Kamala Harris

[ChicagoBlue]

I'm happy to let the voters decide. I'm not the one on a high horse pissing on the crowd and calling it rain.

It doesn’t matter who wants what, the voters WILL, albeit not necessarily the majority of them.

There are no concerns with Trump and Democracy. Period.

Simply not true. The words came out of his own mouth and are printed by his backers in their post-election manifesto.

If you don't like him, don't vote for him. That's more than a fair position.

Oh, thank you.

There was a coup. You have to be trying hard not to see it. Pelosi herself said Biden isn't talking to her. He repeated many times he is not withdrawing. He was pushed out period.

It was his decision to make. They made clear support was not only eroding, but eroding wuickly amongst both donors and political friends. How does one run a campaign without money and surrogates. Joe knew he was toast and did the right thing, even if grudgingly.

They r are all complicit in the obvious cover up of his decline if nothing else. Like I say, they'll do anything to save democracy. Including kill it while they are saving it.

Would you like to talk about Ronnie Raygun?!

The President is protected and the checks and balances are designed to protect the country FROM him, if necessary. Managing him, just as it was clear Trump ended up needing managing, is often the norm.

It’s hilarious yo watch RWNJs suddenly concerned that Biden was “pushed out” when they’ve tried to push him out for 4 years and even tried not to let him in in the first place!

The crocodile tears are awfully salty

Now feel free to go ahead and vote for Kamala. But miss me with the pretense.

If I knew (or cared) what that meant…but thank you for letting me use my vote how I’d like!

I'm not concerned. Simply pointing out the hypocrisy. Just like I did 4 years ago when the people who thought Trump was in mental decline were happy to vote for the one guy who was in a worse state and lied about as much as Trump.

Biden was never and will never be in a worse mental state than Trump. He has certainly visibly declined and is physically frail, but that says nothing about the mind.

It's the hypocrisy!!!! Just vote who you want to vote for and stop pretending you stand on some moral high ground. Your don't.

It’s not hard to find moral high ground in the cesspit that surrounds Trump, once again, thank you for deigning to let me vote for whomever I choose. SO gracious.

Everyone? You mean bluemoon? A grossly unrepresentative thread mostly populated by people in foreign countries? Yeah, I'm really worried about what the English think about America. Really worried. Lol

It’s not just one country, it’s the large group of nations which support each other in an effort to keep a semblance of normalcy in the world. That “everyone!”

Yeah yeah yeah we get it. You are good at insults. Here's a cookie.

Thanks, Grandpa! Can I get a pat on the head, too?

There are no existential threats. Period. Just 2 parties with 2 candidates. The only 2 likely to win.

The rest is just hogwash.

Complete nonsense. The threat is real. America’s standing in the world is real. Trump’s willingness to promote appeasement of strongmen and give up large chunks of the free world to autocrats he thinks will befriend him or provide personal economic gain IS an existential threat.

Just because you’re blind to it, doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist.

Again, we get it. You are good at throwing insults. I already have you your cookie.

So many cookies! You spoil me.

But pray tell, how exactly is Trump going to threaten Democracy?

Use your own ears and eyes.

What is he gonna do exactly?

It’s the “exactly” that’s the scary part!
No-one is quite sure, because he’s unhinged and hasn’t revealed what his handlers want, but Project 2025 is a good start…expansion of Presidential powers and the elimination of Government departments like Education is a nice, simple, easy to understand part!

Go ahead, elaborate for the seemingly intelligent morons you've been schooling all your life.

That’s where the “moron” part comes in…slow learners who are very hard to teach, because they simply don’t understand the basics.

How would Trump in 2028 subvert democracy if he wins in 2024?

Let me get out my crystal ball. Oh wait, let me just get out a recent history book!

Like I said, let's party. I'm here all day. :)

I was hoping you’d at least bring a treat. Oh wait, you did…the dip!

Cookie, please!

 

[ChicagoBlue]

Okay, please quote me the FULL context of his demanding a "riot" on 'J6'. Not in isolation like when MSM takes his "bloodbath" statement and uses the phrase far from where he used the term.

As for "forging certificates", can you show me where Trump asked for this to be done? Thanks.

