Santiago Street . said:All he should have to do is win the ball and pass it 5 yards to a more technically accomplished player. If said players aren't showing for the ball, knowing that Joleon is uncomfortable in possession then that's their fault.
On a couple of occasions today MDM gave Lescott a shit pass on his wrong side that made him struggle. If the rest of the team played to his strength's he wouldn't look so uncomfortable.
But to his immense credit he always tries to do the right thing on the ball, if he sees a difficult pass needs to be threaded to gain us an advantage he'll try to do it. He never hides like some of em
Ed2607 said:HolisticJim said:Ed2607 said:What will it take for peligrini to see that currently Lescott is by far the best partner for Vinny .
He was magnificent today
No idea why we have MDM and are letting Lescott go. Pathetic decision.
There's obviously some sort of block how pellers sees them both and if he doesn't start Lescott against Barca then it'll look like he has the same blinded love for MDm that Mancini had for Balo.
Milner, who was superb and 100% committed today, also seems to get the same treatment from pellers which is sad.
Nelly's Left Foot said:Santiago Street . said:All he should have to do is win the ball and pass it 5 yards to a more technically accomplished player. If said players aren't showing for the ball, knowing that Joleon is uncomfortable in possession then that's their fault.
On a couple of occasions today MDM gave Lescott a shit pass on his wrong side that made him struggle. If the rest of the team played to his strength's he wouldn't look so uncomfortable.
But to his immense credit he always tries to do the right thing on the ball, if he sees a difficult pass needs to be threaded to gain us an advantage he'll try to do it. He never hides like some of em
Exactly right.Anyone who gets a shit pass struggles. You would think listening to the Lescott haters that he constantly gives the ball away or gets caught in possession but stats say that's just a myth.
Why does someone have to be a Lescott hater? I think he's quite poor, and one of the slowest defensive passers of the ball, as he has to turn his body to the side to play even a basic pass. He doesn't make many errors as it's not really that difficult to fuck up a 10 yard pass as long as nobody's bearing down on you. This style does not suit the way that the team is going to be playing, and that is why he is not regularly picked.Nelly's Left Foot said:Santiago Street . said:All he should have to do is win the ball and pass it 5 yards to a more technically accomplished player. If said players aren't showing for the ball, knowing that Joleon is uncomfortable in possession then that's their fault.
On a couple of occasions today MDM gave Lescott a shit pass on his wrong side that made him struggle. If the rest of the team played to his strength's he wouldn't look so uncomfortable.
But to his immense credit he always tries to do the right thing on the ball, if he sees a difficult pass needs to be threaded to gain us an advantage he'll try to do it. He never hides like some of em
Exactly right.Anyone who gets a shit pass struggles. You would think listening to the Lescott haters that he constantly gives the ball away or gets caught in possession but stats say that's just a myth.
Thats spot on I rate neither of them ones too slow and the others to cumbersome on the ball, I trust both as much as I trust Boyatasteviemc said:Why does someone have to be a Lescott hater? I think he's quite poor, and one of the slowest defensive passers of the ball, as he has to turn his body to the side to play even a basic pass. He doesn't make many errors as it's not really that difficult to fuck up a 10 yard pass as long as nobody's bearing down on you. This style does not suit the way that the team is going to be playing, and that is why he is not regularly picked.Nelly's Left Foot said:Santiago Street . said:All he should have to do is win the ball and pass it 5 yards to a more technically accomplished player. If said players aren't showing for the ball, knowing that Joleon is uncomfortable in possession then that's their fault.
On a couple of occasions today MDM gave Lescott a shit pass on his wrong side that made him struggle. If the rest of the team played to his strength's he wouldn't look so uncomfortable.
But to his immense credit he always tries to do the right thing on the ball, if he sees a difficult pass needs to be threaded to gain us an advantage he'll try to do it. He never hides like some of em
Exactly right.Anyone who gets a shit pass struggles. You would think listening to the Lescott haters that he constantly gives the ball away or gets caught in possession but stats say that's just a myth.
Demichelis is also quite poor. He's too slow to chase back when playing a higher line, and is also not suitable. He understands the need for a quick outlet ball when playing our current style, and this is why he gets the nod more often than not. He's more of a liability in the tackle than he used to be due to lack of pace, and doesn't have the sharpness he used to possess.
It shouldn't be presumed that you have to be a hater of one or the other. I'll praise anyone if they put in a good shift, as did Lescott today, but the outstanding problem is that neither gives the back line the solidity required when playing a fast tempo pressing game.
citymad said:I wonder who was Vinnys partner for our title winning season and ended up us having one of the best defensive records ?
TrueBlue1705 said:Ed2607 said:HolisticJim said:No idea why we have MDM and are letting Lescott go. Pathetic decision.
There's obviously some sort of block how pellers sees them both and if he doesn't start Lescott against Barca then it'll look like he has the same blinded love for MDm that Mancini had for Balo.
Milner, who was superb and 100% committed today, also seems to get the same treatment from pellers which is sad.
Agree and its becoming a joke now - Why did Milner not start today? ....And Lescott is a a far superior defender to MDM - All said and done it wasn't Barca we were playing today and MDM struggled at times
The joke of all this is I bet MDM will start vs Barca ... If rumours are true it's no wonder English players are getting fooked off because I think neither Milner or Lescott in particular are getting fair treatment - Someone needs to have a word with Pellegrini and tell him to get his f*cking head out of his arse where Demichelis is concerned... Its becoming an embarrassment .... I think its time MDM had 'a rest' just like Hart did when he was dropping clangers on a fairly regular basis!!!
surly he should be a midfielder then... correct me if im wrong but the point of defending is getting the ball away from our net... im not bothered he if smashed it out for a corner or throw in... just get it away from the danger zone, some MD cant do<br /><br />-- Mon Mar 10, 2014 9:58 am --<br /><br />Dipsis_LTU_MC said:Because Demichelis is better with the ball on the ground. Lescott is to clumsy with the ball. Pelegrini doesn't care if Lescott played well or not, Lescott is too clumsy with the ball and that's why he doesn't rate him. Demichelis can make 1000 mistakes but he is better passer and feels more comfortable then he has a ball and for this reason he rates him higher.
surly he should be a midfielder then... correct me if im wrong but the point of defending is getting the ball away from our net... im not bothered he if smashed it out for a corner or throw in... just get it away from the danger zone, some MD cant doDipsis_LTU_MC said:Because Demichelis is better with the ball on the ground. Lescott is to clumsy with the ball. Pelegrini doesn't care if Lescott played well or not, Lescott is too clumsy with the ball and that's why he doesn't rate him. Demichelis can make 1000 mistakes but he is better passer and feels more comfortable then he has a ball and for this reason he rates him higher.