Keir Starmer

[Two Gun Bob]

Why is it that distancing yourself from the "rabid left" is admirable for Starmer, but nobody ever asks Johnson to distance himself from the "rabid right"

We live in a country where it is now acceptable to be a Libertarian fuckwit, but not acceptable to be a Socialist.

Not admirable but more essential if you ever want to see a socialist government in power. To your good self it may well be a dumbed down version of your politics but it's a step in the right direction if Labour are to set foot in Nos 10 again.

I remember vaguely a post saying you no longer recognised the party that all your life you affiliated with and to say you were disppointed would be an understatement. Was the electorate having an off day Rascal when they went to the poll in 2019 or were they sending out a clear message to corbynism, rascisim, wokyism and all the excitable factions that infest Labour at every level.

The worst drubbing in my grandchildrens lifetime, the worst drubbing in my lifetime and even the worst drubbing in my mothers life time and once again the far lefts appeal to the nation fell on deaf ears. You will never be able to make some understand or accept something if they are too stubborn or unwilling to learn or notice. You can present facts and try to reason all you want, but.. if their mind is made up. Reminds me of the idiom "There's non so blind as those that will not see"

Has there ever been a better oppertunity to take back the labour heartlands than the here and now with such a deceitful pitiful band of miscreants in the oppositions bench. Labour is starting to edge it in the polls but should actually be landsliding in this current climate. I dont know what the answer is for Labour, maybe they should listen to Mr Blair who last year issued a few soundbites to chew over to repair the credibility factor by pushing far left margins to the sideline.

As a non political animal and merely gestating from the sidelines I see Mr Starmer as a pleasant affable human who is trying to distance himself and his party from the miscreants that led them to that worst defeat in living memory .. so more power to his elbow.

I have voted Conservative all my life except once which was for Labour. Everyone is baying for Boris's blood but it's not just Boris who attended the parties and they should all hang their heads in eternal shame. To see our Queen (old bag) attending the funeral of her late husband and sat on her own mourning his passing really brought home to me the selfish actions of our govenment. Echoed of course right across the country as people died estranged from their families for the good of the nation as together we fought the covidial menace.

As @The Future's Blue! mentioned we are nearing a period where we are going to see the worst conditions this country has seen since the 70s facing rampant inflation and all our goverment has to offer our needy is a force fed paltry £200 loan and this in the face of the obcene profit margins that Shell and BP have just published. I like Conservatism really I do but It would not take much of a tipping point to see me cast my vote differently and I guess that may apply to many out there Right Now in disillutioned land.

Im afraid I will not be able to engage with you at any real level of political jive as my brain was only formatted at GCSE level but do wish you well comrade on your journey to the promised land and social injustice wherever that may lie.

 

[Don Karleone]

Nobody cared when Corbyn was getting death threats and assaulted. Funny that.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

Not admirable but more essential if you ever want to see a socialist government in power again. To your good self it may well be a dumbed down version of your politics but it's a step in the right direction if ever you wish to see Nos 10 again.

I remember vaguely a post saying you no longer recognised the party that all your life you affiliated with and to say you were disppointed would be an understatement. Was the electorate having an off day Rascal when they went to the poll in 2019 or were they sending out a clear message to corbynism, rascisim, wokyism and all the excitable factions that infest Labour at every level.

The worst drubbing in my grandchildrens lifetime, the worst drubbing in my lifetime and even the worst drubbing in my mothers life time and still the far lefts appeal to our nation falls upon deaf ears. You will never be able to make some understand or accept something if they are too stubborn or unwilling to learn or notice. You can present facts and try to reason all you want, but.. if their mind is made up. Reminds me of the idiom "There's non so blind as those that will not see"

Has there ever been a better oppertunity to take back the labour heartlands than the here and now with such a deceitful pitiful band of miscreants in the oppositions bench. Labour is starting to edge it in the polls but should actually be landsliding in this current climate. I dont know what the answer is for Labour? maybe they should listen to Mr Blair who last year issued out a few soundbites for you to chew on to repair that credibility factor by pushing its far left margins to the sideline.

As a non political animal and merely gestating from the sidelines I see Mr Starmer as a pleasant affable human being who is trying to distance himself and his party from the miscreants that led them to their worst defeat in living memory .. so more power to his elbow.

I have voted Conservative all my life except once which was for Labour. Everyone is baying for Boris's blood but it's not just Boris who attended the parties and they should all hang their heads in eternal shame. To see our Queen (old bag) attending the funeral of her late husband and sat on her own mourning his passing really brought home to me the selfish actions of our govenment. Echoed of course right across the country as people died estranged from their families for the good of the nation as together we fought that covidial menace.

As @The Future's Blue! mentioned we are nearing a period where we are going to see the worst conditions this country has seen since the 70s facing rampant inflation and all my goverment has to offer our needy is a force fed paltry £200 loan repayable over 5 years and this in the face of the obcene profit margins that Shell and BP have just published. I like Conservatism really I do but It would not take much of a tipping point to see me cast my vote differently and I guess that may apply to many out there Right Now in disillutioned land.

Im afraid I will not be able to engage with you at any real level of political jive as my brain was only formatted at GCSE level but do wish you well comrade on your journey to the promised land and social injustice wherever that may lie.

To answer your question, a better opportunity to get into number 10 for labour existed at the previous ge and Corbyn was only prevented from doing so by a the quirks of our electoral system.

 

[Postman Pep]

Nobody cared when Corbyn was getting death threats and assaulted. Funny that.

The collective pearl clutching of the Westminster bubble because a few unhinged idiots shouted some nasty things at Keith has been a sight to behold. Bleating on about gutter politics and the dangers of unfounded smears without a hint of irony. Pot and kettle.

 

[west didsblue]

Nobody cared when Corbyn was getting death threats and assaulted. Funny that.

Someone threw an egg at him and got locked up. This was Brexit related.
Someone else spat at him and got a community order. It was accepted that this was not politically motivated.
Can't find any stories about a mob descending on him and abusing him using insults that the Prime Minister had used a few days earlier.

 

[Postman Pep]

In other news



Despite their perilous finances Labour seem to be saying shut the door on the way out



One theory doing the rounds is that the gap will be plugged by the Tony Blair foundation. A corporate funded Labour party what a time to be alive!

 

[mat]

Nobody cared when Corbyn was getting death threats and assaulted. Funny that.

Indeed.

I recall a blairite loving comedian making jokes about it.

 

[joe123]

In other news



Despite their perilous finances Labour seem to be saying shut the door on the way out



One theory doing the rounds is that the gap will be plugged by the Tony Blair foundation. A corporate funded Labour party what a time to be alive!

Obviously the unions are entitled to channel their funds and support wherever they see fit. However, I'd argue it's an incredibly short-sighted view to think that by hindering Starmer they are acting in their members interests as all they're doing is facilitating more Tory rule.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

Someone threw an egg at him and got locked up. This was Brexit related.
Someone else spat at him and got a community order. It was accepted that this was not politically motivated.
Can't find any stories about a mob descending on him and abusing him using insults that the Prime Minister had used a few days earlier.

What about the people that spent everyday outside his house, or following him down Westminster at night until he got in his son's car?

 

[Postman Pep]

Obviously the unions are entitled to channel their funds and support wherever they see fit. However, I'd argue it's an incredibly short-sighted view to think that by hindering Starmer they are acting in their members interests as all they're doing is facilitating more Tory rule.

I'll turn your argument on it's head and ask isn't this 'destroy the village to save it' approach of the new management incredibly shortsighted and if this strategy fails all they are doing is facilitating more Tory rule?