Keir Starmer

Clearly not going off your post, that of Mat who also wants to make evil enemies of those pesky blairites and mine and many others loathing of all things momentum to be fair.

No one is coming together again, you know this.

You live in a fantasy concocted for you.
 
Did you even read it?

The article yes.

Report no as its been buried by lawyers but going off its profestations of "nothing to see" and "poor Jezza, those damn blairites had it in for him" conclusions then id rather not and even if i did, id probably find the beano more believable to be honest mate.
 
For the record, whilst I am making a fleeting visit.

My Labour party membership is in the bin, I have left the party or more accurately I have left because I am fucked off with the right wing of the Labour party with their middle class metropolitan outlook and pro-European stance. The party is fucked and I cannot support a wooden box like Starmer who was one of the architects of the Labour defeat with his kowtowing to the FBFE fruitcakes.

We had a glimmer of hope under Corbyn of a Socialist future where people mattered, now we have a Tory chancellor enacting classical Keynesian methodology and being applauded for it by all and sundry whilst when Labour proposed the same, the right wing of the Labour party opposed it and stuck with its Blairite neo-liberal obsession.

For all of you who opposed Corbyn and Socialism, you got what you deserved, one of the most inept catastrophic governments in our history lead by a narcissistic clown who is an embarrassment to our country.

I hope everyone is keeping safe, I hope you are all making some sort of sense out of the idiotic approach to this pandemic that Johnson and his fools have taken and I hope you all stay well and keep smiling.

On the bright side we are still Champions, and I am off to rejoin the CPGB
 
For the record, whilst I am making a fleeting visit.

My Labour party membership is in the bin, I have left the party or more accurately I have left because I am fucked off with the right wing of the Labour party with their middle class metropolitan outlook and pro-European stance. The party is fucked and I cannot support a wooden box like Starmer who was one of the architects of the Labour defeat with his kowtowing to the FBFE fruitcakes.

We had a glimmer of hope under Corbyn of a Socialist future where people mattered, now we have a Tory chancellor enacting classical Keynesian methodology and being applauded for it by all and sundry whilst when Labour proposed the same, the right wing of the Labour party opposed it and stuck with its Blairite neo-liberal obsession.

For all of you who opposed Corbyn and Socialism, you got what you deserved, one of the most inept catastrophic governments in our history lead by a narcissistic clown who is an embarrassment to our country.

I hope everyone is keeping safe, I hope you are all making some sort of sense out of the idiotic approach to this pandemic that Johnson and his fools have taken and I hope you all stay well and keep smiling.

On the bright side we are still Champions, and I am off to rejoin the CPGB
Good to hear from you Rascal, keep posting mate. Even if it isn't about politics, I always enjoy reading your posts. Stay safe
 
For the record, whilst I am making a fleeting visit.

My Labour party membership is in the bin, I have left the party or more accurately I have left because I am fucked off with the right wing of the Labour party with their middle class metropolitan outlook and pro-European stance. The party is fucked and I cannot support a wooden box like Starmer who was one of the architects of the Labour defeat with his kowtowing to the FBFE fruitcakes.

We had a glimmer of hope under Corbyn of a Socialist future where people mattered, now we have a Tory chancellor enacting classical Keynesian methodology and being applauded for it by all and sundry whilst when Labour proposed the same, the right wing of the Labour party opposed it and stuck with its Blairite neo-liberal obsession.

For all of you who opposed Corbyn and Socialism, you got what you deserved, one of the most inept catastrophic governments in our history lead by a narcissistic clown who is an embarrassment to our country.

I hope everyone is keeping safe, I hope you are all making some sort of sense out of the idiotic approach to this pandemic that Johnson and his fools have taken and I hope you all stay well and keep smiling.

