Jose for City? (merged)

Re: My gripe with Mourinho...

i reckon mourinho would want the pretty much 85% of our players we have.

the owners/club have always got involved in his work at other clubs, it seems a city it doesn't happen, the owners/chairman take a back seat and let the manager do his thing.

he wouldn't totally reshape our team, he'd buy 3-4 top class players, that would once again take us to the next level.
 
Re: My gripe with Mourinho...

Couple of issues i have is that firstly i think the job he really wants is the rags and no matter what he did here if he came he would go there in the end. The circus that follow him around mean that it is all about him and not the club. Bizarrely i think he would only come here if we had secured CL not if we finish fifth. Also as someone else posted, what would happen when he went up the road if he really is soooo special and the best etc etc where do you go from there not exactly been settled at chavs since he went? Not for me thanks , i think Mancini could be very special for us if we grant him the time required to build not just a team for one season but for 2, 3. 4, 5 years hence.
 
Re: Jose for City?

Falastur said:
Fair enough. Next question. Who could we bring in who would build on his team, and wouldn't sell half the team, want to bring in his own players, and have us threatening to fall back out of the top 4 during the period of instability?

For that matter, how can you be sure he would win the league? I admit he may do a very good job but he's not exactly roasting Barca at Real. How do you know he wouldn't consistently come 2nd and lose cup finals? What if he finishes 3rd or 2nd in his first season, wins no trophies and wants out straight away, like at Real where he's been saying he wants to leave since November. Who do we turn to then, when we still have no trophies under our belt and we've been rejected by "the world's greatest manager"?

I would imagine somebody like sneijder and a Bale sort of player. Obviously this is just guesswork as it depends on circumstances but people would want to come play for him, much more so than Mancini. He would probably keep most of the squad, what he does well is get the absolute maximum out of players. When Mourinho has joined a club there has never been a period of instability. He has won a trophy in the first year of ever club since Porto.

Well I can't be sure, but his past record suggests that the title would be coming to Eastlands. If Mourinho was installed as manager the odds of City winning the title would be slashed, that tells you everything. Again history suggests that Mourinho is not a man that comes second and loses in cup finals. He says he wants to leave but he has been clear that he would never be in spain for long. Even in Italy he said he wanted to manage in the premiership again and manage Portugal.
 
Re: My gripe with Mourinho...

TheMidnightClaret said:
The best manager in the world without a shadow of a doubt and has won a trophy every single year he has been in management

He's not going to win one this year so your point is pretty hollow.
 
Re: Jose for City?

TheMidnightClaret said:
Falastur said:
Fair enough. Next question. Who could we bring in who would build on his team, and wouldn't sell half the team, want to bring in his own players, and have us threatening to fall back out of the top 4 during the period of instability?

I would imagine somebody like sneijder and a Bale sort of player. Obviously this is just guesswork as it depends on circumstances but people would want to come play for him, much more so than Mancini. He would probably keep most of the squad, what he does well is get the absolute maximum out of players. When Mourinho has joined a club there has never been a period of instability. He has won a trophy in the first year of ever club since Porto.

You got me wrong. I meant which MANAGER do we bring in if Mourinho ditches us because he can't win a trophy with us? Who do we turn to if Mourinho has decided we aren't good enough for him? And could we seriously expect that manager not to underperform, and then will the fans actually give him the time rather than demand Cook and Khaldoon spin the managerial turntable once more, after the second poor result/his second week in the job?
 
Re: My gripe with Mourinho...

Falastur said:
TheMidnightClaret said:
The best manager in the world without a shadow of a doubt and has won a trophy every single year he has been in management

He's not going to win one this year so your point is pretty hollow.

I bet he does.
 
Re: My gripe with Mourinho...

Jackson-ctid said:
Falastur said:
He's not going to win one this year so your point is pretty hollow.

I bet he does.

Which trophy is he going to win then? He's 5 points down on a team which has only dropped 9 points all season in the league. He has to beat that same team - which beat him 5-0 last time - to win the Copa Del Rey. And to win the Champs League he has to beat that team AGAIN, plus whoever is in the final, and let's not forget Spurs who half this board are convinced will win the Champs League solely to prevent us from qualifying in 4th.
 
Re: My gripe with Mourinho...

TheMidnightClaret said:
It's a moot point because Mourinho wouldn't come 5th. The best manager in the world without a shadow of a doubt and has won a trophy every single year he has been in management as well winning 3 european cups. It would be a hard job for the next manager to step into after he left but by then City would be attracting the top players and challenging in honours for everything.

Alsi I presume the Barca game you refer to was the 5-0 defeat. Barca at that time were playing at an unreal level and have since lost abit of that edge. I think Mourinho will do them over 2 legs in the semi-final. Also that game Mourinho seemed almost resigned to losing. He had only been manager a few months and wasn't yet ready to try out his defensive/ counter attacking system. The next four meetings will be completely dfifferent and tactically Madrid will be better than them. Bear in mind that Messi has never scored against a Mourinho managed team either.

There's so much wrong with that paragraph it's unreal!

1) The fact that Barca were playing at an 'unreal level' doesn't justify a 5-0 defeat. He lost massively despite mass spending; something Mancini would be castrated for on here.

2) Replace 'Mourinho' with 'Mancini' in that paragraph and consider how much slack you're giving him compared to how quickly our fans have slated Bobby for not winning everything going.

3) "The next four meetings will be completely different". Wishful thinking...you might have Mourinho down as being a miracle worker but he isn't.

4) Messi scoring is totally irrelevant. If your point is Mourinho would be the perfect candidate for City (which I assume it is) then the only chance we have of playing against Messi is if we draw Barca in the CL, in which case we will most likely be destroyed, Messi or no Messi, like any other team in europe would be.

Grow up, take the Mourinho-tinted specs off and get behind a very good manager before he is forced out and we end up with Ian fucking Holloway.
 
Re: My gripe with Mourinho...

Garry.Cook said:
TheMidnightClaret said:
It's a moot point because Mourinho wouldn't come 5th. The best manager in the world without a shadow of a doubt and has won a trophy every single year he has been in management as well winning 3 european cups. It would be a hard job for the next manager to step into after he left but by then City would be attracting the top players and challenging in honours for everything.

Alsi I presume the Barca game you refer to was the 5-0 defeat. Barca at that time were playing at an unreal level and have since lost abit of that edge. I think Mourinho will do them over 2 legs in the semi-final. Also that game Mourinho seemed almost resigned to losing. He had only been manager a few months and wasn't yet ready to try out his defensive/ counter attacking system. The next four meetings will be completely dfifferent and tactically Madrid will be better than them. Bear in mind that Messi has never scored against a Mourinho managed team either.

There's so much wrong with that paragraph it's unreal!

1) The fact that Barca were playing at an 'unreal level' doesn't justify a 5-0 defeat. He lost massively despite mass spending; something Mancini would be castrated for on here.

2) Replace 'Mourinho' with 'Mancini' in that paragraph and consider how much slack you're giving him compared to how quickly our fans have slated Bobby for not winning everything going.

3) "The next four meetings will be completely different". Wishful thinking...you might have Mourinho down as being a miracle worker but he isn't.

4) Messi scoring is totally irrelevant. If your point is Mourinho would be the perfect candidate for City (which I assume it is) then the only chance we have of playing against Messi is if we draw Barca in the CL, in which case we will most likely be destroyed, Messi or no Messi, like any other team in europe would be.

Grow up, take the Mourinho-tinted specs off and get behind a very good manager before he is forced out and we end up with Ian fucking Holloway.


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