Leroy_Blue
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Adebayor has basically invited Terry to join him at City in his post match interview today. Something perhaps Shaun and bridge should do too?
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No big signings for Chelsea so far.
Being told to commit publicly to Chelsea and then renegotiate a new contract.
Another foreign manager, 4th in 15 months with a track record for not being honest.
Apologies if this has been posted as its from 28th May. It gives us a bit of insight into Ancelotti and how he will say anything he feels is right at the time without any thoughts to future implications.
I can understand Terry being pissed off.
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/leagues/premierleague/chelsea/5396073/Carlo-Ancelottis-revelations-should-alarm-Chelsea-fans.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/footba ... -fans.html</a>
Ancelotti's autobiography seems to be very different to the usual dull tomes that issue forth from many in sport; you can count the number of interesting autobiographies on one hand.
However, though it could be viewed as laudable for Ancelotti to be candid, I am not sure he can have given even cursory thought to the way in which his revelations will reflect on him from this point forth.
Without scruple he admits to having meetings which I presume must be against the basic principles included in his manager's contract with AC Milan; utmost faith; confidentially; best endeavours and so on.
It is not certain how many meetings have taken place between Ancelotti and Chelsea's owner, Roman Abramovich. If Ancelotti is right, we know from his book that two took place last year in the run-up to Chelsea's appointment of Luiz Felipe Scolari.
In his book, Preferisco La Coppa, he writes about the Russian's great knowledge of football, his hunger to know more. At one point he alleges the pair discussed players who would help deliver the character and exciting play Abramovich felt his Chelsea lacked.
When contacted by this newspaper yesterday, a spokesman for Abramovich was unable to comment on the Ancelotti book. Thus, ascertaining the significance of the comments contained therein, beyond of course shedding a new light on the character of Chelsea's chosen successor to Guus Hiddink, is impossible.
The quotes about Ancelotti mentally coaching Chelsea over the last few weeks and taking English lessons may have been meant to show he is an obsessive man committing his all to a project.
But what does that say about his commitment to the Milan cause? His falling out with the Italian club's president, Silvio Berlusconi – himself no stranger to putting his foot in his mouth – should perhaps also ring alarm bells.
After the dignified way Guus Hiddink has conducted himself and Chelsea's team affairs since assuming temporary control from Scolari, the prospect of Ancelotti suddenly seems less alluring.
Details of the "indecent" offer he says gave him "shivers" look like bragging and his rubbishing of Jose Mourinho will not be welcomed by many fans who would gladly still see 'The Special One' in situ.
These indiscretions, in a book written so soon after the event, should fill Chelsea with apprehension.
Furthermore, if Ancelotti is correct and he did conduct such clandestine meetings with another of Europe's major clubs, what does that say about the way Chelsea are going about their business.
Whatever the truth, Chelsea should not, yet again, court and create circumstances which give fodder to those who wish the club ill, for genuine and unjustified reasons. It all looks shabby and before howls come that Chelsea have no responsibility to be whiter than their rivals; is this really true?
Although the quality of players has shielded Chelsea from the usual consequences, it is not a sign of a well-run club to have five managers in rapid succession.
It is little use looking to the Premier League to police its own; they are the equivalent of the banking regulators in aught but matters of cash. From whence then comes the upholder of standards required to lead clubs to even the first chapter of proper corporate governance?
When such things are revealed they are a boon for we press people. What ought to be considered more deeply is that they also lighten the heart of men like Sepp Blatter and Michel Platini, the presidents of Fifa and Uefa.
Further grist to their arguments before the European Union that clubs like Chelsea cannot be trusted to govern themselves
Being told to commit publicly to Chelsea and then renegotiate a new contract.
Another foreign manager, 4th in 15 months with a track record for not being honest.
Apologies if this has been posted as its from 28th May. It gives us a bit of insight into Ancelotti and how he will say anything he feels is right at the time without any thoughts to future implications.
I can understand Terry being pissed off.
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/leagues/premierleague/chelsea/5396073/Carlo-Ancelottis-revelations-should-alarm-Chelsea-fans.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/footba ... -fans.html</a>
Ancelotti's autobiography seems to be very different to the usual dull tomes that issue forth from many in sport; you can count the number of interesting autobiographies on one hand.
However, though it could be viewed as laudable for Ancelotti to be candid, I am not sure he can have given even cursory thought to the way in which his revelations will reflect on him from this point forth.
Without scruple he admits to having meetings which I presume must be against the basic principles included in his manager's contract with AC Milan; utmost faith; confidentially; best endeavours and so on.