Now, bearing in mind, I do not like either of the extremely poor candidates on show, what I won't allow is one side of the battle pretending it is 'above the fray' in the political system. In fact, I daresay the Dems are showing good signs of what it does in other countries for political suppression of opponents.

I guess the terms “criminal conspiracy” and “handlers” are missed on you!

How many of his inner circle were indicted, convicted and pardoned…or have simply not gone to trial yet?

How many J6 rioters have been convicted? Was it for just having a nice day out visiting the Capitol? And, what has Trump vowed to do for them, if elected?

It’s funny watching you demand full transcripts of actions and context, while you take things out of context, embrace pedantry and demand detailed answers about future actions! Just take a look at WHAT HAS ALREADY OCCURRED and tell us this sociopath is a righteous man with the progress of the American experiment as his guiding principle!

He is a crook. A con man. A grifter. A rapist. A wannabee incestuous father (Ivanka) and pedo (beauty pageant!). That trophy daughter, the one he wants to fuck, has virtually disowned him. His wife openly ignores him in public, bats away his hand, rolls her eyes, and fake smiles when he looks at her…but then what else would one do when your husband bangs a porn star for $130,000 while you’re pregnant with his child?! He’s a convicted felon 34 times over…and counting. A racist. A slum lord…and I haven’t even got to his POLITICAL FAILINGS yet!!

He thinks tariffs are paid by China and collected by the U.S. Govt, reaping us billions and trillions of dollars. He has no concept of actual economics, only the tax dodging his father and Weiselman taught him. Most of his cabinet from 2016-2020 are OPENLY telling people he’s a dangerous idiot who should never enter the Oval again. His own Vice President of 3.5 yrs ago is speaking out against him, ffs.

But, there’s nothing in the public realm to even suggest he is an unhinged sociopath with Mommy and Daddy issues, who has to feel like everything he touches is the biggest and best, and who has used PRESIDENTIAL DEBATES to discuss his dick size, his crowd size, and the eating of cats by illegal immigrants…who are neither illegal, nor eating cats hiding in the basement?!

In a format you like, and thus might understand…

He.

Is.

A.

Fucking.

Nutjob.

Who.

Is.

A.

Danger.

To,

The.

World.

 

[ChicagoBlue]

My side? I'm a centrist, actually slightly on the left. I don't treat political opinion as black and white like you or most others on here.

The Joke Thread is that way >>>>>>>>>>>>>

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

I guess the terms “criminal conspiracy” and “handlers” are missed on you!

How many of his inner circle were indicted, convicted and pardoned…or have simply not gone to trial yet?

How many J6 rioters have been convicted? Was it for just having a nice day out visiting the Capitol? And, what has Trump bowed to fo for them, if elected?

It’s funny watching you demand full transcripts of actions and context, while you take things out of context, embrace pedantry and demand detailed answers about future actions! Just take a look at WHAT HAS ALREADY OCCURRED and tell us this sociopath is a righteous man with the progress of the American experiment as his guiding principle!

He is a crook. A con man. A grifter. A rapist. A wannabee incestuous father (Ivanka) and pedo (beauty pageant!). That trophy daughter, the one he wants to fuck, has virtually disowned him. His wife openly ignores him in public, seats away his hand, rolls her eyes, and fake smiles when he looks at her…but then what else would one do when your husband bangs a porn star for $130,000 while you’re pregnant with his child?! He’s a convicted felon 34 times over…and counting. A racist. A slum lord…and I haven’t even got to his POLITICAL FAILINGS yet!!

He thinks tariffs are paid by China and collected by the U.S. Govt, reaping us billions and trillions of dollars. He has no concept of actual economics, only the tax dodging his father and Weiselman taught him. Most of his cabinet from 2016-2020 are OPENLY telling people he’s a dangerous idiot who should never enter the Oval again. His own Vice President of 3.5 yrs ago is speaking out against him, ffs.

But, there’s nothing in the public realm to even suggest he is an unhinged sociopath with Mommy and Daddy issues, who has to feel like everything he touches is the biggest and best, and who has used PRESIDENTIAL DEBATES to discuss his dick size, his crowd size, and the eating of cats by illegal immigrants…who are neither illegal, nor eating cats hiding in the basement!

