Josko Gvardiol

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GX Blue said:
It’s 9am. Have you slept wrong?
If you think slide tackles is the way to go when it comes to the art of defending we should stop this awful back and forth.
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How many times have Ruben or Kompany saved our arse with a great slide tackle?
 
MarsLlama said:
How many times have Ruben or Kompany saved our arse with a great slide tackle?
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As somebody whose own level was risible at best, but who's been watching the game closely for more than fifty years… if I can make a modest remark. I think you're at cross purposes, but you're both making valid remarks.
As a final recourse, the slide tackle when timed well is an excellent weapon for a defender to have in his arsenal. But it should be a final recourse. Aymeric's an intelligent defender, but in my opinion, he doesn't have it. His timing is slightly out when he tries it (and he doesn't like being forced into it — for Vin, it was meat and drink). So he either gets completely skinned, or he gives away a free kick in a dangerous area. And gets carded for his pains.
Now take the case of Tony Book. You very rarely saw him make a slide tackle. I'm not sure I ever saw him make a slide tackle. What he was brilliant at — one of the best — was jockeying his winger into slowing down — close enough so that his opponent would feel crowded, but far enough away that it would be very difficult to skin him — so that ultimately Skip would allow his defence to get back in shape, and the attacking player would be intimidated into playing the ball inside.
A great defender's got to have it all in his armoury. Starting with positional awareness, and that means a more-or-less 360° grasp of what's going on around him.
 
GX Blue said:
Just out of interest, do you really think I mean defenders should never ever slide tackle? Actually scratch that. Let’s move on. This is not an enjoyable conversation for either of us.
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Well it's what you said, so yeah of course that's what I think you mean.

I said often it's the best way to stop a forward - your response was that that's false. Which is nonsense.
 
A highlihgts vid of a defender is always gonna show more tackles, than jockeying and just marshall a player. Its an actions vid, holding off your man is good but doesnt look cool.
 
Coljj said:
This vid analyses his play style instead of being a 'Best bits, CrUnCHinG taCKLes' reel...

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Not sure about this guy. I suppose it might have been mentioned already, but he does make a lot of slide tackles. I'm sure it's been pointed out, but maybe not, that slide tackles are the hiding place for inadequate defenders.......
 
The slide tackle isn't the issue. Jumping on players in the penalty box is. Has to cut that out for starters.
 
Coljj said:
This vid analyses his play style instead of being a 'Best bits, CrUnCHinG taCKLes' reel...

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He is Generalissimo with ball skills. I know some won't like that. But for those of us who loved Generalissimo when he was here, this would be Epic!

I'm here for it :)
 
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