Liverpool thread 2019/20

[Start2finish]

Your only tricky game is Leicester. The rags are dreadful and Spur's not much better. We absolutely pulverised them but let in two soft goals and missed a load of chances, the game should have finished ,6-2.

Definitely true that you should have won that game by a country mile - poor finishing and a shit (albeit technically correct) var decision was all that stopped you getting the 3 points your performance deserved.

Aside from Leicester, my fear is that we'll fuck it up against a United team that is dreadful, just like we did last year. I have an irrational fear of playing spurs, which makes little sense given our recent head to head record.

 

[prestonibbo_mcfc]

I’ve not followed the cases closely but I don’t believe that the UEFA agenda is against City singularly, it’s more towards British clubs as a whole. That said, it shouldn’t be ignored or swept under the carpet. All you can do is try to win matches. Not sure you can blame UEFA for not getting your money back for CSKA, that’s down to the club. You paid them for your tickets surely? It was exceptionally bad luck against Spurs in the CL but the correct decision was made. I’m not a big fan of VAR at all even though decisions have gone for us and against us. Used properly and correctly instead of subjectively and without clear purpose, it’d be great. But the rationale that is used is based on one thing - don’t undermine the referee. Well, if they’ve got it wrong, they need to be undermined. Do it properly or not at all.

ha ha ha. Come on then, show us Liverpool's sob stories. Spurs',Chelsea's, Rags' ?

 

[Kegler Super]

You've made some good points about the CL, and I've had to think about many of them and probably revised my opinion to a small degree. However, you don't seem to be taking on board fully the counter arguments - probably because most are lost in the ranting and bitterness.

Just as a small thing to consider, here's something you said that I don't think you fully appreciate:



It's an invitational showpiece with exclusive access. That's not how I would like to describe what purports to be Europe's top club tournament.

It’s certainly not exclusive access - anybody can play in it as long as you can qualify. Leicester showed everyone that. If you can compete with the cream of your own country, then you’re good enough to compete with the cream from everywhere else. On the subject of invitations, nobody has ever been invited to play in the tournament - qualifiers only.

 

[Start2finish]

You've made some good points about the CL, and I've had to think about many of them and probably revised my opinion to a small degree. However, you don't seem to be taking on board fully the counter arguments - probably because most are lost in the ranting and bitterness.

Just as a small thing to consider, here's something you said that I don't think you fully appreciate:



It's an invitational showpiece with exclusive access. That's not how I would like to describe what purports to be Europe's top club tournament.

Out of interest regarding the last point about an invitational showpiece with exclusive access, can I ask what City fans feel about the various proposals that have been floated around regarding super league with certain places being guaranteed for 20 years without fear of relegation? .

 

[prestonibbo_mcfc]

It’s certainly not exclusive access - anybody can play in it as long as you can qualify. Leicester showed everyone that. If you can compete with the cream of your own country, then you’re good enough to compete with the cream from everywhere else. On the subject of invitations, nobody has ever been invited to play in the tournament - qualifiers only.

The position you finish in, in your respective league earns you that invitation. It's not a given though.

 

[prestonibbo_mcfc]

Out of interest regarding the last point about an invitational showpiece with exclusive access, can I ask what City fans feel about the various proposals that have been floated around regarding super league with certain places being guaranteed for 20 years without fear of relegation? Speaking as a Red whose team (as well as City) were talked about as being one of these guaranteed clubs, I think its a horrendous idea, but I'm curious whether any City fans were in favour? I'm not implying anything in either direction.

Maybe you should've given your opinion later, then.

 

[Start2finish]

It’s certainly not exclusive access - anybody can play in it as long as you can qualify. Leicester showed everyone that. If you can compete with the cream of your own country, then you’re good enough to compete with the cream from everywhere else. On the subject of invitations, nobody has ever been invited to play in the tournament - qualifiers only.

Technically correct but there is a sense of exclusivity when the 4th or 5th place team in England is ranked the same as a champion from another country

 

[Kegler Super]

ha ha ha. Come on then, show us Liverpool's sob stories. Spurs',Chelsea's, Rags' ?

British clubs are never ever getting the benefit of the doubt at UEFA. This has been going on for time immemorial.
My point here would be that I don’t understand why it would be a big deal. Nothing UEFA have said or done have impacted you on the actual field of play, it’s just general sniping at the clubs. They don’t like us and never have. That the English teams are smashing the CL at the moment will be killing them. But if we look at the draw for the CL groups, neither of us have done too badly. Swings and roundabouts.

 

[Start2finish]

Maybe you should've given your opinion later, then.

Edited to remove my opinion

 

[Kegler Super]

Technically correct but there is a sense of exclusivity when the 4th or 5th place team in England is ranked the same as a champion from another country

They’re not ranked the same, that’s why they have different pots and a title winner can be in pot 3 or 4.