On the bright side we are still Champions, and I am off to rejoin the CPGB

Always said you was a commie ;-)
 
Always said you was a commie ;-)

I am a Commie. More Leninist than Stalinist though. Lenin was a great man, well worth a read as well, Stalin was a dictator with a murderous streak. Typical of the left though that even on the further left there is factionalism and infighting over the interpretations of Marx between the Trotskyites, the Leninists and the Stalinists with the Socialists thrown in for good measure. Us lefties love an IST and an ISM and will argue a minor ideological point for days on end whilst the Tories being bereft of any succinct ideological basis adapt to suit as Alan Clarke the Thatcher golden boy said "The tories will do anything to be in power" whilst the left will only want power on a sound ideological basis unless you are a centrist Blairite with no ideology of your own apart from neo-con and neo-liberal associations.
 
Still one of the best satires and also depictions of some on the left wing and their factionalism and idocy is the peoples front of judea from life of brian.

A lot of talk and committes, little action and then action that isn't commited enough to change.

And of course dislike amd lack of liking for other socialist groups




I mean half the unions dislike each other or have a friendly rivaly
 
Still one of the best satires and also depictions of some on the left wing and their factionalism and idocy is the peoples front of judea from life of brian.

A lot of talk and committes, little action and then action that isn't commited enough to change.

And of course dislike amd lack of liking for other socialist groups




I mean half the unions dislike each other or have a friendly rivaly


This has always been spot on. I've used it in a Union AGM speech last year.




It's official.

The Establishment have endorsed Starmer.
 
This has always been spot on. I've used it in a Union AGM speech last year.




It's official.

The Establishment have endorsed Starmer.

He's certainly got the approval of the right wing press who seem so relieved to finally have a decent 'opposition'. Reminds me of condescending rags in 1998 telling me they'd love to see city back in the top flight...
 
Yes, the media fulsome in its praise of Starmer, I am sure tea with Murdoch will be next and then a red carpet visit to the Daily Heil.

Makes me sick

What should really make you sick is that your left wing chums in the Labour Party have been so imept that we are saddled with a bunch of right wing loons in Government.
 
What should really make you sick is that your left wing chums in the Labour Party have been so imept that we are saddled with a bunch of right wing loons in Government.

The leaked report made quite clear it was the right wing of the Labour party that sabotaged the party and Corbyn's election chances with their disinformation, lies and complicitness with that **** Watson. They are a stain not just on the Labour party but also on democracy. Its the right wing of the labour party who were as Urban Genie quite rightly said for the continuum of neo-liberalism and neo-conservativism, that's why the right wing media like Starmer, he is a Blairite puppet who will dance to the Murdoch tune. In the UK now you will have a choice between a right wing Labour party and a further right wing Tory party.

After Covid is past, then we will see the Tories in full flow, austerity for the poor as per normal, corporatism for the wealthy as the likes of Mogg counts his earnings from the crisis.
 
The media narrative with PMQ's praising Starmer and not picking on his weaknesses. Corbyn asking the same questions would have been accused of politicising and being unpatriotic.

We could well have a labour government in 5 years time if this nicey nicey policy continues. It will only be in name only. NEC and leadership controlled by the centre right. The silence from the media over this and the report is telling.

Urban Genie has nailed it. Same policies just different colour rosettes.
 
The leaked report made quite clear it was the right wing of the Labour party that sabotaged the party and Corbyn's election chances with their disinformation, lies and complicitness with that **** Watson. They are a stain not just on the Labour party but also on democracy. Its the right wing of the labour party who were as Urban Genie quite rightly said for the continuum of neo-liberalism and neo-conservativism, that's why the right wing media like Starmer, he is a Blairite puppet who will dance to the Murdoch tune. In the UK now you will have a choice between a right wing Labour party and a further right wing Tory party.

After Covid is past, then we will see the Tories in full flow, austerity for the poor as per normal, corporatism for the wealthy as the likes of Mogg counts his earnings from the crisis.

Corbyn wasn't ever getting elected.
 
From the review of PMQs in one paper

"but if Labour had to choose someone well suited to parliament in serious/boring mode, it is hard to imagine anyone better than Starmer, and he will chalk today’s outing up, not as a triumph, but certainly as a success. His questions were clear, forensic and focused, he avoided bland or trite sloganising and he adopted a measured tone consistent with responsible, constructive opposition"
 

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