It is not certain how many meetings have taken place between Ancelotti and Chelsea's owner, Roman Abramovich. If Ancelotti is right, we know from his book that two took place last year in the run-up to Chelsea's appointment of Luiz Felipe Scolari.
In his book, Preferisco La Coppa, he writes about the Russian's great knowledge of football, his hunger to know more. At one point he alleges the pair discussed players who would help deliver the character and exciting play Abramovich felt his Chelsea lacked.
When contacted by this newspaper yesterday, a spokesman for Abramovich was unable to comment on the Ancelotti book. Thus, ascertaining the significance of the comments contained therein, beyond of course shedding a new light on the character of Chelsea's chosen successor to Guus Hiddink, is impossible.
The quotes about Ancelotti mentally coaching Chelsea over the last few weeks and taking English lessons may have been meant to show he is an obsessive man committing his all to a project.
But what does that say about his commitment to the Milan cause? His falling out with the Italian club's president, Silvio Berlusconi – himself no stranger to putting his foot in his mouth – should perhaps also ring alarm bells.
After the dignified way Guus Hiddink has conducted himself and Chelsea's team affairs since assuming temporary control from Scolari, the prospect of Ancelotti suddenly seems less alluring.
Details of the "indecent" offer he says gave him "shivers" look like bragging and his rubbishing of Jose Mourinho will not be welcomed by many fans who would gladly still see 'The Special One' in situ.
These indiscretions, in a book written so soon after the event, should fill Chelsea with apprehension.
Furthermore, if Ancelotti is correct and he did conduct such clandestine meetings with another of Europe's major clubs, what does that say about the way Chelsea are going about their business.
Whatever the truth, Chelsea should not, yet again, court and create circumstances which give fodder to those who wish the club ill, for genuine and unjustified reasons. It all looks shabby and before howls come that Chelsea have no responsibility to be whiter than their rivals; is this really true?
Although the quality of players has shielded Chelsea from the usual consequences, it is not a sign of a well-run club to have five managers in rapid succession.
It is little use looking to the Premier League to police its own; they are the equivalent of the banking regulators in aught but matters of cash. From whence then comes the upholder of standards required to lead clubs to even the first chapter of proper corporate governance?
When such things are revealed they are a boon for we press people. What ought to be considered more deeply is that they also lighten the heart of men like Sepp Blatter and Michel Platini, the presidents of Fifa and Uefa.
Further grist to their arguments before the European Union that clubs like Chelsea cannot be trusted to govern themselves
the plasterer
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all the players talk to each other, if terry is interested bout joining us, no doubt he,d of spoken to swp and bridge already, they dont need to say it via the media
The Fixer
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Gus Hiddink didn't wait around, i know he had commitments with Russia but it makes you wonder what it's really like working under the RA empire!
HesTheKompanyVincent
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Interesting article in the Times saying that we expect so sign Toure, Lescott and Terry before the end of the transfer window.
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/manchester_city/article6727549.ece" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/ ... 727549.ece</a>
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HesTheKompanyVincent said:Interesting article in the Times saying that we expect so sign Toure, Lescott and Terry before the end of the transfer window.
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/manchester_city/article6727549.ece" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/ ... 727549.ece</a>
Could you post the article mate my comps slow tonight so taking ages to open the link.
Yep, after the certainty earlier in the week that it was over, the worm seems to be turning again...
JOHN TERRY'S SILENCE ROCKS ROMAN
JOHN TERRY is maintaining his vow of (DEAFENING) silence as splits in the Chelsea camp began to emerge.
Despite intense pressure from Chelsea's hierarchy, trying to persuade their captain to commit his future to Stamford Bridge, Terry is still refusing to offer any assurances. And that has given Manchester City major hope a deal will still be done.
Terry has already asked owner Roman Abramovich for permission to speak with City several times - but that has been rejected outright on each occasion.
The club were confident the central defender would announce he had reached a decision to stay in West London during the latest leg of their US tour, however he is still far from convinced.
City have already had several bids rejected for Terry, but they are willing to wait for their man.
City boss Mark Hughes said: "John Terry is a player not at the club, who I keep having to answer questions about.
"We made a bid for a player that was rejected and that's where we stand at this moment. I said at the beginning of the window
that ideally we would like to have all our signings in place for the start of the season.
"But if the right player is available and it takes until the end of the window to do the deal then so be it.
"You have to give each transfer deal the time it deserves. If you feel the process is not going to progress then you walk away."
Chelsea remain defiant and insist that Terry will be forced to honour the remaining three years left on his £135,000 a week contract.
