Mancini (cont)

Dethred said:
Davs 19 said:
Moomba's a troll ??? Give your a head a shake my friend.........you say that what your posting doesn't 'sink in for dozens of people here'.........have you stopped to think why ? Have you considered why you seem to be in a minority of one ? Have you perhaps wondered whether it's because you generally post a load of negative bollocks in a particularly arrogant style ?

If not, you should.

You're right, I have only 500+ posts, and yet this minority of one must have miraculously kept the Mancini out thread going for 600+ pages.

I should change my name to Jesus of Nazareth. I've managed to create a discussion of over 6000 posts, and I'm the only one thinking it might be a reasonable decision to replace the manager.

Forgive me, all I can do now is joke, because trying to explain the same basic concept over and over is getting boring.

Dethred has 500 and odd posts. Blue Heaven a similar number. Blue Purgatory almost identical. Dethred only appeared today after Blue Heaven logged off. ISN'T THAT JUST A COMPLETE COINCIDENCE?

Suspected twats at play here: pauldominic, Didsbury Shears, Billy Dave and Johnward De Crossan.....

JUST SAYIN'...
 
Gaylord du Bois said:
I'm still convinced Derthed is a disillusioned gooner.


Absolutely. Followed Nasri over, he's my idol.

(I am risking the joke, but I fully anticipate at least 10 of you thinking I'm serious and quoting it in two pages).<br /><br />-- Mon Apr 15, 2013 2:10 pm --<br /><br />
The Flash said:
Dethred has 500 and odd posts. Blue Heaven a similar number. Blue Purgatory almost identical. Dethred only appeared today after Blue Heaven logged off. ISN'T THAT JUST A COMPLETE COINCIDENCE?

Suspected twats at play here: pauldominic, Didsbury Shears, Billy Dave and Johnward De Crossan.....

JUST SAYIN'...


If only we had things like IP addresses to know for sure!!! :-O
 
Dethred said:
moomba said:
And when it comes down to it, how have we not progressed?

6th when Mancini took over, now 2nd with a league title, FA Cup win, community shield win and the possibility of another cup win in the pipeline.

The only progress in Europe, which the objective is "winning European honors", is that we have moved from nothing---->Europa League----->Champions League.

Each of those steps was based on progress in the premier league. There has been no actual progress in Europe itself.

Knocked out in the round of 16 in the Europa league
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.
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Knocked out, narrowly in the group stage of the CL our first go.
.
.
.
Knocked out dead bottom with only 3 points.

Where's the progress in Europe?

Not one person has claimed we have failed to make progress domestically on the whole, albeit this season we've fallen back domestically as well (Premier league-to-FA Cup is not forward an improvement per se). There would be no doubts about Mancini by anyone if he had done well in Europe, or it wasn't a complete risk to assume he'll improve in Europe. He was sacked from Inter Milan for the same reason, and Mourinho took essentially the exact same team to the CL title, the league, and a cup.

Fuck this, I just need to start copying and pasting the same thing over and over, because the same points have to be made because no one is allowing it to soak in (whether you agree with it or not).
"do the owners want to see progress"

Examples of progress are then presented

...."what about Europe?"

[bigimg]http://www.johnlocke.org/site-docs/lockerroom/movinggoalpost.gif[/bigimg]


Do you not understand the term "long term plan"?
 
Dethred said:
Gaylord du Bois said:
I'm still convinced Derthed is a disillusioned gooner.


Absolutely. Followed Nasri over, he's my idol.

(I am risking the joke, but I fully anticipate at least 10 of you thinking I'm serious and quoting it in two pages).

-- Mon Apr 15, 2013 2:10 pm --


Believe me...No ones taking you seriously...
 
Dethred said:
moomba said:
And when it comes down to it, how have we not progressed?

6th when Mancini took over, now 2nd with a league title, FA Cup win, community shield win and the possibility of another cup win in the pipeline.

The only progress in Europe, which the objective is "winning European honors", is that we have moved from nothing---->Europa League----->Champions League.

Each of those steps was based on progress in the premier league. There has been no actual progress in Europe itself.

Knocked out in the round of 16 in the Europa league
.
.
.
Knocked out, narrowly in the group stage of the CL our first go.
.
.
.
Knocked out dead bottom with only 3 points.

Where's the progress in Europe?

Not one person has claimed we have failed to make progress domestically on the whole, albeit this season we've fallen back domestically as well (Premier league-to-FA Cup is not forward an improvement per se). There would be no doubts about Mancini by anyone if he had done well in Europe, or it wasn't a complete risk to assume he'll improve in Europe. He was sacked from Inter Milan for the same reason, and Mourinho took essentially the exact same team to the CL title, the league, and a cup.

Fuck this, I just need to start copying and pasting the same thing over and over, because the same points have to be made because no one is allowing it to soak in (whether you agree with it or not).

Are you happy with our progress under Mancini or not?

