Keir Starmer

BTH said:
Bit disingenuous to claim "To say they didn't know the scale of the debt further shows how irresponsible and incompetent they are."

The Opposition - even a Government apparent - don't get anything like the briefings the actual Government get!

And even up to his last PMQs, Rishi Sunak was still trotting out his "you've never had it so good" lines.

It was obvious to all - well, maybe not you - that the first thing the new Government would have to do was audit the books.
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It’s six of one and half a dozen of the other. This is the scale of Labour policy and its impact on the legendary black hole of £22bn

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So about £16bn of the £22bn is down to Labour. Fair enough they wanted to get things done. All political choices (and some of them good choices).

Fast forward to October and Reeves plugged that £22bn black hole with £40bn in tax rises. Again political choices but that leaves about £18bn of extra revenue right?

But apparently we hear that old mother Hubbard’s cupboard is yet again bare and if we want to pay for more defence the disabled are going to have to lend a hand (no pun intended).

If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it’s probably a Tory in disguise.
 
BigJoe#1 said:
... so what? He's a barefaced liar.... does my dislike for him upset you? Or am I obliged to like him, which if he was honest and not a liar I would do.
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I don’t care what you think of him but if you can’t spot your own hypocrisy telling another poster that this thread is about Starmer there’s no helping you.
 
BigJoe#1 said:
This thread is about Kier Starmer isn't it?

To answer your question he is no worse or better that the majority of the rest of them.
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I'd disagree, I think Farage is a bigger menace than most. I've stopped looking at things from a left and right perspective and simply about who will do anything to address the continued growth in inequality and the gap between the very richest and the rest of us, because that's the issue. IMO Starmer is something of a coward in that he seems completely unwilling or unable to tackle the question of the wealth distribution imbalances that are at the root of our problems. He seems willing to punch down a bit and rearrange the deck chairs on the Titanic.

However I think Farage is actively committed to continue and accelerate the concentration of wealth in the hands of a tiny proportion of people. He likes those people, he's happy to take their money, spout their divisive nonsense and operate in their orbit for his and their ends.

If Labour fails, and it's hard to see how they won't if they're not actually prepared to tackle the real issue of wealth inequality, then Farage will feed off that dissent to make things better for the rich and even worse for ordinary people.
 
threespires said:
I'd disagree, I think Farage is a bigger menace than most. I've stopped looking at things from a left and right perspective and simply about who will do anything to address the continued growth in inequality and the gap between the very richest and the rest of us, because that's the issue. IMO Starmer is something of a coward in that he seems completely unwilling or unable to tackle the question of the wealth distribution imbalances that are at the root of our problems. He seems willing to punch down a bit and rearrange the deck chairs on the Titanic.

However I think Farage is actively committed to continue and accelerate the concentration of wealth in the hands of a tiny proportion of people. He likes those people, he's happy to take their money, spout their divisive nonsense and operate in their orbit for his and their ends.

If Labour fails, and it's hard to see how they won't if they're not actually prepared to tackle the real issue of wealth inequality, then Farage will feed off that dissent to make things better for the rich and even worse for ordinary people.
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It was fun to see him squirm answering that - ‘no worse or better than the rest of them’ is such a hilarious cop out.
 
west didsblue said:
I don’t care what you think of him but if you can’t spot your own hypocrisy telling another poster that this thread is about Starmer there’s no helping you.
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Who is this thread about then? Want to make it a Farage battering thread then go ahead. Pointless exercise, but carry on.
 
Starmer comes across to me like a kid with ambition to become Prime Minister and through the ridiculous political state we have been in for about a decade or so now, and through political self destruction and attrition has ended up there not knowing what the fuck to do.

A good analogy would be a turtle on a fence post

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BigJoe#1 said:
What complete and utter claptrap... anyone else listening to his address to the Organised Immigration Crime Summit?

A classic lesson in how yo use many words to say absolutely nothing... and he hasn't even finished...
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You need to reexamine your life priorities. The sun is shining, City won and you are watching politicians speaking at an Organised Immigration Crime Summit. For the love of God, man, Why?
 
BlueHammer85 said:
Because he wants us to vote Reform.
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He doesn’t know what he wants. He just knows what he doesn’t and makes sure he remembers this by telling the politics subforum repeatedly.

It’s mostly why I don’t post as much in here now. It’s just the same people moaning about the same things. Debate goes nowhere and no one is changing anyone else’s mind.
 
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