Keir Starmer

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

Surely Starmer and anyone else in the AS shadow cabinet have to go now?

 

[Bluemanc100]

What we need now is a good witch hunt.

I wonder if he’ll float

 

[Bovril]

Starmer etal who were on the front bench with Corbyn either ignored what was going on or was complicit, no other explanation.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

This report is the opportunity he will take to move the party back to PR friendly new new labour or whatever he'll brand it as.

I think "electable" was the word you were looking for Mat.

 

[blueinsa]

Starmer etal who were on the front bench with Corbyn either ignored what was going on or was complicit, no other explanation.

Agree. They are all guilty here, including Starmer.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

Starmer needs to go now. He stood by and saved himself while all this was going on. He'll never be able to shake the accusation that he made political capital from complicity and silence with regard to AS, and cynically tried to hold it at arms length once he became leader.

 

[Bluemanc100]

Starmer etal who were on the front bench with Corbyn either ignored what was going on or was complicit, no other explanation.

But it was all bullshit about Corbyn from the right wing press I read on here...

 

[cookster]

This report is the opportunity he will take to move the party back to PR friendly new new labour or whatever he'll brand it as.

As opposed to the PR nightmare from Corbyn and his unelectable cult following.

 

[mat]

I think "electable" was the word you were looking for Mat.

As opposed to the PR nightmare from Corbyn and his unelectable cult following.

He came within a few thousand votes of being PM in 2017.

Never understood why the right seem to believe he wasn't electable.

He was shafted by staff and officers of his own party for the last 2 years. But yeah, don't let a bit of sabotage get in the way of your narrative.


I despair for this country and its Stockholm syndrome attitude towards being treated like shit. When a fresh alternative appears you'd rather stick with a dry fucking from Etononian idiots.


It's gone now. Time to move forward and see which Dickens novel we all end up reprising next year when the real shit hits the fan.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

I know he lost the job last time for looking daft when he ate a sandwhich, but Ed Milliband would be the perfect leader to replace Sir Kier. Three reasons - first, the way he battered Boris at PMQ's, second, he is of Jewish heritage which would hopefully restore Jewish faith in the partys commitment to change, and third he does not share Sir Kiers shame as a member of Corbyns complicit AS regime.

 

[Bluemanc100]

I know he lost the job last time for looking daft when he ate a sandwhich, but Ed Milliband would be the perfect leader to replace Sir Kier. Three reasons - first, the way he battered Boris at PMQ's, second, he is of Jewish heritage which would hopefully restore Jewish faith in the partys commitment to change, and third he does not share Sir Kiers shame as a member of Corbyns complicit AS regime.

David would be better...

 

[BigOscar]

I know he lost the job last time for looking daft when he ate a sandwhich, but Ed Milliband would be the perfect leader to replace Sir Kier. Three reasons - first, the way he battered Boris at PMQ's, second, he is of Jewish heritage which would hopefully restore Jewish faith in the partys commitment to change, and third he does not share Sir Kiers shame as a member of Corbyns complicit AS regime.

Despite tories and Corbynista's desperately wanting him gone, I really don't see any reason at all for Starmer to go and I very much doubt he will. No one actually thinks he's in league with the crank Corbyn, even if he was on his shadow cabinet. He's repeatedly shown (much to the ire of the cultists) that he isn't part of the Momentum/Corbyn mob. Besides, Starmer is married to a Jewish woman and bringing his kids up Jewish, anyone seriously suggesting he's an anti-Semite are going to have a tough time selling that.

The Corbyn cult are a far bigger problem for Starmer than the Jewish community at this point. (if for nothing else, Jewish people make up a tiny fraction of the population and generally vote Tory anyway, there isn't a particularly large amount of votes to regain there)

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

Despite tories and Corbynista's desperately wanting him gone, I really don't see any reason at all for Starmer to go and I very much doubt he will. No one actually thinks he's in league with the crank Corbyn, even if he was on his shadow cabinet. He's repeatedly shown (much to the ire of the cultists) that he isn't part of the Momentum/Corbyn mob. Besides, Starmer is married to a Jewish woman and bringing his kids up Jewish, anyone seriously suggesting he's an anti-Semite are going to have a tough time selling that.

The Corbyn cult are a far bigger problem for Starmer than the Jewish community at this point. (if for nothing else, Jewish people make up a tiny fraction of the population and generally vote Tory anyway, there isn't a particularly large amount of votes to regain there)

Back in April he described Corbyn as 'my friend' - exactly the same terminology Corbyn used to describe his relationship with Hamas.

 

[BigOscar]

Back in April he described Corbyn as 'my friend' - exactly the same terminology Corbyn used to describe his relationship with Hamas.

Oh wow, that's so damning, he politely called a colleague a friend? Lock him up and take away his Jewish kids, as he clearly hates them.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

Oh wow, that's so damning, he politely called a colleague a friend? Lock him up and take away his Jewish kids, as he clearly hates them.

Either part of the problem or part of the solution. He either thought it was all ok and cheerfully went home to his family after each day working for the Corbyn AS regime, or was ignorant of the issue despite being so close which shows a total lack of the judgement needed to be a serious leader. He had all those years under Corbyn to do something, but in his usual style sat on the fence and now tries to pick a side when the race is won. Probably a nice enough bloke, but weak as water.

 

[bluealf]

Just a quick question for the brains...

If you think Israel is a bit of a **** to Palestine, does this instantly make you an anti-semite?

 

[Fame Monster]

Tbf Starmer was part of the Labour shadow cabinet and could have resigned like others did when he realised Adolf was taking the party in the wrong direction. He's not totally clean in all this.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

Tbf Starmer was part of the Labour shadow cabinet and could have resigned like others did when he realised Adolf was taking the party in the wrong direction. He's not totally clean in all this.

Or he didn't realise, which being so close makes him just as unfit for office.

 

[cookster]

He came within a few thousand votes of being PM in 2017.

Never understood why the right seem to believe he wasn't electable.

He was shafted by staff and officers of his own party for the last 2 years. But yeah, don't let a bit of sabotage get in the way of your narrative.


I despair for this country and its Stockholm syndrome attitude towards being treated like shit. When a fresh alternative appears you'd rather stick with a dry fucking from Etononian idiots.


It's gone now. Time to move forward and see which Dickens novel we all end up reprising next year when the real shit hits the fan.

You seem to have me as a Tory, no chance.

Always been Labour, just not the bitter flavour Corbynski offers.

A few thousand votes within the worse government in decades, some achievement.

 

[Chris in London]

Tbf Starmer was part of the Labour shadow cabinet and could have resigned like others did when he realised Adolf was taking the party in the wrong direction. He's not totally clean in all this.

It this is true it is fortunate for him that standards of what constitutes unacceptable behaviour in the leader of a political party have fallen sharply and rapidly in recent years.