Although the England captain has made it clear the issue is not financial - he has already had a verbal offer to increase his deal to £150,000 a week from Abramovich - he still wants the chance to talk to City.
Despite the delay in negotiations, City remain confident they can clinch a deal before the August 31 transfer deadline.
They will increase their offer for Terry if Chelsea indicate that they are prepared to listen to a new bid, but they are currently waiting for the defender to make his next move.
Terry has held several rounds of negotiations with Abramovich since their first meeting on July 11, as Chelsea still refuse to consider the prospect of losing their skipper.
JOHN TERRY'S SILENCE ROCKS ROMAN
JOHN TERRY is maintaining his vow of (DEAFENING) silence as splits in the Chelsea camp began to emerge.
Despite intense pressure from Chelsea's hierarchy, trying to persuade their captain to commit his future to Stamford Bridge, Terry is still refusing to offer any assurances. And that has given Manchester City major hope a deal will still be done.
Terry has already asked owner Roman Abramovich for permission to speak with City several times - but that has been rejected outright on each occasion.
The club were confident the central defender would announce he had reached a decision to stay in West London during the latest leg of their US tour, however he is still far from convinced.
City have already had several bids rejected for Terry, but they are willing to wait for their man.
City boss Mark Hughes said: "John Terry is a player not at the club, who I keep having to answer questions about.
"We made a bid for a player that was rejected and that's where we stand at this moment. I said at the beginning of the window
that ideally we would like to have all our signings in place for the start of the season.
"But if the right player is available and it takes until the end of the window to do the deal then so be it.
"You have to give each transfer deal the time it deserves. If you feel the process is not going to progress then you walk away."
Chelsea remain defiant and insist that Terry will be forced to honour the remaining three years left on his £135,000 a week contract.
Although the England captain has made it clear the issue is not financial - he has already had a verbal offer to increase his deal to £150,000 a week from Abramovich - he still wants the chance to talk to City.
Despite the delay in negotiations, City remain confident they can clinch a deal before the August 31 transfer deadline.
They will increase their offer for Terry if Chelsea indicate that they are prepared to listen to a new bid, but they are currently waiting for the defender to make his next move.
Terry has held several rounds of negotiations with Abramovich since their first meeting on July 11, as Chelsea still refuse to consider the prospect of losing their skipper.
HesTheKompanyVincent
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The Fixer said:HesTheKompanyVincent said:Interesting article in the Times saying that we expect so sign Toure, Lescott and Terry before the end of the transfer window.
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/manchester_city/article6727549.ece" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/ ... 727549.ece</a>
Could you post the article mate my comps slow tonight so taking ages to open the link.
MANCHESTER CITY have agreed personal terms with Arsenal defender Kolo Toure as the Premier League’s most affluent football club continue their assault on the English transfer market. City expect to sign Toure, Joleon Lescott and John Terry by the end of August for combined fees of around £100m.
Occasional Arsenal captain Toure has been seduced by City’s standard double-your-money offer and following a season in which he was not consistently Arsene Wenger’s first choice should be sold for around £15m. The Arab-financed club have offered Everton £20m plus England under-21 international Nedum Onuoha for Lescott, who has been attracted by the prospect of starting in his preferred central defensive position.
The assault on Terry, however, has proved the most complicated with Chelsea, acting on orders from owner Roman Abramovich, repeatedly stating he is not for sale at any price.
Indeed, Carlo Ancelotti, the Chelsea coach, made the strongest statement yet on Terry when he promised his captain would remain at Chelsea and ignore the City overtures. “For sure Terry will stay in Chelsea, we have never had a problem,†Ancelotti said. “We have to wait. You have to have trust in me.†City continue to receive strong encouragement that Terry wants the £250,000 weekly wage on offer in Manchester and are preparing to push the transfer fee beyond £40m to secure him. They are also boosted by Terry’s sustained public silence on the matter, conscious that the player’s future will remain unresolved at least until he has stated his intention to continue his career at Stamford Bridge or to move north to Eastlands.
It is understood the 28-year-old has been disappointed with the club’s failure to make top-tier reinforcements and that Abramovich did not consult him over Carlo Ancelotti’s appointment as manager. He has also complained of Chelsea’s lassitude in contacting him after City’s initial summer offer, and over having to wait a week for a meeting with Abramovich after the second.
Though Terry appears to face a difficult decision over his future, Hughes and his coaching staff remain confident he will manage to extricate himself from Chelsea — even if he is forced into requesting a transfer.