In a format you like, and thus might understand…

He.

Is.

A.

Fucking.

Nutjob.

Who.

Is.

A.

Danger.

To,

The.

World.

I still don't understand why you guys are so squeamish about eating cats?

 

[ChicagoBlue]

I still don't understand why you guys are so squeamish about eating cats?

As I’m not a black, Haitian, illegal immigrant, I have no experience in this area, but I’m sure it must taste like chicken, no?

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

As I’m not a black, Haitian, illegal immigrant, I have no experience in this area, but I’m sure it must taste like chicken, no?

Most stuff does!

 

[KS55]

Most stuff does!

Except, ironically, mass produced chicken.

 

[mancity2012_eamo]

I guess the terms “criminal conspiracy” and “handlers” are missed on you!

How many of his inner circle were indicted, convicted and pardoned…or have simply not gone to trial yet?

How many J6 rioters have been convicted? Was it for just having a nice day out visiting the Capitol? And, what has Trump vowed to do for them, if elected?

It’s funny watching you demand full transcripts of actions and context, while you take things out of context, embrace pedantry and demand detailed answers about future actions! Just take a look at WHAT HAS ALREADY OCCURRED and tell us this sociopath is a righteous man with the progress of the American experiment as his guiding principle!

He is a crook. A con man. A grifter. A rapist. A wannabee incestuous father (Ivanka) and pedo (beauty pageant!). That trophy daughter, the one he wants to fuck, has virtually disowned him. His wife openly ignores him in public, bats away his hand, rolls her eyes, and fake smiles when he looks at her…but then what else would one do when your husband bangs a porn star for $130,000 while you’re pregnant with his child?! He’s a convicted felon 34 times over…and counting. A racist. A slum lord…and I haven’t even got to his POLITICAL FAILINGS yet!!

He thinks tariffs are paid by China and collected by the U.S. Govt, reaping us billions and trillions of dollars. He has no concept of actual economics, only the tax dodging his father and Weiselman taught him. Most of his cabinet from 2016-2020 are OPENLY telling people he’s a dangerous idiot who should never enter the Oval again. His own Vice President of 3.5 yrs ago is speaking out against him, ffs.

But, there’s nothing in the public realm to even suggest he is an unhinged sociopath with Mommy and Daddy issues, who has to feel like everything he touches is the biggest and best, and who has used PRESIDENTIAL DEBATES to discuss his dick size, his crowd size, and the eating of cats by illegal immigrants…who are neither illegal, nor eating cats hiding in the basement!

In a format you like, and thus might understand…

He.

Is.

A.

Fucking.

Nutjob.

Who.

Is.

A.

Danger.

To,

The.

World.

Yeah but apart from all that, would you go for a pint after work with him?

 

[ChicagoBlue]

Yeah but apart from all that, would you go for a pint after work with him?

Who is paying? ;-P

 

[west didsblue]

I guess the terms “criminal conspiracy” and “handlers” are missed on you!

How many of his inner circle were indicted, convicted and pardoned…or have simply not gone to trial yet?

How many J6 rioters have been convicted? Was it for just having a nice day out visiting the Capitol? And, what has Trump vowed to do for them, if elected?

It’s funny watching you demand full transcripts of actions and context, while you take things out of context, embrace pedantry and demand detailed answers about future actions! Just take a look at WHAT HAS ALREADY OCCURRED and tell us this sociopath is a righteous man with the progress of the American experiment as his guiding principle!

He is a crook. A con man. A grifter. A rapist. A wannabee incestuous father (Ivanka) and pedo (beauty pageant!). That trophy daughter, the one he wants to fuck, has virtually disowned him. His wife openly ignores him in public, bats away his hand, rolls her eyes, and fake smiles when he looks at her…but then what else would one do when your husband bangs a porn star for $130,000 while you’re pregnant with his child?! He’s a convicted felon 34 times over…and counting. A racist. A slum lord…and I haven’t even got to his POLITICAL FAILINGS yet!!

