Keir Starmer

Don Karleone said:
I don't disagree with you on that. I fear that Streeting would be quite happy with a privatised NHS as well.

He had the opportunity of a lifetime and decided to carry on with more of the same. He only has himself to blame.
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I see the opposite. Streeting doesn’t want a privatised NHS unless he is a ringer within the Labour Party and Starmer tried to change things but tried to do it it within the realms of the impossible.

We don’t have to agree, and I accept people are vociferous on the issues. Me, my mind is quite analytical and following the information we see, this only ends with Reform getting in and fucking the ‘people’ off.

I suppose I’ll save a few grand a month from paying taxes and move that to my health and welfare insurance instead. Fuck knows what those who need support will do, maybe I could set a tent charity up ;-)
 
johnny crossan said:
Surprising and extremely damaging. Apparently denials are being reported.
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Be interesting to see if a denial is true, would suggest that disinformation is rife and certain elements will lie to get their way.

However, if true, who are the right of the party going for?

Either way, the factions are fractured and we now enter a period of complete chaos.
 
johnny crossan said:
Disgraceful, none of the lefties are remotely fit to be PM - Ange, Burnham, Milliband et al are just big union puppets and this is exactly what they did to Callaghan and Blair.
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All part of it. Labour have always been like this as the infighting tears them apart. Probably because each of their MPs are always thinking how their electorate would vote, thus saving their own careers.

This is politics.
 
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The Future’s Blue! said:
I see the opposite. Streeting doesn’t want a privatised NHS unless he is a ringer within the Labour Party and Starmer tried to change things but tried to do it it within the realms of the impossible.

We don’t have to agree, and I accept people are vociferous on the issues. Me, my mind is quite analytical and following the information we see, this only ends with Reform getting in and fucking the ‘people’ off.

I suppose I’ll save a few grand a month from paying taxes and move that to my health and welfare insurance instead. Fuck knows what those who need support will do, maybe I could set a tent charity up ;-)
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Streeting would have joined the Tories if it meant a chance of the top job.

The eugenics lover is more suited to their me me me philosophy.
 
TinFoilHat said:
Streeting would have joined the Tories if it meant a chance of the top job.

The eugenics lover is more suited to their me me me philosophy.
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Like all those that go into this business, they have their reasons. You have an emotional reason to say that, as you’re coming from an ideological PoV. However, regardless of party, I want to see people who are all over their brief, and Streeting is.

Simple question, are you saying that Streeting is Reform? I need to understand.

As for him being PM, not a chance. He’s a good talker who will back himself up, but he hasn’t got the gravitas to be PM.
 
johnny crossan said:
and tie. The Burnham look is a big mistake.
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Fuck knows who advises these people. Do they seriously believe that the general public are impressed by the open neck, rolled up sleeves, crisp white shirt, I mean business, approach ?
They really don't have a fucking clue.
 
jimharri said:
63 Labour MPs now calling for him to go. That's a not insignificant minority (over 15%). Not sure how he can continue to lead the party, knowing that over 1 in every 7 MPs want him gone. A figure that could likely increase in the coming days.
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Ignore the 6 in 7?
 
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