Liverpool fans throwing missiles from South Stand Level 3

[Coatigan]

Catching up with this thread and laughing at the coach driver excuse. Forget the discussion about whether or not you have a collection before the end of the journey. How does something that accidentally falls of a third tier ledge end up in the first tier unless it is thrown with some velocity. It has to be a parody account by an Everton fan.

I think we can all agree that was a joke and a bit of a parody.

Which is scary, for Liverpool, that they have become so fucking comical themselves thatbao many can find it properly believable.

 

[Gingers Dad]

Not even got the energy to read @A.J scouser’s new messages. We’ve witnessed more injuries, more violence, and yet I’m sure he’ll find a way to blame it on either City, society, the government, VAR, Chelsea or the Queen.

I’m a nice guy and usually quite patient but seriously, just do one. Today’s not the day.

Apparently it was something to do with Margaret Thatcher singling the Scousers out for mistreatment 40 years ago. That's why they felt the need to indiscriminately pelt the lower tiers of the South Stand with missiles.

 

[give it to gordon]

@give it to gordon

Your last paragraph is so true. All I can say is, if nothing happens to the culprits from Thursday night - I wouldn’t want to be a Liverpool fan coming to the Etihad next year.

I have choose not to come to the last two home games with the dippers because of their behaviour.

Know I feel it's my duty to seriously think about attending in April to stand by my fellow Citys fans.

Good honest citizens can only take so much before we turn

 

[Stoned Rose]

I have choose not to come to the last two home games with the dippers because of their behaviour.

Know I feel it's my duty to seriously think about attending in April to stand by my fellow Citys fans.

Good honest citizens can only take so much before we turn

JCL.

 

[aguero93:20]

It doesn’t actually say that but it does enough to confuse a snarling scouser. Why not say thrown from Liverpool supporters Chelsea supporting Belgian skinheads injuring a city supporter.

Fixed.

 

[JASR]

I hope if the dippers come to the Etihad in April, City put up netting on each side of them to protect our fans.

It should be in the risk assessment

I’d say shove them in the academy stadium with a big screen on the pitch.

Or even better a big screen at klAnfield…

oh wait they can’t put a screen there because it will mean VAR decisions might get scrutinised … and would mean the PL stopping bowing down to one of only two clubs (guess the other…) and enforcing their own rules on having screen(s) in PL grounds.

 

[franksinatra]

What evidence do we have that Liverpool want to move away from it. Remember they have encouraged it.
Maybe now they realise or have been told privately but I think the olive branch has always come from City but I still have not seen any evidence from the club.

The statement from Hil support group is a step forward & welcome but I think they have been just as bad in the past.

I suppose the only evidence is the joint emails and the less explosive comments from Klopp before the match.

Without question the rivalry has been stoked but I doubt people could foresee the current levels of toxicity. Players/managers big up matches to gain a competitive advantage from their support, sadly in this instance its gone a step too far.

 

[Gone for a Burton]

See, my problem with this post, mate, is this: it all sounds sensible, and reasonable. And actually, in purely pragmatic terms, you're right.
But what it amounts to is us, the home club, having to adjust to this particular set of away supporters, because of anticipated trouble from them! You're right of course, but for pity's sake, we've had other sets of supporters up there, and not the most angelic at that (weren't Leeds allocated that whole section when we played them in the cup a few years ago, might be wrong). We only have to do this for Liverpool? Not United, not Chelsea, not Arsenal (carry on with the list).See what I'm saying? Why, up and down the country, do clubs have to make special allowances for these people and their pet two-legged rottweilers?
Just one other point. I sure as hell wouldn't put that lot in the north stand. There are kids in there, and families. And these people (and it's not the whole six thousand, let's have it right, but a sizeable and vicious minority who are always, always on standby to behave like shits) are no respecters of minors, children, cf. the fifteen-year-old girl who copped the missile from above her.
In short, why in God's name does the world have to make allowances for LFC and its fans?

All understood.....perhaps my points were not well made.

These ideas are entirely for the benefit of City fans.

SS & NS Uppers are always dedicated City ends.

SS1 for cup game opposition fans.

Normal SS three tiers for PL games if opposition can sell them.

I don't think I suggested opposition fans in NS.

Hope this clarifys things

 

[Lovebitesandeveryfing]

All understood.....perhaps my points were not well made.

These ideas are entirely for the benefit of City fans.

SS & NS Uppers are always dedicated City ends.

SS1 for cup game opposition fans.

Normal SS three tiers for PL games if opposition can sell them.

I don't think I suggested opposition fans in NS.

Hope this clarifys things

No worries (must have misunderstood about the Family Stand).
I was making a general point, really, about Liverpool's fans and their status not only at the Etihad but up and down the land. Talk to Arsenal fans, to United fans, to Southampton fans. Talk to any other set of fans — they are truly, sincerely hated.
They're not completely alone, by the way. You've got Millwall. But who really cares about Millwall outside of south-east London?

