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Juan Mata (Merged)
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Re: Juan Mata is a must
Dax
You seem to have fallen in love with Mata ....lol. Now as you know and have known for the last 3 months I have banged on about this guy to anyone whomwas willing to read my posts. Matt the Giant will vouch for me on this as he is also of the same opinion as me. You said he was a good player but not great. Well I'm telling you this my learned friend:) this guy is probably the best signing the club could make this window and you now appear to be of that opinion as well. I know you want Pastore but TBH I think for the price they are asking and his age and experience Mata is a better proposition.
Can I assume you have the same desire as me that the club go all out to get him?
Dax
You seem to have fallen in love with Mata ....lol. Now as you know and have known for the last 3 months I have banged on about this guy to anyone whomwas willing to read my posts. Matt the Giant will vouch for me on this as he is also of the same opinion as me. You said he was a good player but not great. Well I'm telling you this my learned friend:) this guy is probably the best signing the club could make this window and you now appear to be of that opinion as well. I know you want Pastore but TBH I think for the price they are asking and his age and experience Mata is a better proposition.
Can I assume you have the same desire as me that the club go all out to get him?
Re: Juan Mata is a must
Like Obama, Yes you can! :)
And I don't need Matt to vouch for you either, I was here and read it my damned self :P
Anyway, I see Pastore as a fantasy, so in getting down to reality, Mata seems not only a potential star, but one we have a great shot of getting. So we need to go in fast and hard and get this thing done.
Not to mention this is in line with my view that we need more Spanish technique on our squad. But to be honest, I'd rather have Santi Carzola by an inch, over Mata. But he doesn't seem to be a target for anyone, so Mata is the man then.
Mad 4 It said:Dax
You seem to have fallen in love with Mata ....lol. Now as you know and have known for the last 3 months I have banged on about this guy to anyone whomwas willing to read my posts. Matt the Giant will vouch for me on this as he is also of the same opinion as me. You said he was a good player but not great. Well I'm telling you this my learned friend:) this guy is probably the best signing the club could make this window and you now appear to be of that opinion as well. I know you want Pastore but TBH I think for the price they are asking and his age and experience Mata is a better proposition.
Can I assume you have the same desire as me that the club go all out to get him?
Like Obama, Yes you can! :)
And I don't need Matt to vouch for you either, I was here and read it my damned self :P
Anyway, I see Pastore as a fantasy, so in getting down to reality, Mata seems not only a potential star, but one we have a great shot of getting. So we need to go in fast and hard and get this thing done.
Not to mention this is in line with my view that we need more Spanish technique on our squad. But to be honest, I'd rather have Santi Carzola by an inch, over Mata. But he doesn't seem to be a target for anyone, so Mata is the man then.
citizens_1976
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Re: Juan Mata is a must
Very good player, as I said before he's a class player who keeps the ball very well. He would actually be a better signing with Silva here because he knows what to do with a ball.
Soon changed your tune Dax.
Very good player, as I said before he's a class player who keeps the ball very well. He would actually be a better signing with Silva here because he knows what to do with a ball.
Soon changed your tune Dax.
Re: Juan Mata is a must
Last month I stated he has yet to wow me with a dominant game. Always looked a good player but never dominant. That opinion is relatively the same. But his consistency is becoming undeniable. A consistently good player is really a great player in the making, And that might be Mata. No doubt TheSituation disagrees.
I don't have a tune. Just follow the facts. If the facts change, I change. I am not an ideologue, just an observer. My observations, and research of his past work, and present viewing of his present work, has led to my inevitable conclusion.citizens_1976 said:Very good player, as I said before he's a class player who keeps the ball very well. He would actually be a better signing with Silva here because he knows what to do with a ball.
Soon changed your tune Dax.
Last month I stated he has yet to wow me with a dominant game. Always looked a good player but never dominant. That opinion is relatively the same. But his consistency is becoming undeniable. A consistently good player is really a great player in the making, And that might be Mata. No doubt TheSituation disagrees.
Re: Juan Mata is a must
Even Hummels over the season, doesn't seem to rate that much higher than Lescott. he is a 7.0 on average, Better ballskills and Concentration though. That might be noteworthy difference though. As we need better play from the back.
Right now there are more impressive CD's like Badstuber who was fantastic in the CL (CL experience). Phillip Wollshield who was probably the best CD that last half of the season in Germany. And his average rating rose significantly as he became a starter.. Andrea Rannochia at Inter is another fantastic youngster, Dejan Lovren is one of my absolute favourites, and apparently their is an article that chronicles how Zappatta is the perfect teammate for Kompany at CD by using the stats from last season.
So, I don't think I'll be joining the Subotic train anytime soon. But I am on board with Mata.
Ah! I was going to talk to you about that. Subotic's after the season has shown to be at best an average defender. His game ratings over the whole season was a 6.79, which is not bad, but not great either. To compare, Lescott's (a player we both don't think is good enough) was a 6.93. Actually higher than Subotic's. I kinda sensed this from watching him, he makes mistakes. But also apparently one of his weaknesses is defending aeriel balls! That was a shock to me. But that is the analysis on him.Mad 4 It said:Dax
Can I now tempt you with Subotic :)
Even Hummels over the season, doesn't seem to rate that much higher than Lescott. he is a 7.0 on average, Better ballskills and Concentration though. That might be noteworthy difference though. As we need better play from the back.
