Liverpool Thread - 2022/23

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Don't think you can blame Thatcher for manufacturing decline in western countries like the UK .
It happened in all of them, even here in Oz we used to make shit.
Our labour costs can't compete with China and Asia sweat shops.
Thankfully we don't have 13 year olds working 10 hour days.
Thing is we didn't make shit, we built some of the best Petro Chemical columns and heat exchangers in the world with a highly skilled workforce, trouble was it was unionised so she didn't give a flying about it despite it having been the towns biggest employer for over a 110 years. The woman knew the cost of everything and the value of nothing.
 
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Thing is we didn't make shit, we built some of the best Petro Chemical columns and heat exchangers in the world with a highly skilled workforce, trouble was it was unionised so she didn't give a flying about it despite it having been the towns biggest employer for over a 110 years. The woman knew the cost of everything and the value of nothing.
And we used to mass produce Ford, Toyota, GM Holden and Mitsubishi vehicles. Now since 2008, we make precisely.....none.
All those plants were their towns biggest employer and unionised.
Can we blame Thatcher as well please ?
 
And we used to mass produce Ford, Toyota, GM Holden and Mitsubishi vehicles. Now since 2008, we make precisely.....none.
All those plants were their towns biggest employer and unionised.
Can we blame Thatcher as well please ?
Probably your convicts nicking the parts:-), to be fair bunging parts together for foreign car manufacturers is always risky, building non massed produced stuff requires a bit more so shouldn't be if you want to protect the skills within your own nation.
 
Probably your convicts nicking the parts:-), to be fair bunging parts together for foreign car manufacturers is always risky, building non massed produced stuff requires a bit more so shouldn't be if you want to protect the skills within your own nation.
The company I worked for manufactured large close control specialised air conditioners for clean rooms, labs, hospitals, telephone exchanges and data centre's, in fact anywhere where the temp and humidity had to stay within very close tolerances. (Takes a lot of expertise in hot humid tropical countries).
Highly skilled workforce in Sydney. Machines were exported all over Asia. (I was the export sales manager).
Now all manufacturing gone to China.

It's the same everywhere mate, you can't just look at a derelict factory in Hyde and say "Thatcher closed that down"
The world economy closed it down....China and Asia have become the factories of the world. It's just the way things are. Thatcher didn't end the textile industry in the north of England, it was ended before her time, and the rest just followed.
And no I'm not a Thatcherite so please stop having me defend the cow. :)
 
The company I worked for manufactured large close control specialised air conditioners for clean rooms, labs, hospitals, telephone exchanges and data centre's, in fact anywhere where the temp and humidity had to stay within very close tolerances. (Takes a lot of expertise in hot humid tropical countries).
Highly skilled workforce in Sydney. Machines were exported all over Asia. (I was the export sales manager).
Now all manufacturing gone to China.

It's the same everywhere mate, you can't just look at a derelict factory in Hyde and say "Thatcher closed that down"
The world economy closed it down....China and Asia have become the factories of the world. It's just the way things are. Thatcher didn't end the textile industry in the north of England, it was ended before her time, and the rest just followed.
And no I'm not a Thatcherite so please stop having me defend the cow. :)
Why do these threads get overpowered with political stuff? Why not just stick to football?
 
The company I worked for manufactured large close control specialised air conditioners for clean rooms, labs, hospitals, telephone exchanges and data centre's, in fact anywhere where the temp and humidity had to stay within very close tolerances. (Takes a lot of expertise in hot humid tropical countries).
Highly skilled workforce in Sydney. Machines were exported all over Asia. (I was the export sales manager).
Now all manufacturing gone to China.

It's the same everywhere mate, you can't just look at a derelict factory in Hyde and say "Thatcher closed tha down"
The world economy closed it down....China and Asia have become the factories of the world. It's just the way things are. Thatcher didn't end the textile industry in the north of England, it was ended before her time, and the rest just followed.
And no I'm not a Thatcherite so please stop having me defend the cow. :)
Our industry was winding down for sure but she sped it up no end with some very short sighted policies, the skills that were lost are gone probably forever over here now.The factories not derelict is gone along with the 40 acre farm it owned at the side of it, replaced by a huge up market housing estate so you'll know by that it definitely wasn't in Hyde. Old Dan wasn't that daft.
 
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