hart's form: "Goalkeepers like Joe at top teams like Manchester City don't always have a lot to do. So mistakes are highlighted. I have complete faith in Joe. I'm pretty sure he'll get the right headlines again. He's a top-class goalkeeper to work with.""


Not always in agreement with Hodgson, why doesn't he pick Micah for example but in this I agree with him. Come on Joe.

 

[mcfctomlad]

Hes never been the same since Mancini slaged him of at Madrid, hopefully england drop him so then the whole country doesnt slag him off which makes his confidence drop. schmicheal said on MOTD that hes doing fine and doesnt deserve the shit hes getting. i agree get off his back and support our no.1. in my opion hes the best GK in the league and in England but with every one slagging him off no wonder hes a bag of nerves

 

[Tricky Dickys Right Foot Shot]

Funny how when Hart makes a mistake he's shit and needs dropping but when Pablo has a torrid time it's because he's covering for Garcia and no fault of his own.

Not slagging any off but these things happen the difference is 95% of the time a keeper fucks up it normally results in conceding a goal.

If anyone would be as kind to name a keeper who has been consistently world class, error free throughout their career please feel free to name them and if anyone can name me a world class keeper who has been dropped from resulting poor errors then please name them as well.


Panti will most likely play capital one cup or even FA cup games like usual..... Bottom line is if we played United/Chelsea/Spurs/Arsenal....ect I'd feel more confident with Hart in net then Pantillimon.

 

[LookIfoundmyKnob]

Funny how when Hart makes a mistake he's shit and needs dropping but when Pablo has a torrid time it's because he's covering for Garcia and no fault of his own.

Not slagging any off but these things happen the difference is 95% of the time a keeper fucks up it normally results in conceding a goal.

If anyone would be as kind to name a keeper who has been consistently world class, error free throughout their career please feel free to name them and if anyone can name me a world class keeper who has been dropped from resulting poor errors then please name them as well.


Panti will most likely play capital one cup or even FA cup games like usual..... Bottom line is if we played United/Chelsea/Spurs/Arsenal....ect I'd feel more confident with Hart in net then Pantillimon.

The difference between the two is that we don't have anyone to replace Zab. If Richards was healthy he would have been starting the next game. In Hart's case, this isn't ONE game. This has been going on for a while now, dating back to the Mancini era.

Also I might add that Steklenburg was dropped last season by Roma and eventually sold to Fulham. He's a world class keeper who's been dropped because of poor errors.

 

[Phil1]

Funny how when Hart makes a mistake he's shit and needs dropping but when Pablo has a torrid time it's because he's covering for Garcia and no fault of his own.

Not slagging any off but these things happen the difference is 95% of the time a keeper fucks up it normally results in conceding a goal.

If anyone would be as kind to name a keeper who has been consistently world class, error free throughout their career please feel free to name them and if anyone can name me a world class keeper who has been dropped from resulting poor errors then please name them as well.


Panti will most likely play capital one cup or even FA cup games like usual..... Bottom line is if we played United/Chelsea/Spurs/Arsenal....ect I'd feel more confident with Hart in net then Pantillimon.

My worry isn't that he's making the odd error but more to do with him not improving the parts of his game that need work. There's no doubt about his ability, on his game there are only a handful of other keepers in Europe that I'd rather have in front of him.
The truth is his kicking has been poor, it has for a while and I'd have hoped that there would have been a big improvement seeing as the way the games played nowadays it's an important part of a keepers locker. He's also a little slow off his line when balls are put over the top, he doesn't anticipate anywhere near quick enough and an example would have been on Sunday when Garcia headed it back and Cambell ran onto it forcing Joe to make the save. It shouldn't have happened, although not a great deal of pace on the original header I'd like Harts starting position to be a lot better giving himself the chance to collect the ball without needing to make the save.
The other thing that concerns me, and for someone of joes height it really shouldn't be happening, is his lack of authority when the balls put in the 6 yard box. When the balls between the 6 yard line and penalty spot I don't expect him to come, especially through traffic, but anywhere in the 6 yard box your goalkeeper has to take charge.
Fortunately these are things that can be improved on with plenty of work on the training ground.
By no means is he suddenly not good enough, he's having a dip in form and should be given backing at the ground to help his confidence - what we shouldn't be doing is having blind faith and not recognising that mistakes have been made.