I have stated probably 20+ times now that I am more than happy with the progress, but I doubt the owners are.
 
pudge said:
"do the owners want to see progress"

Examples of progress are then presented

...."what about Europe?"

[bigimg]http://www.johnlocke.org/site-docs/lockerroom/movinggoalpost.gif[/bigimg]


Do you not understand the term "long term plan"?

One of the yardsticks in the quote was Europe, genius. Do you guys selectively omit whole sentences when you read? "Oh that doesn't match what I want to believe, gloss right over that..."

Long term? 3 years and not a single inch of movement in Europe, and this year a clear step backwards. Wonder what happens if Mansour learns what happened to Inter when they brought Mourinho in to replace Mancini. Shhh, don't tell him.
 
Dethred said:
pudge said:
"do the owners want to see progress"

Examples of progress are then presented

...."what about Europe?"

[bigimg]http://www.johnlocke.org/site-docs/lockerroom/movinggoalpost.gif[/bigimg]


Do you not understand the term "long term plan"?

One of the yardsticks in the quote was Europe, genius. Do you guys selectively omit whole sentences when you read? "Oh that doesn't match what I want to believe, gloss right over that..."

Long term? 3 years and not a single inch of movement in Europe, and this year a clear step backwards. Wonder what happens if Mansour learns what happened to Inter when they brought Mourinho in to replace Mancini. Shhh, don't tell him.
Not a single inch of movement in Europe? I remember qualifying for the Uefa Cup via the Fair play league.

I think playing in the champions League is enormous improvement and progress.

And you're the one who glossed over the progress moomba presented and went straight for the "what about Europe" excuse, genius.
 
pudge said:
Dethred said:
pudge said:
"do the owners want to see progress"

Examples of progress are then presented

...."what about Europe?"

[bigimg]http://www.johnlocke.org/site-docs/lockerroom/movinggoalpost.gif[/bigimg]


Do you not understand the term "long term plan"?

One of the yardsticks in the quote was Europe, genius. Do you guys selectively omit whole sentences when you read? "Oh that doesn't match what I want to believe, gloss right over that..."

Long term? 3 years and not a single inch of movement in Europe, and this year a clear step backwards. Wonder what happens if Mansour learns what happened to Inter when they brought Mourinho in to replace Mancini. Shhh, don't tell him.
Not a single inch of movement in Europe? I remember qualifying for the Uefa Cup via the Fair play league.

I think playing in the champions League is enormous improvement and progress.

And you're the one who glossed over the progress moomba presented and went straight for the "what about Europe" excuse, genius.

Have you managed to finally shut him up ?? waits in anticipation..;)
 
moomba said:
Are you happy with our progress under Mancini or not?

Yep, there it is! My coworkers are wondering why I am laughing aloud.

In order of discussion:

1.) Dethred doesn't mind our rate of progress. (a reply to a question by multiple members)
2.) Dethred believes owners DO mind the rate of progress judging by their publicly stated goals. Dethred, hence, is open to replacing Mancini.
3.) Presumably as contrary evidence, Moomba provides a quote as evidence... quote describes goal of challenging for European Honors. Imagine that, Dethred's claims proven by the person arguing against him!
4.) Dethred lists brief story of three European Campaigns. List shows no progress, at all. If anything it shows going backwards in Europe.
5.) Moomba then replies asking a question answered in step #1, as if to imply that I am not happy with our rate of progress.

You. can. not. make. it. up.

It's been entertaining, but I have to head home for the evening. Really made my work day go quickly. Its been fun going from "rag", to "agenda", to "you've only followed City for 10 years, that doesn't make you a psychic", to "You state reasons why Mansour might not be satisfied with our progress, that must mean you're not happy with our progress."

Comic relief on Bluemoon, who'da thunk it?
 
Dethred said:
Gaylord du Bois said:
I'm still convinced Derthed is a disillusioned gooner.


Absolutely. Followed Nasri over, he's my idol.

(I am risking the joke, but I fully anticipate at least 10 of you thinking I'm serious and quoting it in two pages).

-- Mon Apr 15, 2013 2:10 pm --

The Flash said:
Dethred has 500 and odd posts. Blue Heaven a similar number. Blue Purgatory almost identical. Dethred only appeared today after Blue Heaven logged off. ISN'T THAT JUST A COMPLETE COINCIDENCE?

Suspected twats at play here: pauldominic, Didsbury Shears, Billy Dave and Johnward De Crossan.....

JUST SAYIN'...


If only we had things like IP addresses to know for sure!!! :-O

Shearings Dave and Billy's Diddums are one and the same and conspicuous by their absence today!

You seem like a detestable WUM and I will happily state it. Why? Because anyone with a modicum of intelligence wouldn't come on a City forum with the word 'red' in their username.

Even if you try and make some tenuous link to Danzig, it is a failure. I am going to stalk you. I want your hate. I will earn it. Yum yum!!
 

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