Mancini (cont)

[80s Shorts]

Good riddance to her...

This sort of attitude simply displays the incredible arrogance and narrow mindedness that exists in this thread.

Well it's Blue Heaven next ... I guess it'll be one of me, you, or Dave, after that. From there who knows. If they keep banning people based on their nationality/opinion of Mancini then I think one day the likes of Sam will get the forum he's always dreamed of!

Anyway Britney, when are you going to tell us all these terrible things our Bobby has done that are going to lead to his demise.

Cant b arsed trawling through your posts but im sure a few of us remember.


It sounded very juicy.

What on earth has he done ?<br /><br />-- Tue Apr 16, 2013 11:16 pm --<br /><br />

Here endeth the thread.

It will not end, unfortunately. However, that was a statement without words.

 

[George Hannah]

The significance of them all wearing different ties has not gone unnoticed among the cognoscenti on here.

 

[nehe11]

Here endeth the thread.

Strange
that looks more like a picture of your bosses
making sure you don't fuck up.

Haha

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

I'm sure I've seen that sort of body language somewhere before:

 

[The Flash]

Here endeth the thread.

Strange
that looks more like a picture of your bosses
making sure you don't fuck up.

My bosses?

I fucking wish they were.

 

[Blue Heaven]

Aren't you bored with same old argument? Events should surely at the very worst have put this debate on hold. Credit to the main protagonists for giving a bit of credit to Mancini for his part in the last fortnight. He certainly got the better of Benitez at Wembley who in the words of Eden hazard had his team playing frightened football instead of playing to their strengths.

We've got a game tomorrow, and an FA Cup Final to plan for. Got to be more interesting in re-hashing old discussion

bored of all the sniping at mancini but this photo had to be commented on.the guys saying the silence from the owner means he is not supported but i think this photo speaks volumes

Well, it's three gents, standing next to each other. Evidently, it's also a sort of Rorschach test for anyone and everyone in this thead...!

 

[Blue Heaven]

How many other clubs linked with a possible new manager come out and deny it ??

If City had to deny everything that was written about them there would be no time for football.

Considering the amount of hand wringing and whining from you alone about the managers being linked with the City job, it would be remiss of me to not at least point out that City could easily quash the speculation. Whether you like it or not, the reason City haven't is because they don't want to - which is why we've had players saying they have no idea if Mancini will stay, and Mancini pleading his case via the media about how his players have let him down, the board let him down last summer etc.

Plenty of arguments to support Mancini getting another season IMO- but not many if any credible ones for the wall of silence that has been put up by City with regards to the manager's future. When even the players are being kept in the dark IMO that can only mean at the very least his future is being considered and isn't at all assured.

I said this before but I can only recall two incidences of City under ADUG publicly backing the manager. The first was Hughes via Cook shortly before they sacked him - not the greatest precedent. The second was around last October when they said that the appointment of Ferran & Txiki did not mean they were intending to replace Mancini with Pep. And we know how well that worked.

During his first half season we had countless stories about how Mancini was going to be replaced in the summer and he was only a stop gap appointment. No one at the club denied this or said anything publicly to stop the speculation. We were told Mancini's only chance at staying for the following season was a top 4 spot and it was still only a chance with no guarantees. We didn't get a top 4 spot and Mancini (gasp) wasn't moved on as everyone confidently predicted.

Next season was the same. Football was crap. Players hated him. Should be challenging for the title. Mourinho was set to replace him (also Capello at one point) and City didn't say one damn word. No vote of confidence. No Mancini is here for the long term. Nothing. Squat. Mancini stayed.

Title winning season nothing public except a brief comment during a low point from Sheikh Mansour who said Mancini was doing a good job and would be retained if we finished second. No one was convinced and even Roberto figured it would be prudent to look at alternative options just in case it went totally tits up. Which it did. For Man U.

So now its the summer of 2012 and its a 5 year contract and (quelle surprise) 3 months later we had Mancini to be replaced by Pep and after Pep it was (insert name of choice).

In 3 and a half years of Mancini's tenure the media have continually speculated that he is on the verge of being sacked or, just to vary things up, on the verge of walking out. City by contrast have kept their own counsel.

We can all read what we want into the silence. The media certainly do and seem to be continually disappointed we don't run around sacking managers every 6 months so that they can run endless stories about rich foreigners not understanding the game yada, yada but the silence means nothing with regard to Mancini staying or going. Just as statements backing the manager mean nothing. Just ask Mark Hughes.

Strangely enough, Bob, I fully agree with this. It's just posters from each side of the divide here drawing conclusions that cannot be supported except by their own mental machinations. It would be better if we all debated actual events, quotations, etc.<br /><br />-- Tue Apr 16, 2013 4:24 pm --<br /><br />

Ignored the salient parts..I try to ignore all of it..;)

Haha. I have to laugh. First you quote my post and try and debunk what I've said. When I reply and once again you've got little left in the empty tank you start squawking about me being a liar and an old woman. Classic deflection Sam.

little left in the empty tank ?? class.

-- Tue Apr 16, 2013 3:02 pm --

Banned?

Skashion likes this.

Blue Heaven next..

Ahhh, Sam, you're no different than the annoying players who jump up after a perceived foul and then wave an imaginary card in the referee's face. Still smarting because I got the better of you the other day, I see. Give it a rest...

