Liverpool Thread - 2022/23

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Prestwich_Blue said:
I don't see an upside at Liverpool, certainly not at the £3bn level. Their realistic valuation is probably half that on an objective basis. Sheikh Mansour, Malcolm Glazer, FSG, PIF etc., all saw an undervalued asset that could produce a significant return.

There'd maybe some room to grow Liverpool's commercial income, which doesn't reflect what they think their global popularity is. But as I said earlier in the thread, there's maybe more downside and, as a buyer, I'd be pricing that in. No one is going to rush in until it's clear whether they'll be in the CL next season. FSG may come to regret not selling in the summer.
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Same, inflation aside I think they've fairly peaked for the next decade. Bad time to sell imo. Not an expert though.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
As I understand it, Abu Dhabi is "old money", as they have more of the natural resources whereas Dubai doesn't have as much of those. I'd also say that Abu Dhabi appears to be the more outward looking of the two, as far as global alliances and trade are concerned.

However it's a delicate balancing act as Sheikh Mohammed bin Rashid Al Maktoum of Dubai is UAE Prime Minister and Vice President, with Sheikh Mansour being Deputy PM (and his son in law). Sheikh Mohammed bin Zayed Al Nahyan (MBZ) is President of the UAE. I'm not sure that would stop them buying Liverpool though. I could see them have having a bit of fun at family gatherings if Dubai's Sheikh Mohammed owned Liverpool.

But people talking about this or that potential billionaire owner are forgetting about FFP. We had about 3 years of unrestricted spending before it kicked in, plus we've leveraged Abu Dhabi's business relationships brilliantly to increase our commercial income.
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And also return on investment, at the amounts being mentioned. If they are buying at the top with limited potential to increase value, surely that would be "sportswashing", wouldn't it?
 
SWP's back said:
Quite the opposite sadly, a weak pound makes it more likely they hit £4bn and the type of people that spend that amount of money aren’t worried about their mortgages increasing to 6% or their electricity bill.
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Well reports this morning it’s 3b there asking for so dropped a billion in 24 hours! Also reports say they put out a brochure last month to interested parties! Funny no news on that after a month! Think it will take a year or two! One plus for them the media will do all the lip service for them talking them up to high heaven saying it’s a bargain at 3b.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
I don't see an upside at Liverpool, certainly not at the £3bn level. Their realistic valuation is probably half that on an objective basis. Sheikh Mansour, Malcolm Glazer, FSG, PIF etc., all saw an undervalued asset that could produce a significant return.

There'd maybe some room to grow Liverpool's commercial income, which doesn't reflect what they think their global popularity is. But as I said earlier in the thread, there's maybe more downside and, as a buyer, I'd be pricing that in. No one is going to rush in until it's clear whether they'll be in the CL next season. FSG may come to regret not selling in the summer.
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Especially when they are a Giro State, although they could call themselves Ali Babba and the 4M thieves.
 
Can’t see who would want to buy them.
Hardly there to build up as they are already a big club
Will cost a fortune and it’s hardly a great investment as they look like they have maximised their value under FSG.
And there aren’t any billionaire dipper fans because they all have such a high social conscious they give all their money to the homeless!
Let’s hope they stay in limbo for a year or two
 
give it to gordon said:
I find the price the owners want abit odd.

One premier league in 30 odd years. No room to expand the facilities much. An old squad. Odd fan base.

How would anyone recoup their 3 billion investment ?
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What American owners do is borrow the money the repayments are usually low enough that they can use the clubs as a cash cow as the glazers and FSG have done! Now Liverpool have peaked Klopp coming to the end there! Also the interest rates situation FSG see they will have to put there hands in their own pockets they want to sell or are looking for investment because of that!
 
waspish said:
What American owners do is borrow the money the repayments are usually low enough that they can use the clubs as a cash cow as the glazers and FSG have done! Now Liverpool have peaked Klopp coming to the end there! Also the interest rates situation FSG see they will have to put there hands in their own pockets they want to sell or are looking for investment because of that!
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I get that !! Its the value on LFC I dont get.

The new owners spend 3 billion to buy them and than still have money to invest. I just dont see it.

To invest 3 billion you are going to want to see a return I would have thought
 
give it to gordon said:
I get that !! Its the value on LFC I dont get.

The new owners spend 3 billion to buy them and than still have money to invest. I just dont see it.
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Agree just because in todays climate and interest rates borrowing that much money plus Liverpool turnover it going to work! Just pointing out why American by clubs. It’s like our owner who is worth 18/20b would be spend 1/6th of his wealth in a football club? Nahh!

Chelsea is an interesting purchase they very rarely make a profit and they paid well over the odds! I feel they’ll be in some mega shit in the next 1/2 years..
 
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