Keir Starmer

She was sat with a tory around the same age...they were getting on with each other (think they may have penned a piece together). Felt a bit refreshing for that lack of bile and the addition of common ground rather than being polar opposites that must snarl at each other. Definitely likeable, which is v rare for a politician it seems these days.
The 'people buy from people'...many might think he's a giant **** but Boris has that bit of charm as evident in his Mayor days...personality at the very least.
Matt Hancock on the other evident couldn't sell me a drop of water if I was deathly parched.
Still think we're talking about a huge rebuild here though and momentum do not seem to be giving it up. Not that he would perhaps want the gig (and I've already mentioned him), but if the labour earth is scorched D. Milliband could be a strong option...?
There wont be a by- election for ages though. Only way that will happen is if they sacrifice one of their existing MPs on health reasons or to spend time with the family or some such excuse. Would look pretty cynical really
 
There wont be a by- election for ages though. Only way that will happen is if they sacrifice one of their existing MPs on health reasons or to spend time with the family or some such excuse. Would look pretty cynical really
Funnily enough you don't have to be an MP to be a minister or even to be PM, but I would guess to be leader of the opposition, you probably do?
 
Had labour been a less toxic exteme party i think they may have got a way with offering a second vote.

Many blame their Brexit stance on the stuffing they got. It seems most are burying their heads and maintaining that opinion. Until there is a shift to the centre and they rid themselves of the far left poison then they will continue to be unelectable.

It really is very sad, and tragic for the country.

In many ways i do not blame the traditional Labour voters who voted Tory they clearly felt they had no other option.

That is solely the fault of the labour party and the yoghurt knitters who hijacked it.

Hard to see even a half credible replacement for Corbyn in its ranks. At least one whom will tempt back even those who simply did not vote rather than sell their souls to evil.
 
I agree with some of your points here. But it is almost like you want Labour to be silent on brexit and not challenge the government on anything it does. Brexit will do nothing for the working class communities that voted for it - Zero. It will be very damaging for our economy and lots of decent jobs will be lost. That reality is what Boris will have to answer to and it is the job of the opposition to hold him to account and ensure that the consequences are understood. Labour don't need to keep re-running 2016 but they do need to ensure that those that started and will now implement this shit show own it. Brexit will be a problem for the foreseeable future and Boris does not deserve a free pass on it.
Well, that’s all predicated on your opinion,
telling people that it WILL be bad, damaging, a shit show, made no impact at all before the vote,and unless it does I see no point in constantly saying it will.
 
Again, agree entirely. What on earth was the point of people voting to "take back control" and then signing us up to rules and regulations we cannot control???!

I get why Labour supporter think this is a big deal and everyone is going to get shafted, but I really don't see it like that. I don't think the Tories have any intention of eroding workers' rights, i just don't think we can allow ourselves to be bound by future laws over which we can have no influence nor control. That would be madness IMO.

It’s been confirmed today that our workers rights, whilst not “signing up” to the EU’s, will be largely the same anyway, we just will do it without being under their regulations.

So there, everybody happy.
 
It’s been confirmed today that our workers rights, whilst not “signing up” to the EU’s, will be largely the same anyway, we just will do it without being under their regulations.

So there, everybody happy.
I don't think the likes of Bigga or IfIwasonly... will ever be happy mate. Not until we have a modern day Lenin as PM, i.e. never.
 
It’s been confirmed today that our workers rights, whilst not “signing up” to the EU’s, will be largely the same anyway, we just will do it without being under their regulations.

So there, everybody happy.
I've got a Nigerian prince I'd like to introduce you too, might be able to make you some easy money?
 

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