He thinks tariffs are paid by China and collected by the U.S. Govt, reaping us billions and trillions of dollars. He has no concept of actual economics, only the tax dodging his father and Weiselman taught him. Most of his cabinet from 2016-2020 are OPENLY telling people he’s a dangerous idiot who should never enter the Oval again. His own Vice President of 3.5 yrs ago is speaking out against him, ffs.

But, there’s nothing in the public realm to even suggest he is an unhinged sociopath with Mommy and Daddy issues, who has to feel like everything he touches is the biggest and best, and who has used PRESIDENTIAL DEBATES to discuss his dick size, his crowd size, and the eating of cats by illegal immigrants…who are neither illegal, nor eating cats hiding in the basement!

In a format you like, and thus might understand…

He.

Is.

A.

Fucking.

Nutjob.

Who.

Is.

A.

Danger.

To,

The.

World.

Great post.
Totally wasted on the imbecile it’s responding to.

 

[mancity2012_eamo]

Who is paying? ;-P

He’ll say he is but I’m guessing the barman would have to pickup the tab.

 

[Norbert D]

I guess the terms “criminal conspiracy” and “handlers” are missed on you!

How many of his inner circle were indicted, convicted and pardoned…or have simply not gone to trial yet?

How many J6 rioters have been convicted? Was it for just having a nice day out visiting the Capitol? And, what has Trump vowed to do for them, if elected?

It’s funny watching you demand full transcripts of actions and context, while you take things out of context, embrace pedantry and demand detailed answers about future actions! Just take a look at WHAT HAS ALREADY OCCURRED and tell us this sociopath is a righteous man with the progress of the American experiment as his guiding principle!

He is a crook. A con man. A grifter. A rapist. A wannabee incestuous father (Ivanka) and pedo (beauty pageant!). That trophy daughter, the one he wants to fuck, has virtually disowned him. His wife openly ignores him in public, bats away his hand, rolls her eyes, and fake smiles when he looks at her…but then what else would one do when your husband bangs a porn star for $130,000 while you’re pregnant with his child?! He’s a convicted felon 34 times over…and counting. A racist. A slum lord…and I haven’t even got to his POLITICAL FAILINGS yet!!

He thinks tariffs are paid by China and collected by the U.S. Govt, reaping us billions and trillions of dollars. He has no concept of actual economics, only the tax dodging his father and Weiselman taught him. Most of his cabinet from 2016-2020 are OPENLY telling people he’s a dangerous idiot who should never enter the Oval again. His own Vice President of 3.5 yrs ago is speaking out against him, ffs.

But, there’s nothing in the public realm to even suggest he is an unhinged sociopath with Mommy and Daddy issues, who has to feel like everything he touches is the biggest and best, and who has used PRESIDENTIAL DEBATES to discuss his dick size, his crowd size, and the eating of cats by illegal immigrants…who are neither illegal, nor eating cats hiding in the basement!

In a format you like, and thus might understand…

He.

Is.

A.

Fucking.

Nutjob.

Who.

Is.

A.

Danger.

To,

The.

World.

But you’re only looking at his bad bits.

Anthony Scaramucci tells a story how someone slipped at one of Trump’s homes and cracked his head, with blood flowing profusely from the chaps head, Trump admitted he was very concerned, very concerned how they would get the blood out of his expensive parquet flooring.

 

[ChicagoBlue]

He’ll say he is but I’m guessing the barman would have to pickup the tab.

Nice one!

Just like everyone else who ever worked for him!

 

[Bigga]

I guess the terms “criminal conspiracy” and “handlers” are missed on you!

How many of his inner circle were indicted, convicted and pardoned…or have simply not gone to trial yet?

How many J6 rioters have been convicted? Was it for just having a nice day out visiting the Capitol? And, what has Trump vowed to do for them, if elected?

It’s funny watching you demand full transcripts of actions and context, while you take things out of context, embrace pedantry and demand detailed answers about future actions! Just take a look at WHAT HAS ALREADY OCCURRED and tell us this sociopath is a righteous man with the progress of the American experiment as his guiding principle!