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Hmmm, it seems to be going in weekly stints. One week he is staying, the next he is not. He needs to clear this up now. Its getting stupid.
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Kolo Toure is first in triple City bidDuncan Castles
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MANCHESTER CITY have agreed personal terms with Arsenal defender Kolo Toure as the Premier League’s most affluent football club continue their assault on the English transfer market. City expect to sign Toure, Joleon Lescott and John Terry by the end of August for combined fees of around £100m.
Occasional Arsenal captain Toure has been seduced by City’s standard double-your-money offer and following a season in which he was not consistently Arsene Wenger’s first choice should be sold for around £15m. The Arab-financed club have offered Everton £20m plus England under-21 international Nedum Onuoha for Lescott, who has been attracted by the prospect of starting in his preferred central defensive position.
The assault on Terry, however, has proved the most complicated with Chelsea, acting on orders from owner Roman Abramovich, repeatedly stating he is not for sale at any price.
Indeed, Carlo Ancelotti, the Chelsea coach, made the strongest statement yet on Terry when he promised his captain would remain at Chelsea and ignore the City overtures. “For sure Terry will stay in Chelsea, we have never had a problem,†Ancelotti said. “We have to wait. You have to have trust in me.â€
City continue to receive strong encouragement that Terry wants the £250,000 weekly wage on offer in Manchester and are preparing to push the transfer fee beyond £40m to secure him. They are also boosted by Terry’s sustained public silence on the matter, conscious that the player’s future will remain unresolved at least until he has stated his intention to continue his career at Stamford Bridge or to move north to Eastlands.
It is understood the 28-year-old has been disappointed with the club’s failure to make top-tier reinforcements and that Abramovich did not consult him over Carlo Ancelotti’s appointment as manager. He has also complained of Chelsea’s lassitude in contacting him after City’s initial summer offer, and over having to wait a week for a meeting with Abramovich after the second.
Though Terry appears to face a difficult decision over his future, Hughes and his coaching staff remain confident he will manage to extricate himself from Chelsea — even if he is forced into requesting a transfer.
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MANCHESTER CITY have agreed personal terms with Arsenal defender Kolo Toure as the Premier League’s most affluent football club continue their assault on the English transfer market. City expect to sign Toure, Joleon Lescott and John Terry by the end of August for combined fees of around £100m.
Occasional Arsenal captain Toure has been seduced by City’s standard double-your-money offer and following a season in which he was not consistently Arsene Wenger’s first choice should be sold for around £15m. The Arab-financed club have offered Everton £20m plus England under-21 international Nedum Onuoha for Lescott, who has been attracted by the prospect of starting in his preferred central defensive position.
The assault on Terry, however, has proved the most complicated with Chelsea, acting on orders from owner Roman Abramovich, repeatedly stating he is not for sale at any price.
Indeed, Carlo Ancelotti, the Chelsea coach, made the strongest statement yet on Terry when he promised his captain would remain at Chelsea and ignore the City overtures. “For sure Terry will stay in Chelsea, we have never had a problem,†Ancelotti said. “We have to wait. You have to have trust in me.â€
City continue to receive strong encouragement that Terry wants the £250,000 weekly wage on offer in Manchester and are preparing to push the transfer fee beyond £40m to secure him. They are also boosted by Terry’s sustained public silence on the matter, conscious that the player’s future will remain unresolved at least until he has stated his intention to continue his career at Stamford Bridge or to move north to Eastlands.
It is understood the 28-year-old has been disappointed with the club’s failure to make top-tier reinforcements and that Abramovich did not consult him over Carlo Ancelotti’s appointment as manager. He has also complained of Chelsea’s lassitude in contacting him after City’s initial summer offer, and over having to wait a week for a meeting with Abramovich after the second.
Though Terry appears to face a difficult decision over his future, Hughes and his coaching staff remain confident he will manage to extricate himself from Chelsea — even if he is forced into requesting a transfer.
Project said:Things are beginning to hot up.
would appear so ......... I think this deal is just waiting for us and Chelsea to get back in the country
God know which way it will go though
And another one
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1202202/Terry-close-Eastlands-mega-deal-Adebayor-insists-Chelsea-skipper-join-Man-City.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... -City.html</a>
Manchester City last night edged closer to signing England and Chelsea captain John Terry for a British record transfer fee of £35million. And City's most recent signing, £25m striker Emmanuel Adebayor, said he believed Terry would follow him to Eastlands. Adebayor said: 'I think there is a big possibility John will join us.