Right now there are more impressive CD's like Badstuber who was fantastic in the CL (CL experience). Phillip Wollshield who was probably the best CD that last half of the season in Germany. And his average rating rose significantly as he became a starter.. Andrea Rannochia at Inter is another fantastic youngster, Dejan Lovren is one of my absolute favourites, and apparently their is an article that chronicles how Zappatta is the perfect teammate for Kompany at CD by using the stats from last season.
So, I don't think I'll be joining the Subotic train anytime soon. But I am on board with Mata.
Freestyler
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After watching him the last few games alot very carefully, i'm excited about this lad.
It may only be the under-21's but Spain are a very strong talented side and they have alot of quality, but Mata has just stood out a mile every single game they have played and pretty much orchestrated their play.
I see him more of an Iniesta than Silva, the way he plays the game.
After watching him the last few games alot very carefully, i'm excited about this lad.
It may only be the under-21's but Spain are a very strong talented side and they have alot of quality, but Mata has just stood out a mile every single game they have played and pretty much orchestrated their play.
I see him more of an Iniesta than Silva, the way he plays the game.
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Re: Juan Mata is a must
If we know about him, they know about him. Undoubtedly we'll have scouts at the U21's as well. Whether or not we go for him.. one can only hope.
Mad 4 It said:I will be extremely disappointed if the club are not in for this guy, even more so than the Sanchez deal not happening!
If we know about him, they know about him. Undoubtedly we'll have scouts at the U21's as well. Whether or not we go for him.. one can only hope.
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Scouting who ? Mata!!!
Don`t our scouts watched the Spanish League ??? He is one of the top 5 Spanish midfielders in La Liga and everybody knows his talent.
MCFC-alan88 said:Mad 4 It said:I will be extremely disappointed if the club are not in for this guy, even more so than the Sanchez deal not happening!
If we know about him, they know about him. Undoubtedly we'll have scouts at the U21's as well. Whether or not we go for him.. one can only hope.
Scouting who ? Mata!!!
Don`t our scouts watched the Spanish League ??? He is one of the top 5 Spanish midfielders in La Liga and everybody knows his talent.
MCFC-alan88
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Re: Juan Mata is a must
Who said, that all scouts do is scout? they'll form reports on his performance also, probably the same scouts that are in Spain for us.
Tevez City said:MCFC-alan88 said:Mad 4 It said:I will be extremely disappointed if the club are not in for this guy, even more so than the Sanchez deal not happening!
If we know about him, they know about him. Undoubtedly we'll have scouts at the U21's as well. Whether or not we go for him.. one can only hope.
Scouting who ? Mata!!!
Don`t our scouts watched the Spanish League ??? He is one of the top 5 Spanish midfielders in La Liga and everybody knows his talent.
Who said, that all scouts do is scout? they'll form reports on his performance also, probably the same scouts that are in Spain for us.
HellasLEAF
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just watched Ukraine vs Spain. Mata was the best player on the pitch. 2 goals as well.
just watched Ukraine vs Spain. Mata was the best player on the pitch. 2 goals as well.
Re: Juan Mata is a must
Has there been a match in which he wasn't? That is the one I am waiting for :)HellasLEAF said:just watched Ukraine vs Spain. Mata was the best player on the pitch. 2 goals as well.
Matt the Giant
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Re: Juan Mata is a must
The real shocker is Spain managed to score a goal tonight Mata had nothing to do with. :)
Dax777 said:Has there been a match in which he wasn't? That is the one I am waiting for :)HellasLEAF said:just watched Ukraine vs Spain. Mata was the best player on the pitch. 2 goals as well.
The real shocker is Spain managed to score a goal tonight Mata had nothing to do with. :)
Lancet Fluke
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Would it be fair to say that you are anti Mata?
TheSituation said:Mata has quickly become one of the most overrated players in world football. He's nowhere near as good as some of the people on this site would have you believe.
Would it be fair to say that you are anti Mata?
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Re: Juan Mata is a must
*applause*Lancet Fluke said:TheSituation said:Mata has quickly become one of the most overrated players in world football. He's nowhere near as good as some of the people on this site would have you believe.
Would it be fair to say that you are anti Mata?
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Edit: antimata +1, didn't catch that :O :)
Exactly my thoughts.Lancet Fluke said:TheSituation said:Mata has quickly become one of the most overrated players in world football. He's nowhere near as good as some of the people on this site would have you believe.
Would it be fair to say that you are anti Mata?
Edit: antimata +1, didn't catch that :O :)
Re: Juan Mata is a must
This guy thinks he's the Oracle
Lancet Fluke said:TheSituation said:Mata has quickly become one of the most overrated players in world football. He's nowhere near as good as some of the people on this site would have you believe.
Would it be fair to say that you are anti Mata?
This guy thinks he's the Oracle