He is a crook. A con man. A grifter. A rapist. A wannabee incestuous father (Ivanka) and pedo (beauty pageant!). That trophy daughter, the one he wants to fuck, has virtually disowned him. His wife openly ignores him in public, bats away his hand, rolls her eyes, and fake smiles when he looks at her…but then what else would one do when your husband bangs a porn star for $130,000 while you’re pregnant with his child?! He’s a convicted felon 34 times over…and counting. A racist. A slum lord…and I haven’t even got to his POLITICAL FAILINGS yet!!

He thinks tariffs are paid by China and collected by the U.S. Govt, reaping us billions and trillions of dollars. He has no concept of actual economics, only the tax dodging his father and Weiselman taught him. Most of his cabinet from 2016-2020 are OPENLY telling people he’s a dangerous idiot who should never enter the Oval again. His own Vice President of 3.5 yrs ago is speaking out against him, ffs.

But, there’s nothing in the public realm to even suggest he is an unhinged sociopath with Mommy and Daddy issues, who has to feel like everything he touches is the biggest and best, and who has used PRESIDENTIAL DEBATES to discuss his dick size, his crowd size, and the eating of cats by illegal immigrants…who are neither illegal, nor eating cats hiding in the basement?!

In a format you like, and thus might understand…

He.

Is.

A.

Fucking.

Nutjob.

Who.

Is.

A.

Danger.

To,

The.

World.

LOL!! "Criminal conspiracy"? I'm just waiting for the day Trump is locked up, bang to rights. The only reason plebs like yourself is on this train is because a 'businessman' had the gall to run for office. These 'criminal conspiracies' are a political right only. How many of these politicians are jailed, come out and go back to their political lives or get pardoned? what a foolish outlook! There are loads in political office!

As for 'handlers', who the fuck do you think AIPAC, Blackstone and Blackrock are?? All of those three, that we know of, tend to choose the puppet president over the last 20 years. It's EXACTLY why none of those people who caused the crash in 2008 went to jail, but the poor people lost homes and jobs and the Gov shrugged their shoulders.

It's EXACTLY why they fund the wars overseas from the US, occupy other countries and enforce regime change when they can. Fuck your bullshit about handlers!

Who's not a crook, a con man or a grifter in the neolib/con state of politics in the US?

Who gives a fuck about his thoughts on tariffs and China? By all accounts, the likes of you and Foggy Brained friend made more money under his tenure than under Biden! I remember Foofy Brain talking about how his 401K had improved and it may have been with you, even!! I bet you a pound to dollar, that Harris or Biden knows fuck all about economics if you asked her or him about it RIGHT NOW! That's why 'experts' are hired.

I could give two fucks about his ego. I could two fucks about the pair of idiots you have allowed yourselves to be shepherded into voting for. I give a fuck about both desires to drive the world to war under false pretences that you fishes are eager to swallow. I give a fuck about the Working Class and innocent foreign citizens forced to leave their homes and survive, that suffer from your bullshit 'politics'.

You people are ill, sick for war and power without consequence and will only be sorry at the breakout of war involving your own people.

So, yeah, "great post". Utter dolts like West Dummy can't see past anything but the here and now. Not what's gone before to create the current mess, not anything ahead as a result of the actions today. All because you don't allow free and actually FAIR elections without suppression and blame in a country that spouts 'democracy'.

A country that screams about the antisemitism of the Jewish people and or Israel, while it suppresses and kills Palestinians... who are a semitic people!

You're a country FULL of contradictions are the highest levels!

Oh and the format you chose to 'mock' me with was a mirror of your stupid Foggy Brained friend's posting style, that I was mocking, so... good one!

 

[mancity2012_eamo]

LOL!! "Criminal conspiracy"? I'm just waiting for the day Trump is locked up, bang to rights. The only reason plebs like yourself is on this train is because a 'businessman' had the gall to run for office. These 'criminal conspiracies' are a political right only. How many of these politicians are jailed, come out and go back to their political lives or get pardoned? what a foolish outlook! There are loads in political office!

As for 'handlers', who the fuck do you think AIPAC, Blackstone and Blackrock are?? All of those three, that we know of, tend to choose the puppet president over the last 20 years. It's EXACTLY why none of those people who caused the crash in 2008 went to jail, but the poor people lost homes and jobs and the Gov shrugged their shoulders.

