Mancini

[Bluemoon115]

he sounds like a rag to me the clown

he's not as i've seen him at games but fuck me his desire for mancini to fail is unbelievable.

just a quick word to the people who want mancini sacked.
if he's sacked it means we've done badly.

why do you want that so desperately?

is "i told you so" on a forum that important to you?

Their desperation for Mancini to fail is palpable and fly's in the face of them wanting City to do well. This nonsense hasn't just been going on since we fell 15 points behind, with some of them, it's been going on since we lost away at Arsenal last season and they 'thought' we had lost the league. It simply smacks of Internet opinion warriors who are so desperate to be proven right that they appear quite happy to see City fail. Clubs with instability surrounding it never do well, it's a fact, and yet these morons seem happy to perpetuate the instability. Fortunately, they are low in number, and it is not translating into reality on a match day, but its not for the want of them trying that's for sure.

This season we are to all intents and purposes (and without wishing to be arrogant) one win away from winning the FA cup and, still, they moan about the manager.

What sort of club sacks a manager who finishes 2nd in the league and wins the FA cup ? A crackpot club. I would have far more respect for these people if they raised the debate come the end of the season and we know the outcome.

Fortunately, I believe with have owners who are far more sensible and pragmatic and will not sack Mancini even if we miss out on the FA cup. They realise it has to be evolution not revolution from here. If I'm wrong come the season end ? Who gives a f*ck.

Too much nonsense in there, so I'll ask only one question.

You say evolution.

In what way have we evolved this season?

 

[bluemcr]

http://www.sabotagetimes.com/reportage/manuel-pellegrini-everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-in-demand-chilean/ Definate upgrade in my humblest opinion, this guy would get us fired up again and fighting on all fronts with a full pre-season. Forget his lack lustre trophy hall, compared to mancini in managing a team ie getting the best out of them, having a plan B when needed and over all tactical nouse the guy is far superior. We have gone stagnent and everyone knows it and teams below us know it and they smell blood. I think the two ex-barca lads won't take the chance with mancini next season we just can't afford to look a laughing stock in europe again. Mancini has had his cake and eaten it, time to move on and give someone else another crack of the whip!

Sums him up as:

Pellegrini with his same old tactics of a well organised group who is difficult to play against, hard to break down and will always give 100%,

Now how many of those could you apply to us at the moment? We're reasonably well-organised, easy to play against (from a defensive point of view), reasonably hard to break down but we certainly don't always give 100%.

Well what you sayin stick or twist? We got rid of hughes mid way mancini took over look what he did progressed us. This guy with a full pre-season would get us attacking with a more cohesive team.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

he sounds like a rag to me the clown

he's not as i've seen him at games but fuck me his desire for mancini to fail is unbelievable.

just a quick word to the people who want mancini sacked.
if he's sacked it means we've done badly.

why do you want that so desperately?

is "i told you so" on a forum that important to you?

Their desperation for Mancini to fail is palpable and fly's in the face of them wanting City to do well. This nonsense hasn't just been going on since we fell 15 points behind, with some of them, it's been going on since we lost away at Arsenal last season and they 'thought' we had lost the league. It simply smacks of Internet opinion warriors who are so desperate to be proven right that they appear quite happy to see City fail. Clubs with instability surrounding it never do well, it's a fact, and yet these morons seem happy to perpetuate the instability. Fortunately, they are low in number, and it is not translating into reality on a match day, but its not for the want of them trying that's for sure.

This season we are to all intents and purposes (and without wishing to be arrogant) one win away from winning the FA cup and, still, they moan about the manager.

What sort of club sacks a manager who finishes 2nd in the league and wins the FA cup ? A crackpot club. I would have far more respect for these people if they raised the debate come the end of the season and we know the outcome.

Fortunately, I believe with have owners who are far more sensible and pragmatic and will not sack Mancini even if we miss out on the FA cup. They realise it has to be evolution not revolution from here. If I'm wrong come the season end ? Who gives a f*ck.

Always tickles me to be told I'm 'destabilising the club' by posting my opinion on a football forum. It can only be attributed to a gross delusion as to the importance of these places I suppose.

And the 'desperate to fail' stuff is just laughable. Like i will be sitting at wembley watching us play united and hoping to see them win so I can come on here on the next day criticising Mancini.

If you're going to argue about mancini's future, then do it, rather than resort to comedy attacks on posters who happen to have an opinion you don't like.

