Manchester’s Changing Skyline

[jrb]

We had a couple of developers bring schemes in Manchester East (Mayfield area), only to have lenders decline on grounds of it being too much of a regeneration area, and a feeling Manchester could be saturated. These photos in the last few months seem to contradict that opinion. I personally feel it's going to carry on for the foreseeable. Just seen the latest Downing project at First Street - it's on a different scale - £400m and 1.800 units!

Yeah. East Village, not far from Mayfield, seems to be doing well.

Downing Living - First Street

I was a bit concerned by the CGI’s, but I’ve posted pictures of the glass cladding and it looks good, so I’m not overly concerned now.


Funding secured.

Downing secures £227m loan for Manchester cluster - Place North West

A newly-formed partnership between Precede Capital and QuadReal Property Group, supported by Japanese bank Nomura, will fund the construction of a cluster of co-living towers at First Street.

www.placenorthwest.co.uk

Renaker looking for funding for Trinity Islands and Bankside.

Renaker seeks £120m GMCA loan for two towers - Place North West

A 55-storey skyscraper that forms part of the four-tower Trinity Islands cluster and the 444-apartment Bankside in Salford’s Greengate neighbourhood are in line to benefit from public cash.

www.placenorthwest.co.uk

 

[Deleted member 77198]

Not exactly related to this thread but a point of interest around it…

Already since the 2021 census, it is estimated that Greater Manchester’s population is 3,028,104.



In the 2021 census, Greater Manchester’s population had increased by 6.9% (185,272) to 2,867,800 in ten years. That was the largest population rise in the country.

Manchester’s population increased by 9.7% (48,800) to 551,900 in that time, Salford’s by 15.4% (36,000) to 269,900.

In 2004, just over 10,000 people lived in the city centre. Now just over 70,000 people do.

And, for me, you can feel all of that. I think we have too much traffic and not enough public transport. I find the roads are too busy even in the through the day outside rush-hours, when twenty years ago I used to find early afternoon comparatively quiet on the roads.

Lots of traffic in the city centre too.

 

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[jrb]

Not exactly related to this thread but a point of interest around it…

Already since the 2021 census, it is estimated that Greater Manchester’s population is 3,028,104.

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In the 2021 census, Greater Manchester’s population had increased by 6.9% (185,272) to 2,867,800 in ten years. That was the largest population rise in the country.

Manchester’s population increased by 9.7% (48,800) to 551,900 in that time, Salford’s by 15.4% (36,000) to 269,900.

In 2004, just over 10,000 people lived in the city centre. Now just over 70,000 people do.

To go up another 18,202 since that last census shows that the increase rate is steady and still in a rocket straight line since 2011.

And, for me, you can feel all of that. I think we have too much traffic and not enough public transport. I find the roads are too busy even in the through the day outside rush-hours, when twenty years ago I used to find early afternoon comparatively quiet on the roads.

Lots of traffic in the city centre too.

Was in town on Sunday before the match. The roads were rammed with vechicles, especially on Great Ancoats Street. The city centre roads are grinding to a halt. They weren’t built for so many vechicles. See the picture below. Traffic on Deansgate.

manchester_skyline - Instagram

 

[somapop]

The city changed rapidly over the past few years & in all directions.

Had a wander around Greengate over the weekend…wasn’t that long ago this was barren, but it’s now beginning to thrive..

 

[Deleted member 77198]

Was in town on Sunday before the match. The roads were rammed with vechicles, especially on Great Ancoats Street. The city centre roads are grinding to a halt. They weren’t built for so many vechicles. See the picture below. Traffic on Deansgate.

manchester_skyline - Instagram

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The traffic (and it’s fumes) makes the air feel dirty and makes the buildings filthy n’all.

Even new builds haven’t taken long to get dirty. Have a close-up look at those stone buildings built in St Peter’s Square no more than six years ago - proper dirty already. In another decade they’ll be dark in colour.