It's EXACTLY why they fund the wars overseas from the US, occupy other countries and enforce regime change when they can. Fuck your bullshit about handlers!

Who's not a crook, a con man or a grifter in the neolib/con state of politics in the US?

Who gives a fuck about his thoughts on tariffs and China? By all accounts, the likes of you and Foggy Brained friend made more money under his tenure than under Biden! I remember Foofy Brain talking about how his 401K had improved and it may have been with you, even!! I bet you a pound to dollar, that Harris or Biden knows fuck all about economics if you asked her or him about it RIGHT NOW! That's why 'experts' are hired.

I could give two fucks about his ego. I could two fucks about the pair of idiots you have allowed yourselves to be shepherded into voting for. I give a fuck about both desires to drive the world to war under false pretences that you fishes are eager to swallow. I give a fuck about the Working Class and innocent foreign citizens forced to leave their homes and survive, that suffer from your bullshit 'politics'.

You people are ill, sick for war and power without consequence and will only be sorry at the breakout of war involving your own people.

So, yeah, "great post". Utter dolts like West Dummy can't see past anything but the here and now. Not what's gone before to create the current mess, not anything ahead as a result of the actions today. All because you don't allow free and actually FAIR elections without suppression and blame in a country that spouts 'democracy'.

A country that screams about the antisemitism of the Jewish people and or Israel, while it suppresses and kills Palestinians... who are a semitic people!

You're a country FULL of contradictions are the highest levels!

Oh and the format you chose to 'mock' me with was a mirror of your stupid Foggy Brained friend's posting style, that I was mocking, so... good one!

Sounds to me that you are really angry at ‘America’, but you only seem to really get into your stride when chastising one side of this election.
I hear a lot of your arguments and say to myself, if this is genuine, I can see a lot of this guy’s frustrations.

But I don’t always jump to the same conclusions. Same goes for a few other posters.
You don’t offer an alternative workable solution and In these two election threads what that leaves is, from the answer you once gave me about how you would vote, is a non effective protest voice in the dark. That in itself is valid, don’t get me wrong.

But your arguments in here still remain imbalanced when it comes to the two main choices.

Yes you can say the same about other opinions in here, but the chief protagonists don’t make any bones about it. They’ve nailed their colours to the mast a long time back.

I suppose in a way I have done the same.
I don’t really have time for the American system that leaves the electorate in this situation, but I most definitely see a difference at a human level between what’s on offer and know I would not vote for Trump.
In fact I’m considering hiring a JCB and driving down to Doonbeg to dig up his golf course and perhaps carve Trump is a Cvnt on the 18th fairway.

Take a deep breath Bigga and maybe spend a little time in here if howling at the moon becomes too stressful.

The World is a wonderful place thread.

Oh my goodness it's all doom and gloom :-( on here recently. Let's have some positivity folks. I'll start you off: The world has my great-grandchildren and grandchildren to keep me happy. (As well as my offspring of course.) The world has rainbows and butterflies and mountains. The world has...

forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk

 

[west didsblue]

Great post.
Totally wasted on the imbecile it’s responding to.

Yep.
I was right.^^^^^

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

LOL!! "Criminal conspiracy"? I'm just waiting for the day Trump is locked up, bang to rights. The only reason plebs like yourself is on this train is because a 'businessman' had the gall to run for office. These 'criminal conspiracies' are a political right only. How many of these politicians are jailed, come out and go back to their political lives or get pardoned? what a foolish outlook! There are loads in political office!

As for 'handlers', who the fuck do you think AIPAC, Blackstone and Blackrock are?? All of those three, that we know of, tend to choose the puppet president over the last 20 years. It's EXACTLY why none of those people who caused the crash in 2008 went to jail, but the poor people lost homes and jobs and the Gov shrugged their shoulders.

It's EXACTLY why they fund the wars overseas from the US, occupy other countries and enforce regime change when they can. Fuck your bullshit about handlers!

Who's not a crook, a con man or a grifter in the neolib/con state of politics in the US?