I could start babbling like a teenager that those who want to keep Mancini are so used to living in united's shadow that they secretly want it, but I don't, because its pathetic and irrelevant to the discussion.

 

[Blue Mooner]

http://www.sabotagetimes.com/reportage/manuel-pellegrini-everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-in-demand-chilean/ Definate upgrade in my humblest opinion, this guy would get us fired up again and fighting on all fronts with a full pre-season. Forget his lack lustre trophy hall, compared to mancini in managing a team ie getting the best out of them, having a plan B when needed and over all tactical nouse the guy is far superior. We have gone stagnent and everyone knows it and teams below us know it and they smell blood. I think the two ex-barca lads won't take the chance with mancini next season we just can't afford to look a laughing stock in europe again. Mancini has had his cake and eaten it, time to move on and give someone else another crack of the whip!

Interesting that the article cites that Pellegrini was in a group that put the rags bottom of the champions league group one season. Funny that, clearly, the rags should have sacked ferguson.

Interesting that he managed universidad Catolica in chile who I quote were 'one of the most popular clubs in chile with amazing players such as Alberto Acosta and Nestor Gorosito, but he could only finish runner up in 94 & 95 oh the irony.....

He also had a failed champions league bid with Real Madrid when they went out at the last 16 stage despite having spent shed loads of money on Ronaldo, kaka, benzema, alonso building on a base of players that was infinitely better than ours. I take it he must have been tactically inept at this point, so what, pray tell, makes this track record any better than Mancini?

 

[greasedupdeafguy]

http://www.sabotagetimes.com/reportage/manuel-pellegrini-everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-in-demand-chilean/ Definate upgrade in my humblest opinion, this guy would get us fired up again and fighting on all fronts with a full pre-season. Forget his lack lustre trophy hall, compared to mancini in managing a team ie getting the best out of them, having a plan B when needed and over all tactical nouse the guy is far superior. We have gone stagnent and everyone knows it and teams below us know it and they smell blood. I think the two ex-barca lads won't take the chance with mancini next season we just can't afford to look a laughing stock in europe again. Mancini has had his cake and eaten it, time to move on and give someone else another crack of the whip!

Interesting that the article cites that Pellegrini was in a group that put the rags bottom of the champions league group one season. Funny that, clearly, the rags should have sacked ferguson.

Interesting that he managed universidad Catolica in chile who I quote were 'one of the most popular clubs in chile with amazing players such as Alberto Acosta and Nestor Gorosito, but he could only finish runner up in 94 & 95 oh the irony.....

He also had a failed champions league bid with Real Madrid when they went out at the last 16 stage despite having spent shed loads of money on Ronaldo, kaka, benzema, alonso building on a base of players that was infinitely better than ours. I take it he must have been tactically inept at this point, so what, pray tell, makes this track record any better than Mancini?

Well at least he managed to qualify from the group stages...

 

[bluemcr]

http://www.sabotagetimes.com/reportage/manuel-pellegrini-everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-in-demand-chilean/ Definate upgrade in my humblest opinion, this guy would get us fired up again and fighting on all fronts with a full pre-season. Forget his lack lustre trophy hall, compared to mancini in managing a team ie getting the best out of them, having a plan B when needed and over all tactical nouse the guy is far superior. We have gone stagnent and everyone knows it and teams below us know it and they smell blood. I think the two ex-barca lads won't take the chance with mancini next season we just can't afford to look a laughing stock in europe again. Mancini has had his cake and eaten it, time to move on and give someone else another crack of the whip!

Interesting that the article cites that Pellegrini was in a group that put the rags bottom of the champions league group one season. Funny that, clearly, the rags should have sacked ferguson.

Interesting that he managed universidad Catolica in chile who I quote were 'one of the most popular clubs in chile with amazing players such as Alberto Acosta and Nestor Gorosito, but he could only finish runner up in 94 & 95 oh the irony.....

He also had a failed champions league bid with Real Madrid when they went out at the last 16 stage despite having spent shed loads of money on Ronaldo, kaka, benzema, alonso building on a base of players that was infinitely better than ours. I take it he must have been tactically inept at this point, so what, pray tell, makes this track record any better than Mancini?

So you would rather pray and hope mancini gets us playing a whole lot better next season with a different out look. I hope so if he is still here, because if he doesn't turn us around there will be alot of sniggering in dark corners.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

I think it's more of 'Giving Mancini the Tools to get it Right' rather than Mancini getting it wrong.