'People didn't believe six months ago that Carlos Tevez or myself would be playing here. We have come to Manchester City to be THE big team. Why shouldn't John be persuaded to come here, too?'
New Chelsea manager Carlo Ancelotti has staked his credibility on Terry staying at Stamford Bridge and resisting the temptation to double his £135,000-a-week wages by moving to City. Terry's refusal again yesterday to commit himself publicly to Chelsea has strengthened City's confidence that he will return to England this week with an open mind, despite Chelsea trying to force him to declare his intentions.
But Ancelotti, speaking in the United States after Chelsea had defeated his former club AC Milan 2-1 with goals by Didier Drogba and £18m debutant Yuri Zhirkov, said: 'For sure, Terry will stay at Chelsea. We have never had a problem. You have to have trust in me.'
Moments later Terry left the M and T Bank Stadium in Baltimore, where Chelsea fans had displayed banners reading 'JT Captain Leader Legend' and 'JT Please Stay', without offering as much as a word about his future.
Chelsea appear confident Terry will not risk ruining his reputation as 'Mr Chelsea' by asking for a transfer, which is the only way they would allow him to leave. A source close to Chelsea owner Roman Abramovich said: 'I think he will stay.'
And Drogba, asked if he would take over as captain if Terry departed, insisted: 'He's not going to leave. He's our captain. There's only one captain.'
But City think Chelsea's attempts to force Terry into a corner could backfire and regard his failure to talk throughout the team's pre-season tour of America as a sign he wants to investigate further the prospect of moving to the north-west.
After a third and final World Football Challenge match in Dallas early tomorrow morning against Mexican side Club America, Chelsea return home with less than two weeks to go before the Community Shield against champions Manchester United.
It is unthinkable that Terry would be allowed to go into that game without having reached a decision, and the situation is expected to be resolved before Saturday's friendly at Reading.
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1202202/Terry-close-Eastlands-mega-deal-Adebayor-insists-Chelsea-skipper-join-Man-City.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... -City.html</a>
Manchester City last night edged closer to signing England and Chelsea captain John Terry for a British record transfer fee of £35million. And City's most recent signing, £25m striker Emmanuel Adebayor, said he believed Terry would follow him to Eastlands. Adebayor said: 'I think there is a big possibility John will join us.
'People didn't believe six months ago that Carlos Tevez or myself would be playing here. We have come to Manchester City to be THE big team. Why shouldn't John be persuaded to come here, too?'
New Chelsea manager Carlo Ancelotti has staked his credibility on Terry staying at Stamford Bridge and resisting the temptation to double his £135,000-a-week wages by moving to City. Terry's refusal again yesterday to commit himself publicly to Chelsea has strengthened City's confidence that he will return to England this week with an open mind, despite Chelsea trying to force him to declare his intentions.
But Ancelotti, speaking in the United States after Chelsea had defeated his former club AC Milan 2-1 with goals by Didier Drogba and £18m debutant Yuri Zhirkov, said: 'For sure, Terry will stay at Chelsea. We have never had a problem. You have to have trust in me.'
Moments later Terry left the M and T Bank Stadium in Baltimore, where Chelsea fans had displayed banners reading 'JT Captain Leader Legend' and 'JT Please Stay', without offering as much as a word about his future.
Chelsea appear confident Terry will not risk ruining his reputation as 'Mr Chelsea' by asking for a transfer, which is the only way they would allow him to leave. A source close to Chelsea owner Roman Abramovich said: 'I think he will stay.'
And Drogba, asked if he would take over as captain if Terry departed, insisted: 'He's not going to leave. He's our captain. There's only one captain.'
But City think Chelsea's attempts to force Terry into a corner could backfire and regard his failure to talk throughout the team's pre-season tour of America as a sign he wants to investigate further the prospect of moving to the north-west.
After a third and final World Football Challenge match in Dallas early tomorrow morning against Mexican side Club America, Chelsea return home with less than two weeks to go before the Community Shield against champions Manchester United.
It is unthinkable that Terry would be allowed to go into that game without having reached a decision, and the situation is expected to be resolved before Saturday's friendly at Reading.
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So things are looking up again? Not sure how much more i can take.
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Hughes stated on Tuesday that he wasn't prepared to sell Onuoha.moomba said:Hope the article is bullshit. Rather have none of them than spend £100m plus Onuoha for the three.
In fact if any of the deals include Onuoha Fi'd look elsewhere.
Manci7y said:Why do some think that when Hughes says ned is going nowhere, he isn't going, yet when ancelotti say terry isn't going people still think we will sign him?
Because the two situations are completely different.
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