Who gives a fuck about his thoughts on tariffs and China? By all accounts, the likes of you and Foggy Brained friend made more money under his tenure than under Biden! I remember Foofy Brain talking about how his 401K had improved and it may have been with you, even!! I bet you a pound to dollar, that Harris or Biden knows fuck all about economics if you asked her or him about it RIGHT NOW! That's why 'experts' are hired.

I could give two fucks about his ego. I could two fucks about the pair of idiots you have allowed yourselves to be shepherded into voting for. I give a fuck about both desires to drive the world to war under false pretences that you fishes are eager to swallow. I give a fuck about the Working Class and innocent foreign citizens forced to leave their homes and survive, that suffer from your bullshit 'politics'.

You people are ill, sick for war and power without consequence and will only be sorry at the breakout of war involving your own people.

So, yeah, "great post". Utter dolts like West Dummy can't see past anything but the here and now. Not what's gone before to create the current mess, not anything ahead as a result of the actions today. All because you don't allow free and actually FAIR elections without suppression and blame in a country that spouts 'democracy'.

A country that screams about the antisemitism of the Jewish people and or Israel, while it suppresses and kills Palestinians... who are a semitic people!

You're a country FULL of contradictions are the highest levels!

Oh and the format you chose to 'mock' me with was a mirror of your stupid Foggy Brained friend's posting style, that I was mocking, so... good one!

 

[Bigga]

Sounds to me that you are really angry at ‘America’, but you only seem to really get into your stride when chastising one side of this election.
I hear a lot of your arguments and say to myself, if this is genuine, I can see a lot of this guy’s frustrations.

But I don’t always jump to the same conclusions. Same goes for a few other posters.
You don’t offer an alternative workable solution and In these two election threads what that leaves is, from the answer you once gave me about how you would vote, is a non effective protest voice in the dark. That in itself is valid, don’t get me wrong.

But your arguments in here still remain imbalanced when it comes to the two main choices.

Yes you can say the same about other opinions in here, but the chief protagonists don’t make any bones about it. They’ve nailed their colours to the mast a long time back.

I suppose in a way I have done the same.
I don’t really have time for the American system that leaves the electorate in this situation, but I most definitely see a difference at a human level between what’s on offer and know I would not vote for Trump.
In fact I’m considering hiring a JCB and driving down to Doonbeg to dig up his golf course and perhaps carve Trump is a Cvnt on the 18th fairway.

Take a deep breath Bigga and maybe spend a little time in here if howling at the moon becomes too stressful.

The World is a wonderful place thread.

Oh my goodness it's all doom and gloom :-( on here recently. Let's have some positivity folks. I'll start you off: The world has my great-grandchildren and grandchildren to keep me happy. (As well as my offspring of course.) The world has rainbows and butterflies and mountains. The world has...

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Tell me what "alternative workable solution" is possible in a system where voices for the Working Class and peace are, purposefully, drowned out or strangled? Back in the day, before sanders changed tact to save his wife from the threat of embezzlement charges, he was mostly squeezed out from the MSM airwaves, but had enough backing from Working Class funding in order to get to the summit. And then in came funding from the big donors and the DNC making sure Sanders didn't get the delegates needed.

It's, literally, a very similar story now with a blocking of a political voice of Jill Stein's Green Party, sued off ballots by the DNC. You would expect politics to allow a voice to live or die by its message in something so "fair and free".

Is it fuck! It's just lies idiots swallow and you can see who they are by their collective 'liking' of their similar type of posts. They are very much the idiots that agree with the process of who the rich and powerful push forward to be Puppet Presidents.

I guarantee you, if big business were disallowed their bullshit 'money equals speech' mantra, with their disgusting lobbying and corrupting politicians, this world would be a very different, very peaceful one.

As for my 'imbalanced view' of the two 'choices on offer', what actual difference does it make when the 'joyous' female is talking about making the US army the 'most fearsome in the world'. Why? To occupy more countries? To threaten more war?

Ask yourself if people were satisfied in the US, why are there growing strikes from kids in colleges/ Unis to blue collar workers and less people even getting involved in the voting process, like in the UK? What does it actually tell you? That people are becoming more and more fed up and more disillusioned.