We've come so far in such a short time that people are forgetting that a lot of our players were bought as an upgrade on the previous, moving us further forward in our attempts. Now we are there we need to maximise our strategies and only bring in those that 'fit the bill', as they say.

It's going to be good.

This is what pisses me off mate, not just you directly. You can't have it all ends up.

How much money do you feel it actually takes in terms of equating it to having the right tools for the job?

What were the £50m plus Nasri and Dzeko upgrades on?

As someone else stated, we are now needing a compliant yes man.

Does Mancini strike you as this type of manager, an autocrat who thinks he is even more informed than the club medics and outside doctors.

Apparently Micah would be back in three weeks...

Why does it piss you off, it's just an opinion? Your problem seems to be that you have a low opinion of our top brass. It may not think so but what you're are literally saying is that they are all wrong.

As for Mancini, I'm not a lover. He gets on my tits no-end but he does bring home the bacon. You infer that he is an autocrat yet he has worked under the very same circumstances, not only in Italy but here as well. He's made good noises about the new board and they have made good noises about him, that's all I am saying.

You might be pushing for a change mate but why get so irate about it, it's out of your hands and no amount of inciteful postings on here will change that fact. Unless you get enough followers, of course.

And that's what pisses me off, not you direct, but the few on here who constantly try to belittle the club or, in a way, try to destablise a ship that is still running it's course.

I have no problem with anybody having this debate but the constant berating of the current incumbent is way off scale, to the point where some are devaluing are triumphs.
Now that, I don't like.

I have a very high opinion of our top brass, but seriously, why should we credit them with any more intelligence that your average football fan?

I certainly have more faith with Begiristain now on board and by appointing him, the owners clearly felt they needed to make this type of appointment.

My frustrations are for some who seemingly refuse to even acknowledge Mancini has been afforded some very expensive tools to do this job in the first place.

You can't state you have no problem with a differing opinion, having this ongoing debate, yet construe it as a constant berating of Mancini.

It's still only opinion.

I have read countless posts from posters who have serious reservations about Mancini, yet the majority qualify it with they will always be thankful for last season.

Perhaps, because the consensus of this board is seemingly weighted in Mancini's favour, and a defensive standpoint needs to be adopted on a more regular basis.

 

[The Future's Blue]

Do people really see Pellegrini as a realistic option?

Wouldn't you prefer Mourinho?

 

[Marvin]

Ongoing debate? - it's a slap in the face to footballing people from fans who should know better after 35 years in the wilderness. And when you come up with a manager whose sole European achievement in the Intertoto Cup it's not a debate at all. It's self-indulgence.

 

[chesterbells]

I think it's more of 'Giving Mancini the Tools to get it Right' rather than Mancini getting it wrong.

We've come so far in such a short time that people are forgetting that a lot of our players were bought as an upgrade on the previous, moving us further forward in our attempts. Now we are there we need to maximise our strategies and only bring in those that 'fit the bill', as they say.

It's going to be good.

But, er, the current incumbent is the subject of the debate!

This is what pisses me off mate, not just you directly. You can't have it all ends up.

How much money do you feel it actually takes in terms of equating it to having the right tools for the job?

What were the £50m plus Nasri and Dzeko upgrades on?

As someone else stated, we are now needing a compliant yes man.

Does Mancini strike you as this type of manager, an autocrat who thinks he is even more informed than the club medics and outside doctors.

Apparently Micah would be back in three weeks...

Why does it piss you off, it's just an opinion? Your problem seems to be that you have a low opinion of our top brass. It may not think so but what you're are literally saying is that they are all wrong.

As for Mancini, I'm not a lover. He gets on my tits no-end but he does bring home the bacon. You infer that he is an autocrat yet he has worked under the very same circumstances, not only in Italy but here as well. He's made good noises about the new board and they have made good noises about him, that's all I am saying.

You might be pushing for a change mate but why get so irate about it, it's out of your hands and no amount of inciteful postings on here will change that fact. Unless you get enough followers, of course.

And that's what pisses me off, not you direct, but the few on here who constantly try to belittle the club or, in a way, try to destablise a ship that is still running it's course.

I have no problem with anybody having this debate but the constant berating of the current incumbent is way off scale, to the point where some are devaluing are triumphs. Now that, I don't like.

But the current incumbent is the subject of the debate you don't have a problem with!