NipHolmes said:tolmie's hairdoo said:moomba said:I think it was more that it wasn't resulting on us being any more effective going forward.
As I said I don't think we were any worse with a back three than any other part of the night.
Okay, that's your view- it's wrong - but we'll leave it there ;)
To take my issue with three at the back forward, why does Mancini continue to believe he has the personnel to deploy it effectively?
Outside of the FA Cup defeat to United last season, it has been shambolic.
I can see why Ajax were able to pick it apart during another crazy few minutes.
Mancini is a fool to continue with it, it's kamikaze. When we play an attacking mentality with a 4-2-3-1 we play best, the 'shackles off' term.
---------------------------Hart-----------------------------
Zaba------------Kompany----------Nasty--------------Clichy
-------------------Milner--------Barry-----------------------
-------------------------Yaya-------------------------------
----------Tevez---------------------------Silva-------------
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That's us at our best imo.
bluwes said:tolmie's hairdoo said:Drawing: Bayern, Dortmund and Real Madrid in the Champs League = unlucky
Drawing: Watford, Stoke, Leeds, Barnsley and Wigan = not lucky
Excuse me, sorry to interrupt, but you missed out Chelsea
George Hannah said:bad luck is simply the absence of good luck and vice versatolmie's hairdoo said:Drawing: Watford, Stoke, Leeds, Barnsley and Wigan = not lucky
then you're all lucked outsamharris said:What if you have them both at the same time ??George Hannah said:bad luck is simply the absence of good luck and vice versatolmie's hairdoo said:Drawing: Watford, Stoke, Leeds, Barnsley and Wigan = not lucky
FantasyIreland said:Mancini's long term no.1 target,Cavani,according to reports in the Mail,is close to agreeing terms......
Cavani is obviously top notch and a player any manager would want,however,is this is a good indicator that Bob will be here next season?
It's neither. Until we've got a signature it's just another rumour. The decision about the manager was "made months ago, subject to end of season review", apart from the 5 yr contract and all that...FantasyIreland said:Mancini's long term no.1 target,Cavani,according to reports in the Mail,is close to agreeing terms......
Cavani is obviously top notch and a player any manager would want,however,is this is a good indicator that Bob will be here next season?
Can't agree with that mate, not at all. If we'd had a real decline, steep or shallow, we wouldn't have won the league, we wouldn't have shamed the rags and Chelsea in a week, we wouldn't be above 18 other teams.BillyShears said:Yaya_Tony said:Better the devil you know for the outers, for the inners, well we were and are behind him anyway. Because in the view of many he has been the catalyst between the money and the success.
Possibly he was the catalyst between the money and pushing City into the upper echelons of our domestic league and picking up a domestic trophy too. However for some of us he has also reached a peak with this team - dare I say it we probably peaked between Aug/Dec 2011, and since then we've been on somewhat of a gradual decline. Not a steep decline, nor a catastrophic one, but certainly a gradual decline in results and performances both individually and collectively, hence we haven't gotten any further in Europe and haven't managed to keep up with the rags in the league.
I don't think that anyone is doing that anymore, I feel the club is acutely aware that the club cannot rely on previous recent glory, it took this season to learn it as a lesson but so be it. His desire to go back to Italy though, is this something you know as absolute fact?For the future I don't think anyone at City will be resting on their laurels and thinking that Mancini's fire proof and looking at other managers will be folly. They will be fully aware of his own desire to return to Italy in the coming years.
I didn't mock him. I'm sure he is a fine tactician. He is not an improvement on what we have now though, either. If he did replace Mancini, which I hope does not happen, the minimum results I would expect are Mancini's. 2 cup finals and a league title, in 3 full years. The only option that this criteria gives any new incumbent, is improvement in the CL. My own take on that is give Mancini more time to develop the football side of our club, the side will be built to cope with the challenge of European matches.On Pellegrini - I understand it becomes very easy to mock him because he hasn't won trophies in Europe - but arguably the only time he had the resources was at Madrid and he was up against this Barcelona team when it was peaking. I certainly would have no problem if he is indeed Txiki's ideal candidate to replace Mancini either this summer or next.
moomba said:tolmie's hairdoo said:moomba said:47.6%, 50% and 52.5%
I know it's about winning trophies and not winning percentage, but thought it interesting the see the win percentage of Mourinho, Benitez and Mancini at Inter.
Any guesses which is which?
I would hazard a guess Mancini has the highest win percentage based on the fact he was longer at the club than the other two put together.
Nice try, though!
Like I said, the aim of the game is winning trophies, not win percentage. Just thought it was an interesting stat. And yes, Mancini does have the highest percentage, followed by Rafa, followed by Jose.
I think, and I'm just guessing, moomba means in tangible terms trophies are a good indicator of managerial capability, but in real terms winning more matches means you're better, and Mancini has a better win %age at Inter over Rafa and Mourinho. Which also means you agree with each other, I think... :)Blue Mooner said:moomba said:tolmie's hairdoo said:I would hazard a guess Mancini has the highest win percentage based on the fact he was longer at the club than the other two put together.
Nice try, though!
Like I said, the aim of the game is winning trophies, not win percentage. Just thought it was an interesting stat. And yes, Mancini does have the highest percentage, followed by Rafa, followed by Jose.
hang on a minute, the longer you are at a club the harder it is to maintain a higher win percentage, so actually it endorses mancini's position even more.
Actually I would say it is one of the best measures as a higher win percentage means you are more likely to win the domestic league.
trophies are a measure but with any cup competition there is the luckbthat can go against you as happened to mancini at inter when he had a man sent off in each leg against the dippers.
ExactlyRic said:FantasyIreland said:Mancini's long term no.1 target,Cavani,according to reports in the Mail,is close to agreeing terms......
Cavani is obviously top notch and a player any manager would want,however,is this is a good indicator that Bob will be here next season?
No idea about Mancini (although if I was a gambling man I'd say he'll get another season), but regardless I wouldn't give any credence to a Mail transfer rumour.