The whole thing is a joke.

 

[Bigga]

Speaking of jokes, I thought Foggy Brain had me on 'ignore' like he likes to tell everyone in his bravado.

Pathetic.

 

[mancity2012_eamo]

Tell me what "alternative workable solution" is possible in a system where voices for the Working Class and peace are, purposefully, drowned out or strangled? Back in the day, before sanders changed tact to save his wife from the threat of embezzlement charges, he was mostly squeezed out from the MSM airwaves, but had enough backing from Working Class funding in order to get to the summit. And then in came funding from the big donors and the DNC making sure Sanders didn't get the delegates needed.

It's, literally, a very similar story now with a blocking of a political voice of Jill Stein's Green Party, sued off ballots by the DNC. You would expect politics to allow a voice to live or die by its message in something so "fair and free".

Is it fuck! It's just lies idiots swallow and you can see who they are by their collective 'liking' of their similar type of posts. They are very much the idiots that agree with the process of who the rich and powerful push forward to be Puppet Presidents.

I guarantee you, if big business were disallowed their bullshit 'money equals speech' mantra, with their disgusting lobbying and corrupting politicians, this world would be a very different, very peaceful one.

As for my 'imbalanced view' of the two 'choices on offer', what actual difference does it make when the 'joyous' female is talking about making the US army the 'most fearsome in the world'. Why? To occupy more countries? To threaten more war?

Ask yourself if people were satisfied in the US, why are there growing strikes from kids in colleges/ Unis to blue collar workers and less people even getting involved in the voting process, like in the UK? What does it actually tell you? That people are becoming more and more fed up and more disillusioned.

The whole thing is a joke.

You see this is a perfect example of what I’m genuinely trying to explain to you.
I don’t have an alternative workable solution. I have asked quite civilly for explanations of the American system and got quite amicable and informative answers back. So I’m not professing to like their system. I don’t profess to find it the greatest democracy in the world, but I can still choose quite easily I would say, the lesser of two evils as I see it and knowing full well I have no say in the outcome one way or another.

The people you seem to have the most beef with in here, well let’s just say, I don’t conclude the same as you do from what they tell us in here.
It’s not in my view a blind endorsement of everything Blue and Democratic.
That’s not what they are saying.
In the system they have and what they perceive the two possible outcomes would mean to their own country never mind globally, it’s not even a close run race in their minds.
Personally without endorsing their system or their foreign policy and not being blind to how the world is run, can see why and I feel I would be the exact same in the circumstances.
Don’t get me started on Israel, I’m struggling to stay out of that thread as it is and don’t get me going on Ukraine either.

I don’t think people in here are as blind to the world as you make out.
I don’t think ‘these idiots’ as you put it, are anything of the sort.

Money buys power, it’s not a new thing. Look what we’re accused of in the PL.
Yet it’s always been so since its inception. It just depends who’s wielding it.

In short Bigga, I suppose the big difference in opinions between myself and yourself is that I do feel you portray a very just argument being your driving force but you seemingly willingly misconstrue others incentive as bias when they ask you to call out the Trump side of America. An America that you seem to be railing against but mostly those not voting for Trump.

Me on the other hand have no problem telling our American brethren that I have no interest in visiting the place, particularly if that clown gets into power, but value their views on how their country operates and appreciate that they are not all as gullible and dim as we see in the MAGA social media clips on YouTube etc.

While I think of it too, this might be more directed towards Dax, I can’t remember. Maybe both of you.
But a lot seems to be made of Kamala’s nomination being non democratic?
I just don’t get that. I don’t know where you are from but I know in Britain the Tories had three different Prime Ministers in as many years it seemed and there’s nothing unconstitutional about that, if they had a constitution.
Over here our PR- STV voting system allows for that. You vote for your local candidate. The majority party forms a government and can choose their own leader as many times as they like. They choose from within the party, nothing to do with going back to the electorate.

Don’t know why I brought that up, but it has been bugging me, along with other bogus arguments that seem to want to sidetrack the simple issue in front of us.

Two options for Prez.
I see one unfit to qualify as human. Simple.