Are you oblivious to the numerous - very numerous - economic catastrophes which have befallen nations which in the past thought it was OK to say "fuck it, let's just print some more money"?Austerity was a pile of shite sold to a public who don't understand public finances, though to be fair, I don't expect them too. This whole shite about comparing the nations finances to household finances, and how we need to 'tighten our belts' is a load of bollocks. A household can't suddenly decide "fuck it, I'm going to print some money". And it was only ever austerity for the working people of this country, the capital owning class have done very nicely thank you very much. The fact that people voted for it doesn't mean it was a good idea. As for brexit, that's even fucking stupider but at least it's going to happen now. Bit like my Corbyn supporting friends who will now finally get to shut the fuck up telling me I'm wrong about Corbyn and he'll come good, the same will be happening with the brexit crowd soon enough. On the bright side, if Brexit hadn't have happened, I'm afraid I'd have ended up punching someone for telling me I hated democracy which is another load of horseshit. I don't hate democracy, just people who think they know a lot but haven't made the effort to find out if their assumption on that matter is true or not.
*Note: that wasn't aimed at you, just a general fuck you to all i feel it should be flung at. Tired of people thinking they're experts on things because they've read a couple of articles they liked on facebook.
I was talking about any country that prints its own currency, can set it's interest levels etc. Households can't do that. As for Red Ed, I didn't and still don't agree with his stance.Are you oblivious to the numerous - very numerous - economic catastrophes which have befallen nations which in the past thought it was OK to say "fuck it, let's just print some more money"?
It comes to something when in 2005 - after 5 yearss of austerity - Red Ed Milliband himself was still saying the austerity was necessary and there would have to be still more cuts after 5 years of cuts. Maybe you should have a chat with him.
But surely the point of getting the deficit down was to reduce the debt, and that hasn't happened, the debt has gone up. All the promises Osbourne and then Hammond made about where the economy would be as a result of austerity have been shown to be bollocks, it hasn't worked. I don't believe the deficit has gone down in real terms either. You only have to look at the way the conservatives calculate their employment figures to realise their figures on pretty much anything are complete bullshit.You’re far too intelligent to have me explain deficit vs debt and the importance of the former.
With regards to Brexit, I’m a remainer, always have been and always will be, however following the election and how the last three years has played out, I’ve left remaining behind. My mindset is we’re going and it’s right that we do, considering the election results since.
I was on here defending the LibDems over revoke, saying anything who earns a majority has the democratic mandate to enforce whatever they campaigned on, especially their cornerstone policy. This policy will trump any referendum as we are a representative democracy.
The Tories campaigned on this Brexit deal and therefore they have that mandate and it is the will of the people.
I know you know this but what I’m trying to say is being frustrated about what’s happened isn’t going to help, look forward and try and be optimistic. Leaving the EU shouldn’t be a ridiculous thing to do, it should be natural for a country to want that independence but we must make a success, or damage limiting effort.
Sorry I thought that was what we followed a democratic process for.Self determination for those engaged in sophisticated tax avoidance yes - fully agree.
But surely the point of getting the deficit down was to reduce the debt, and that hasn't happened, the debt has gone up. All the promises Osbourne and then Hammond made about where the economy would be as a result of austerity have been shown to be bollocks, it hasn't worked. I don't believe the deficit has gone down in real terms either. You only have to look at the way the conservatives calculate their employment figures to realise their figures on pretty much anything are complete bullshit.
As for your final point, I don't believe any country can be truly independent anymore. These trade deals we're going to be negotiating, they will be reliant on what other economically stronger countries want. Take the US, they will fucking crucify us on trade deals because they'll know how much we need them. As part of a greater trading block we'd have more power to negotiate. Strangely though, I'm not frustrated anymore, the election result has actually made me feel better. We know what's happening now. It's not what I wanted, and I think it's going to royally fuck things up, but at least we know what the craic is now. Anyway, I have a meeting at 4, once that is done I'm off for 2 weeks, and a gig in town tonight too, so all is certainly not bad.
All possibly true. As you said, we'll never know. Dragging this back on topic, I just hope the next Labour leader is able to offer decent opposition to Johnson and what he is planning on doing. I appreciate the votes in the HoC aren't there anymore, Corbyn blew that, but I'd just like to see his arguments challenged. The number of open goals comrade jezza had in front of him... every time he managed to boot himself in the face.The argument will be under Labour the debt would be much higher affecting credit ratings etc etc... is been a long time argument. I think the option at the time was Tory austerity or smaller labour austerity. Many are starting to agree that the Tories may have gone overboard but equally Labour may have given in to the urge to spend more than they said they would even if you agreed with their original stance. They do have form.We will never know.
Are you oblivious to the numerous - very numerous - economic catastrophes which have befallen nations which in the past thought it was OK to say "fuck it, let's just print some more money"?
It comes to something when in 2005 - after 5 yearss of austerity - Red Ed Milliband himself was still saying the austerity was necessary and there would have to be still more cuts after 5 years of cuts. Maybe you should have a chat with him.
Labour could go from a Terrorist sympathiser in Corbyn to Emily Thornberry who called an Englishman racist for flying The George Cross at his house
But surely the point of getting the deficit down was to reduce the debt, and that hasn't happened, the debt has gone up. All the promises Osbourne and then Hammond made about where the economy would be as a result of austerity have been shown to be bollocks, it hasn't worked. I don't believe the deficit has gone down in real terms either. You only have to look at the way the conservatives calculate their employment figures to realise their figures on pretty much anything are complete bullshit.
As for your final point, I don't believe any country can be truly independent anymore. These trade deals we're going to be negotiating, they will be reliant on what other economically stronger countries want. Take the US, they will fucking crucify us on trade deals because they'll know how much we need them. As part of a greater trading block we'd have more power to negotiate. Strangely though, I'm not frustrated anymore, the election result has actually made me feel better. We know what's happening now. It's not what I wanted, and I think it's going to royally fuck things up, but at least we know what the craic is now. Anyway, I have a meeting at 4, once that is done I'm off for 2 weeks, and a gig in town tonight too, so all is certainly not bad.