 

[Blue Heaven]

Or you could just spare us the bullshit and explain why you said you were more than happy with our progress under Mancini, but do nothing but highlight the negatives and slag his achievements.

FWIW the statement said "We are ambitious for the club, like you, but not unreasonably so and we understand it takes time to build a team capable of sustaining a presence in the top four of the Premier League and winning European honours."

So I'm not sure how my evidence has proven my own claims are wrong. Progress isn't mentioned in the quote, you've made that up. A timeframe isn't given in that quote, you've made one up.

This is the kind of bullshit that is produced when you allow your perceptions to rule your mentality. You have somehow conjured up that because I have to try and show that, yes there are reasons to consider a new manager, that I do nothing but slag off his achievements. Its unreal.

First of all, I've never claimed there was a timeframe, therefore you made up the notion that I made up a timeframe. Second of all, Europe is listed as a goal. Generally speaking, if I pay large sums of money in an attempt to achieve a goal, I'd expect some measure of progress. There was no timeframe for getting into Europe for Hughes, yet they say no progress in the matter and sacked him. Khaldoon expressed that sentiment in almost the same words.

As someone tried to mistakenly reason, simply doing well domestically and inherently moving into the CL doesn't mean we've actually improved our game in Europe.

But if you want the obvious positives (that we all fucking know anyways), Mancini was hired (to much criticism from the rag media), and was immediately attributed false rumors. The motherfucking scum who said he was in the stands watching just before Hughes was sacked? Part and parcel of the bullshit he immediately had to deal with. He then took a team that was faltering and, but for a lucky touch from the giant stick man, would have gotten us straight into the CL.

He immediately started to improve his English (something many managers couldn't be fucked to try). He got us into 3rd place, but for GD would have been second in only a year and a half, and won the FA cup. That's something few managers could have achieved. This, among non-stop media negativity.

He then took our team of newly assembled egos and won the league. Yes it was close, and yes it was mostly due to United slipping up, but he found a formula of players, media manipulation, and motivation to win 6 matches on the trot.

He's becoming part of the club in a way that no manager has done since my parents were in college. He's a fucking blue.



But NONE of that will change the fact that he has not proven he can handle European competition. He has had two different MASSIVE squads with two different clubs and has failed in every attempt, even in the Europa League. If he is sacked, that will be why. He has made several mistakes domestically, but with Europe not even a factor, he'd be largely faultless up till now. The club sacked Hughes because he wasn't even on track to get us into the CL in several years (probably ever). Now we're seeing signs that Mancini is going to have difficulty getting us past the group stages.

-- Tue Apr 16, 2013 8:42 am --

Shearings Dave and Billy's Diddums are one and the same and conspicuous by their absence today!

You seem like a detestable WUM and I will happily state it. Why? Because anyone with a modicum of intelligence wouldn't come on a City forum with the word 'red' in their username.

Even if you try and make some tenuous link to Danzig, it is a failure. I am going to stalk you. I want your hate. I will earn it. Yum yum!!

So let's compile a list.

I'm a city fan, but according to about 10 people on this forum, I'm one of the following:


-A Journalist (HAHAHA!)
-An Arsenal fan (how fuck did that even pop into anyone's mind?)
-Hate Mancini (despite the fact that I have the utmost respect for the man)
-I'm two other people (Who I don't even know)
-A rag because the username I've had since the mid-90's for the internet has the word red in it, despite the name starting off as an intentional misspelling of "De-Thread". (and its downright mentally handicapped to think it means anything different)

I'm interested in what else I can become today. I'm shooting for Astronaut.

Surely you're not going to pay an extortionate fee to Richard Branson?!

-- Tue Apr 16, 2013 4:30 pm --

How many other clubs linked with a possible new manager come out and deny it ??

If City had to deny everything that was written about them there would be no time for football.

Considering the amount of hand wringing and whining from you alone about the managers being linked with the City job, it would be remiss of me to not at least point out that City could easily quash the speculation. Whether you like it or not, the reason City haven't is because they don't want to - which is why we've had players saying they have no idea if Mancini will stay, and Mancini pleading his case via the media about how his players have let him down, the board let him down last summer etc.

Plenty of arguments to support Mancini getting another season IMO- but not many if any credible ones for the wall of silence that has been put up by City with regards to the manager's future. When even the players are being kept in the dark IMO that can only mean at the very least his future is being considered and isn't at all assured.

Billy liar..has a ring to it.:) Dont you get fed up posting shite about people that you cant back up ?? Find one post about me refering to other managers..

And try not to get all hissy as usual... you old woman.

If you insist on calling other posters insulting names, why wouldn't we refer to you as "SHamHarris" or "ShamedHarris" or something like that?

 

[Yaya_Tony]

Said it as soon as I saw them stood together.

No need for votes of confidence, press statements etc etc.

This says it all.

In your opinion.

To others it's just three men looking at some grass.

;)

What they were actually looking at is the Manchester City team warming up to take a place in the 2nd FA Cup final in 3 years.

Others might see it as a show of solidarity, without leaking any quotes to the press. Khaldoon and Soriano didn't have to stand on the pitch with Mancini, did they?

 

[coulsonblue]

Mancini, Khaldoon & Soriano were all chatting before the game. It just so happens that when the ITV camera got them, they had stopped chatting and were focused watching the warm-ups.