Liverpool fans throwing missiles from South Stand Level 3

Gone for a Burton said:
The actions of the bin dippers on Thursday was entirely predictable and the naivety of the City hierarchy in not anticipating it is a big concern.

Removing 6000 young ,vocal City fans in SS3 and replacing them with 6000 lawless, lethal dippers was asking for trouble which predictably happened.

In military strategy you never concede the high ground !!

The events confirm and reinforce the need for a dedicated high level City end.

Going back to Maine Rd days, City fans were and are sick of having to give our home end away to rival fans. I’m unaware of any other major club who does this, it will always understandably create and increase animosity.

An exclusive City end will prevent many of these issues in the future in addition to (hopefully) consistently improving the atmosphere.

Additionally,in the event of future cup ties opposition fans should be allocated the normal 3 tier side section of seats or SS1. SS2 & 3 should be exclusively for City fans. I can’t see any good reason why this should not be possible and acceptable.

In effect, this will create two City ends, because not everyone in SS will want to relocate to NS but some in SS1 May prefer to move up to SS3 where the acoustics are so much better.

Likewise,some from the ESL singing section may relocate to SS3 in addition to NS2.

One thing is certain away fans must NEVER be allocated SS3 again.
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If my memory serves me well, I can't think of a single incident with any other club where this has been a problem.
 
Elbow beards said:
Can I just say, if any City fan was racially abusing a disabled fan, you are also fucking low life scum and are not welcome at our club, so please fuck off and support someone else.
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It's pretty difficult to comprehend the mental gymnastics that must have been in play to undertake that particular act...............
 
The time for City to make a stand was straight after the coach attack. The game shouldn't have been played for a start.

By City basically doing nothing it made it easier for the press/media to ignore it. The piss poor 17k fine was a joke.

This lack of action by City, authorities, plus Merseyside police not nicking anyone, fed the dippers belief that they are untouchable.
Dippers behaviour is getting worse, got of scot free again at the CL final despite lots of videos of fake tickets and them jibbing in.

By going hand in hand with LFC imo is the wrong way, it makes it look like nothing sets of fans are the same. We arent.

City just look how it's being reported by the dippers loving press/media, it's being twisted against City. Wake up and smell the coffee. City fan gets arrested and ejected, not one dipper arrested or ejected. The most serious incident is being played down in favour of the one City fan shouting abuse at a LFC disable fan ( which is wrong and should have action taken ).

But even in our own statium the dippers were treated differently, got away with things, our own fans lives were in danger yet the club gets into bed with LFC. Lfc are the problem.
Our club our safety officers our risk assessment etc all thought it was safe to put the dippers above our fans. Serious questions need to be ask about these people thinking.
It must have been high risk of injury from thrown objects on the risk assessment so who signed it off ?

City should be sending out their own press/media statement calling out dippers behaviour.

I am not a thug ( to old now ! ) but I feel City actions are pushing some City fans beyond their normal sensible behaviour, by City poor actions in dealing with the dippers. Plus the clubs actions in putting fans lives in danger, because lives were in danger. How giving the dippers ss3 got signed of by the club is beyond me and shows a complete lack of respect to its fans
 
@give it to gordon

Your last paragraph is so true. All I can say is, if nothing happens to the culprits from Thursday night - I wouldn’t want to be a Liverpool fan coming to the Etihad next year.
 
Gone for a Burton said:
The actions of the bin dippers on Thursday was entirely predictable and the naivety of the City hierarchy in not anticipating it is a big concern.

Removing 6000 young ,vocal City fans in SS3 and replacing them with 6000 lawless, lethal dippers was asking for trouble which predictably happened.

In military strategy you never concede the high ground !!

The events confirm and reinforce the need for a dedicated high level City end.

Going back to Maine Rd days, City fans were and are sick of having to give our home end away to rival fans. I’m unaware of any other major club who does this, it will always understandably create and increase animosity.

An exclusive City end will prevent many of these issues in the future in addition to (hopefully) consistently improving the atmosphere.

Additionally,in the event of future cup ties opposition fans should be allocated the normal 3 tier side section of seats or SS1. SS2 & 3 should be exclusively for City fans. I can’t see any good reason why this should not be possible and acceptable.

In effect, this will create two City ends, because not everyone in SS will want to relocate to NS but some in SS1 May prefer to move up to SS3 where the acoustics are so much better.

Likewise,some from the ESL singing section may relocate to SS3 in addition to NS2.

One thing is certain away fans must NEVER be allocated SS3 again.
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See, my problem with this post, mate, is this: it all sounds sensible, and reasonable. And actually, in purely pragmatic terms, you're right.
But what it amounts to is us, the home club, having to adjust to this particular set of away supporters, because of anticipated trouble from them! You're right of course, but for pity's sake, we've had other sets of supporters up there, and not the most angelic at that (weren't Leeds allocated that whole section when we played them in the cup a few years ago, might be wrong). We only have to do this for Liverpool? Not United, not Chelsea, not Arsenal (carry on with the list).See what I'm saying? Why, up and down the country, do clubs have to make special allowances for these people and their pet two-legged rottweilers?
Just one other point. I sure as hell wouldn't put that lot in the north stand. There are kids in there, and families. And these people (and it's not the whole six thousand, let's have it right, but a sizeable and vicious minority who are always, always on standby to behave like shits) are no respecters of minors, children, cf. the fifteen-year-old girl who copped the missile from above her.
In short, why in God's name does the world have to make allowances for LFC and its fans?
 
Gone for a Burton said:
The actions of the bin dippers on Thursday was entirely predictable and the naivety of the City hierarchy in not anticipating it is a big concern.

Removing 6000 young ,vocal City fans in SS3 and replacing them with 6000 lawless, lethal dippers was asking for trouble which predictably happened.

In military strategy you never concede the high ground !!

The events confirm and reinforce the need for a dedicated high level City end.

Going back to Maine Rd days, City fans were and are sick of having to give our home end away to rival fans. I’m unaware of any other major club who does this, it will always understandably create and increase animosity.

An exclusive City end will prevent many of these issues in the future in addition to (hopefully) consistently improving the atmosphere.

Additionally,in the event of future cup ties opposition fans should be allocated the normal 3 tier side section of seats or SS1. SS2 & 3 should be exclusively for City fans. I can’t see any good reason why this should not be possible and acceptable.

In effect, this will create two City ends, because not everyone in SS will want to relocate to NS but some in SS1 May prefer to move up to SS3 where the acoustics are so much better.

Likewise,some from the ESL singing section may relocate to SS3 in addition to NS2.

One thing is certain away fans must NEVER be allocated SS3 again.
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Wasn't debating that, nor do I really disagree. It was more my take on the joint statement.
 
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