We have the worst air pollution in the country and have topped the worst for the whole of Europe:

Manchester air pollution briefly tops European table | GC Business Growth Hub

Air quality in Manchester was temporarily the lowest in Western Europe on 8 September, just days before an EU financial watchdog warned that governments were failing to take sufficient action.

www.businessgrowthhub.com

Even during the 2020 lockdowns when barely anyone was out and about, our air pollution was classed as dangerously and illegally high:

Pollution levels in Manchester remain dangerously high despite lockdown, smart air quality sensors show

Headline | ClientEarth

View the press release

www.clientearth.org

And it affects our mortality:

Air pollution linked to 1 in 23 deaths in Greater Manchester

Some 923 deaths in Greater Manchester in 2017 were related to long-term exposure to polluted air, according to research by Centre for Cities.

www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk

People in Manchester 'exposed to dangerous levels of air pollution'

Report finds life expectancy in region reduced by average of six months due to pollution

amp.theguardian.com

 

[jrb]

If anyone is interested. See my post. #11,145

Etihad Campus, Stadium and Collar Site Development Thread

There won't be any residential blocks on the collar site, they want a 24/7 destination whatever that may entail. All around the site, yes, just not on it. I never said there would in fact I was saying the opposite

forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk

 

[jrb]

greggwolstenholme - Instagram

 

[bluemcr]

The traffic (and it’s fumes) makes the air feel dirty and makes the buildings filthy n’all.

Even new builds haven’t taken long to get dirty. Have a close-up look at those stone buildings built in St Peter’s Square no more than six years ago - proper dirty already. In another decade they’ll be dark in colour.

We have the worst air pollution in the country and have topped the worst for the whole of Europe:

Manchester air pollution briefly tops European table | GC Business Growth Hub

Air quality in Manchester was temporarily the lowest in Western Europe on 8 September, just days before an EU financial watchdog warned that governments were failing to take sufficient action.

www.businessgrowthhub.com

Even during the 2020 lockdowns when barely anyone was out and about, our air pollution was classed as dangerously and illegally high:

Pollution levels in Manchester remain dangerously high despite lockdown, smart air quality sensors show

Headline | ClientEarth

View the press release

www.clientearth.org

And it affects our mortality:

Air pollution linked to 1 in 23 deaths in Greater Manchester

Some 923 deaths in Greater Manchester in 2017 were related to long-term exposure to polluted air, according to research by Centre for Cities.

www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk

People in Manchester 'exposed to dangerous levels of air pollution'

Report finds life expectancy in region reduced by average of six months due to pollution

amp.theguardian.com

Good info it's absolutely shocking. You can taste the fumes around the suburbs aswell.

 

[jrb]

Island - 10 stories - City Centre/John Dalton Street





Beckie Joyce - Linkedin

 

[Worsleyweb]

Demand for the apartments remains high. Rents at record highs. The sky line is going to continue to grow hugely in the next ten years and the spread of the city centre will continue towards the Etihad, Strangeways, Rochdale road Old Trafford. Some great designs about to be announced.

 

[Blue Maverick]

Demand for the apartments remains high. Rents at record highs. The sky line is going to continue to grow hugely in the next ten years and the spread of the city centre will continue towards the Etihad, Strangeways, Rochdale road Old Trafford. Some great designs about to be announced.

Who the hell is renting/buying them at those prices are they big overseas buyers? I wouldn’t touch one with a barge pole with the maintenance charges etc, until those fIrms sort out the cladding on the other buildingsI wouldn’t let them build either.

 

[Blue Maverick]

The traffic (and it’s fumes) makes the air feel dirty and makes the buildings filthy n’all.

Even new builds haven’t taken long to get dirty. Have a close-up look at those stone buildings built in St Peter’s Square no more than six years ago - proper dirty already. In another decade they’ll be dark in colour.

We have the worst air pollution in the country and have topped the worst for the whole of Europe:

Manchester air pollution briefly tops European table | GC Business Growth Hub

Air quality in Manchester was temporarily the lowest in Western Europe on 8 September, just days before an EU financial watchdog warned that governments were failing to take sufficient action.

www.businessgrowthhub.com

Even during the 2020 lockdowns when barely anyone was out and about, our air pollution was classed as dangerously and illegally high:

Pollution levels in Manchester remain dangerously high despite lockdown, smart air quality sensors show

Headline | ClientEarth

View the press release

www.clientearth.org

And it affects our mortality:

