Jonny Evans

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bluealf said:
Nowhere in my post do I mention the scum, it was about how bad our management team is at buying cb's but if you believe he is worth the price be it 25m or 30m then good luck to you, he is an average joe and yes to some folk the fact he is a top rag fan with a wife that works for rag tv is a huge negative, throw in the fact he is 29 going on 30, all in all it is too many negatives for me (not for everybody but for ME because I am allowed to think wtf I want)

Say what you want but people are entitled to their opinion without being told to wipe their fannies, a most irritating attempt at a put down and quite possible even out doing the Pep knows best line, both used far too often on here atm.
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Good post, so many negatives to this signing.
 
lancs blue said:
Well I assume we did our homework on the other CBs we've signed in recent years but given that it still appears to be a problem position if Vinny is missing it seems reasonable enough to be sceptical of the quality of the homework.
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The difference being we had Pellegrini involved back then who sanctioned Bony etc & now we have Pep with a different perspective & needs from his defence.

I was as shocked as everyone else when this was first mooted & thought it was just media high jinx. When I realised there was a real interest, I held off from commenting until I looked into Evans more, because to be honest I knew/know fuck all about him apart from he's an ex rag who now plays for WBA, but after researching him a bit & listening to WBA fans and what they've said and what experts have also said, my research led me to believe that as a back up defender, if we got him relatively cheap, it could be good business.

I've heard a lot of upset people going on about Txiki & Pep not knowing a good CB from a shit one, but as yet, few if any have offered alternatives in that price bracket. For £20m - £30m, can you think of any other suitable alternatives with his PL experience who we should have gone for?
 
bluealf said:
Not sure of your point with the bolded bit tbh, I maybe being a bit thick but if you meant we bought the later two because we needed to buy somebody then that was pretty much a waste of time as we hardly had a constructive game out of the pair of them.

The near 40m could have been better spent elsewhere, Bony was never going to suit our club, Delph may have had possibilities but his inability to stay fit, just like Rodwell meant he has been a flop in the end.
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My point is that if we accept that Pellegrini's last transfer window was basically Pep's first, going back to the transfer window of 2012/13 our purchases haven't been up to scratch apart from Fernandinho. Taking Pellegrini & FFP into account, do you think we'd have bought the like of Bony, Delph & been in for Evans now?

We need CB cover, but we're obviously keeping our transfer gun powder dry for an expected bid for Sanchez. However, our need and desire for Sanchez doesn't distract from the fact we need another CB with PL experience & another LB to cover Mendy, so my point about FFP is that if it didn't matter to us right now, could you see us going in for Evans regardless, or do you agree our pursuit of him is because we need CB cover, but we have one eye on FFP?
 
Len Rum said:
One Mangala
There's only one Mangala
One Mangala......ar
There's only one Mangala......ar.

( Alright it doesn't quite fit, but you get my drift).

Revisited.
One Eliaquim
There's only one Eliaquim
One Eliaquim
There's only Eliaquim.
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May I suggest this:


It even has "Bonjour Misure" in it.
 
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Dribble said:
The difference being we had Pellegrini involved back then who sanctioned Bony etc & now we have Pep with a different perspective & needs from his defence.

I was as shocked as everyone else when this was first mooted & thought it was just media high jinx. When I realised there was a real interest, I held off from commenting until I looked into Evans more, because to be honest I knew/know fuck all about him apart from he's an ex rag who now plays for WBA, but after researching him a bit & listening to WBA fans and what they've said and what experts have also said, my research led me to believe that as a back up defender, if we got him relatively cheap, it could be good business.

I've heard a lot of upset people going on about Txiki & Pep not knowing a good CB from a shit one, but as yet, few if any have offered alternatives in that price bracket. For £20m - £30m, can you think of any other suitable alternatives with his PL experience who we should have gone for?
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Sakho.
 
Dribble said:
My point is that if we accept that Pellegrini's last transfer window was basically Pep's first, going back to the transfer window of 2012/13 our purchases haven't been up to scratch apart from Fernandinho. Taking Pellegrini & FFP into account, do you think we'd have bought the like of Bony, Delph & been in for Evans now?

We need CB cover, but we're obviously keeping our transfer gun powder dry for an expected bid for Sanchez. However, our need and desire for Sanchez doesn't distract from the fact we need another CB with PL experience & another LB to cover Mendy, so my point about FFP is that if it didn't matter to us right now, could you see us going in for Evans regardless, or do you agree our pursuit of him is because we need CB cover, but we have one eye on FFP?
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Ah right, well they certainly weren't up to scratch and in signing Evans I believe they are just repeating the same mistakes again tbh, can you really imagine Evans in the left back spot for this team ? I very much doubt that will happen as Danilo will be the cover guy for both wb spots, the thing is, if like you say it is just for cover we are spending close to 25 -30m on this ageing cover and selling a player we payed 42m for what is it 10m ? Stick Mangala in at WBA and all of a sudden people will think he has improved tenfold, I understand he doesn't pass the ball as well as Pep would like but fuck me he would be the 4th choice centre half and would have come in and done a fine job defending in the one or two games needed to cover either due to injury or suspensions, we would then have saved 30m to put towards the next windows FFP total, then they could either go and buy a top youth prospect that they can trust to play 4th choice and league cup games and build a one for the next 3-4 seasons or start giving some of our own youth a few minutes here or there to see if they can actually cope with the realities of life as a pro in the premier league playing for City, for me I would imagine that Tosin next to VK would manage just fine for a game or two, he hardly looked out of place against Chelsea in that FA cup farce.
 
Dribble said:
His attitude might put some people off. Attitude is why we're jettisoning Nasri apparently. Also with Sakho being available, where's the stampede for his signature?
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Maybe it is his attitude then. Pity as whenever I've seen him play he looks an awesome defender, like a fast, athletic John Terry. Must be something I'm not seeing that's stopping him being a £70m defender!
 
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