Liverpool Thread - 2022/23

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SleepingBlueTiger said:
Lots of their old guard is on a downward trajectory. Firmino has been crap for a year now at least, mid-table player at best. Milner runs around and that's pretty much it, does nothing useful footballing wise, Henderson similar. Fabinho aswell isn't stepping up.

If the new signings don't hit the ground running and injury-prone players don't miraculously play 75%+ season then I think title challenge is beyond them.
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Yeah, I don't get the moaning about injuries. They bought Thiago knowing that he's never played over 30 league games in his career (which is why he was so cheap) and then they're moaning that he's injured. Great teams learn to deal with it, especially when it's entirely predictable. It's not as if we haven't had to win titles without KDB, Kompany or Aguero for large parts of a season.

But especially in the midfield, their succession planning hasn't been good. They've got the kids, Jones and Elliot, but other than them, everyone's over 27. And of the players they've brought in to be the longer-term replacements for Henderson, Milner and Wijnaldum, only Fabinho has really shown he's at the right standard. There's also the issue that these over-30s players were never world class. It's one thing to have a 31 year-old KDB or Mahrez (or Salah), but it's quite another to have players like Henderson and Milner, who were always more reliant on the physical side of their game rather than their footballing talent.

They've seemingly started to rebuild their forward line and they've brought in Konate who should give them a lot of years at the back if he reaches the standard they hope. But the midfield is badly in need of investment.
 
I'd be cautious to say they've lost their mojo, but that midfield they put out was pathetic. And Virgil van Dick looking like a shadow of his former self.
 
117 M34 said:
Remember the season when klopp's dortmund fell apart and they were in the bottom half. Would be nice if same thing happened again this season.
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I remember it well. At the time Klopp was shown to be a one trick pony. He didn't have any alternative plan and eventually simply gave up and left. Will be interesting to see how this pans out.
 
117 M34 said:
Remember the season when klopp's dortmund fell apart and they were in the bottom half. Would be nice if same thing happened again this season.
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People on here (including me) have been saying for ages theres only so many years you can run your side into the ground playing "heavy metal" football before the team starts falling apart.

Ageing squad, not strengthening in the right areas and relying on individual brilliance to get you out of trouble.

That's the difference between Pep and Bingo.

Pep knows when to refresh the squad and when to tweak his tatcics to suit the team.

Bingo relies on the same players for years and never changes his tatcics.

Liverpool are not the force they once were and savvy managers in the league will see this and exploit it
 
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