Air pollution linked to 1 in 23 deaths in Greater Manchester

Some 923 deaths in Greater Manchester in 2017 were related to long-term exposure to polluted air, according to research by Centre for Cities.

www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk

People in Manchester 'exposed to dangerous levels of air pollution'

Report finds life expectancy in region reduced by average of six months due to pollution

amp.theguardian.com

Until there is a viable alternative what can people do? Instead of HS2 they should’ve given us a few billion to put electric buses and more trams in, build proper cycle lanes for commuting. Instead they are going to try and make us pay with this clean air zone bollocks, knowing full well no one can afford to upgrade their vans etc except at huge costs. It’s all full and well for London as their public transport is brilliant, ours is shite and expensive. If they want to do something with the clean air tax, make the buses and trams free with the cash, let’s see how many use them then, because it’s still cheaper to use your car to get to the city centre with the family.

 

[jrb]

Reayworld - Instagram

That’s some cluster of towers on Great Jackson Street. Ready to grown with a few more Renaker towers in the future.

Note the empty derelict pier on the left.

It’s the site for the proposed Cotton Quay development that sadly hasn’t started yet. And doesn’t look like it will do. See the video below. The development had everything, even an lido.



The property developer is Drogmore Property.

Cotton Quay, Salford Quays, Greater Manchester - Frogmore

Frogmore has successfully achieved planning permission for Cotton Quay and associated S106 legal agreement for 1,493 residential units and 475 hotel bed spaces, c.31,500 sq. ft. of commercial space, a harbour bath and multi-storey car park with rooftop playground and climbing wall. The new...

www.frogmore.co.uk

The Architects are Studio Egert West.

Cotton Quay

Cotton Quay is set to bolster Salford's thriving visitor economy and deliver much-needed new homes in a sustainable and accessible location.

studioegretwest.com

 

[Fat Chance]

Millions spent on gt anc st and no cycle lane...couldnt put the trees down the centre cause they discovered services there when commencing work..what a wank...token trees to one side then the other with all buildings pressed up to the pavement edge to ensure a fume trap akin to how it always was...but new.

 

[jrb]

Millions spent on gt anc st and no cycle lane...couldnt put the trees down the centre cause they discovered services there when commencing work..what a wank...token trees to one side then the other with all buildings pressed up to the pavement edge to ensure a fume trap akin to how it always was...but new.

Don’t forget the tarmac. ;-)

This is what it should have looked like.



But.

Unmapped utilities', a new 'water feature' and flooding​

When the main phase of work eventually got underway in 2020, the scheme hit a series of glitches.

First, the contractor discovered 'unmapped utilities' beneath the road, right at the spot where it had been intended the new trees would be planted.

The issue went publicly undisclosed for several weeks before residents realised fresh tarmac had been laid where they had been expecting spring blossom.

 

[Deleted member 77198]

^Typical City

 

[york away to this!]

Trees in tubs, surely?

 

[jrb]

Plot 9 - Office Block - 9 stories - First Street

Property developer Ask Real Estate (Ask) has announced the appointment of main contractor BAM to deliver the next phase of office development at First Street in Manchester City Centre.​

Pension Insurance Corporation (PIC), a specialist insurer of defined benefit pension funds, has invested £105 million to forward fund the new 130,900 sq ft net zero in operation office.

It was announced in August last year that the Government Property Agency (GPA) has taken a 25-year lease on the entire building which will accommodate around 2,500 staff. It is expected that £31m in economic benefits will be generated by the relocation from London to Manchester of over 700 civil service roles, which forms part of the Government’s Places for Growth initiative.

Ask Real Estate appoints BAM as main contractor for expansion of First Street Estate

Property developer Ask Real Estate (Ask) has announced the appointment of main contractor BAM to deliver the next phase of office development at First Street in Manchester City Centre.

ukandireland.bam.com

More CGI’s, photographs, and information via the John Matthews Architects link below.

Jon Matthews Architects

Jon Matthews Architects

www.jonmatthewsarchitects.com

Brendan Hester - Linkedin

The final push to complete the 5m+ Reduce Level Dig and low level pile mat installation for a new development in the centre of Manchester.

 

[jrb]

I’ve enlarged the original pictures. Slightly blurred.


Daisy Webber - Linkedin

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