 

[Manchester33]

All understood.....perhaps my points were not well made.

These ideas are entirely for the benefit of City fans.

SS & NS Uppers are always dedicated City ends.

SS1 for cup game opposition fans.

Normal SS three tiers for PL games if opposition can sell them.

I don't think I suggested opposition fans in NS.

Hope this clarifys things

To be honest, there shouldn't be any occasion where opposition fans are above/under each other. I have never seen anything on the levels of Thursday, but there's often the odd coin thrown here and there.


Thursday was something else! Half of the City of Liverpool's GDP ended up in SSL1...

 

[Manchester33]

No worries.
I was making a general point, really, about Liverpool's fans and their status not only at the Etihad but up and down the land.
They're not completely alone, by the way. You've got Millwall. But who really cares about Millwall outside of south-east London?

As far as I'm aware, Millwall has never killed 39 innocent fans.

 

[aguero93:20]

As far as I'm aware, Millwall has never killed 39 innocent fans.

Not all at once anyway.

 

[give it to gordon]

Don’t blame City blame The Sun what they wrote in 1989 gave these rats a free ticket to do what they want ............ you put ANY club in the same incidents that they have caused then it would be a different story ............

I'm not blaming City for the way the dippers behaviour. I feel I have a right to blame City for their poor risk assessment and putting 6k dippers in ss3. Plus joint emails.

Did City really think THEIR fans would be safe ?

 

[hammocity]

Let’s face it. The Beatles were overrated too!

Yep, each to their own but I can’t stand the shite they peddled and I was around in the 60’s, melancholic background music.

 

[PPT]

They can’t split the stand in half because it would mean closing the corporate restaurant/section on SSL2. City wouldn’t want to lose that matchday revenue.

Nail on the head. Send out silly emails before the game to supporters but then put revenue over safety and fan enjoyment (or should I say ‘match day experience’?). So typical of our club nowadays. Money is at the forefront of all decisions made. The normal fans are a nuisance who just get in the way of it all.

 

[urban genie]

The actions of the bin dippers on Thursday was entirely predictable and the naivety of the City hierarchy in not anticipating it is a big concern.

Removing 6000 young ,vocal City fans in SS3 and replacing them with 6000 lawless, lethal dippers was asking for trouble which predictably happened.

In military strategy you never concede the high ground !!

The events confirm and reinforce the need for a dedicated high level City end.

Going back to Maine Rd days, City fans were and are sick of having to give our home end away to rival fans. I’m unaware of any other major club who does this, it will always understandably create and increase animosity.

An exclusive City end will prevent many of these issues in the future in addition to (hopefully) consistently improving the atmosphere.

Additionally,in the event of future cup ties opposition fans should be allocated the normal 3 tier side section of seats or SS1. SS2 & 3 should be exclusively for City fans. I can’t see any good reason why this should not be possible and acceptable.

In effect, this will create two City ends, because not everyone in SS will want to relocate to NS but some in SS1 May prefer to move up to SS3 where the acoustics are so much better.

Likewise,some from the ESL singing section may relocate to SS3 in addition to NS2.

One thing is certain away fans must NEVER be allocated SS3 again.

We have done SSL1 as the cup away end before, in FA Cup, not sure if it became and issue hence why we stopped

I am sure the logistics of entering the ground is a factor and the normal away area or teir 3 are the safer options for entry or exit to police, hence why done.

the normal away offer should be all we give if we need to provide more by using SS3 then the first 4 rows should be unavailable and netted to avoid projectiles.

with the new bar/dj area built in the SSL1 cocourse, it is never gonna be used for away fans again unless the police tell us to so no point expecting it

 

[Chris in London]

Anything from Dominic King who was very vocal appearing on radio and tv stations condemning city fans at the league match.

Funnily enough, nothing at all.

 

[jamesha]

View attachment 64291
Seen some bizarre excuses but this tops it

Devastated because he lost some money? This is complete bollocks - the quotes in the MEN report state that the container contained beer as well as coins. I know dippers are thick but surely even they would not collect coins and notes in a pint mug half full of beer. This is a feeble account at scouse-washing which hopefully will be dismissed by anyone with the sense to check the statements from those on the receiving end.

 

[give it to gordon]

Is there also a point that the marshalls/security feel scared of the dippers ?

A few marshals asking a few 100 dippers to stop throw things its not going to work.

How you control a big crowd that does want to behave I have no idea

 

[Hart of the Matter]

The issue is not where the Liverpool fans were put. The issue is the Liverpool fans. 15 cup matches previously with same arrangements with very few issues.
St James Park Newcastle away fans up in the gods for decades. A few friends sit in the tier below. Very few issues.
It is a Liverpool issue. Not a City issue.