Mancini's future

[mackenzie]

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That's a CL stipulation, not a namby pamby rule such as the one that the BBC try and enforce for the Prem. Hell UEFA run a tight ship, they move fans from rows 1&2 for extra sponsor space ffs.

I'll lecture you quite happily thanks. Second guessing without a shred of empathy for the situation is hardly fair is it?

How should Mancini have handled the question about not putting a striker on given the fact he HAD to attend a post match interview AND a press conference? Please enlighten me. Even if he'd broken the rules and not attended then the press would have torn him a new one for not explaining his lack of a striking substituion. Why should he take the flak for Tevez's gross misconduct? A retraction would be fine if you can't come up with a suitable solution.

I'll hold up my hands and admit I didn't know it was a condition that a press conference for a manager is an obligation in the CL. Being a City fan the whole situation is quite new to me after all, so good for you that you did the homework.
However, where did I say that he should take the flak for the Tevez situation? All I was pointing out is that Tevez 'played' him. If you cant see that then I can't add anything more.

By not answering the question put to him "Why did you not bring Tevez on?", he would have been slaughtered for not trying to win (or atleast come back into) the game against Bayern. That is how he'd have taken the flak Mack. Not rocket science and I'm not being funny.

Tevez played no one., Tevez and his camp are in the shit and know it. If anything Mancini has "played" him and Kia. He now has almost unanimous support to rid the club of a player he doesn't want to work with.

SWP, as my first post on this thread pointed out, I believe that both Mancini and Tevez have too much history for anybody to think this would work.
Each were waiting for an opportunity to set out their stall. Tevez made a fatal mistake though (cos he's a thick git) and mouthed off to the media before Kia could speak to him.
Hence his statement the next day.
I am not a Mancini outer, never have been, so please don't allude to that when you reply to my posts.
I'm just posting what I see.

 

[moomba]

You got one thing right though, Mancini got exactly what he wanted. Very clever.

Why did he want that? Because in his mind it is the best thing for the club.

 

[bluefandk]

i wont pretend to know what the fuck you are on about except that by saying people "know fuck all about football" because they have different view to you is a bit precious sunshine.

Sunshine? Are you now pretending to star in some movie or what is that all about dear?

In my humble opinion they know nothing about football, thats what this board is all bout expressing your opinion.

If they think Im wrong they are welcome to prove me wrong.

I wont be holding my breath though.

Fuck me, are you Peter Scheimcel ?

I wish that guy has more money than God.

 

[bluemanc]

I'll hold up my hands and admit I didn't know it was a condition that a press conference for a manager is an obligation in the CL. Being a City fan the whole situation is quite new to me after all, so good for you that you did the homework.
However, where did I say that he should take the flak for the Tevez situation? All I was pointing out is that Tevez 'played' him. If you cant see that then I can't add anything more.

It's not a condition that you have to answer a question in a specific way,perhaps no one around him had the balls to tell him to calm down and think before he spoke.
He's shite at TV interviews at the best of times,that's just the way it is.

I ask again and it seems you are an expert.

How does Mancini answer the question "Why did you not put Tevez [a striker] on?"

Oh that's it, you can't.

Not sure who you're asking but he put Nige on so as not to concede a 3rd that's why he didn't put a striker on,he said that.
btw off topic a bit but fergie actually threw the boot in beckhams face,he didn't kick it.

 

[SWP's back]

If people looked a little deeper, perhaps they'd be chanting for our owner, rather than Roberto.
What League position do you think we 'd have had in more normal financial circumstances under Mancini? and how far ahead of the Rags might we have been with a manager who could have handled, and seen the value of, Bellamy, Adebayor, Ireland, Tevez and Petrov and Given, who have all been sold cheaply or sent on loan?
Loyalty is essential, but it should be to the Club, not our present, blundering manager

We chant for both fella. Shocked you aren't aware of this.

And you see no contradiction in that? I would if it was my money going in there.

Well you aren't the owner.

I ask again. How should Mancini have handled the question (5th time I've asked and no one has answered).

I also see no contradiction as Mancini has the full backing of the owner, so singing for both seems to dovetail beautifully.

I notice the cabal wannabes come out at night.

 

[Balti]

Listen to the support for Bobby at the weekend and you'll know everything you need to about how the true supporters feel.

This and only this.

If people looked a little deeper, perhaps they'd be chanting for our owner, rather than Roberto.
What League position do you think we 'd have had in more normal financial circumstances under Mancini? and how far ahead of the Rags might we have been with a manager who could have handled, and seen the value of, Bellamy, Adebayor, Ireland, Tevez and Petrov and Given, who have all been sold cheaply or sent on loan?
Loyalty is essential, but it should be to the Club, not our present, blundering manager

Is that Bellers the Liverpool reserve? Ade the lazy mardarse who stopped trying at City? Ireland the Villa reserve? Petrov the Bolton player and Given the Villa keeper? Hardly ripping up trees are they?

And if Roberto Mancini blunders his way to more silverware and Champions League football then that's the sort of blundering we like.

But of course yes Thank You Sheikh Mansour once again for investing in our club and attracting a better calibre of player for our best manager in a generation.

Our loyalty is to the club. Unlike you we are clearly happy with the progress that the club and the team under Mancini are making.

 

[SWP's back]

SWPs back pretending he knows it all again.

Why dont you explain to us all why he is wrong?

Or is all you want to contribute with personal attacks?

This is the 3rd thread he has simply put something along these lines in 48 hours without adding anything to a debate.

It's all becasue I hurt his feelings a month or so back.

I find it very flattering to be honest, I had a crush when I was a teenager once. Hormones and all that.......

 

[flb]

Forgive my ignorance football expert chaps but are not the facts that a gormless looking fuckpig has refused to enter the play in a football match? It doesn't matter one iota who or how good that wankstain is at football but refusing to do your job is a sackable offence? SWP, listen fella you know and I know he's a ****,along with 1 or two others- let's chill and sing Mancinis name and let that ugly little pleb what City means.

To all those willing to suck Tevez's dick go ahead

Taste the corn beef

 

[SWP's back]

I'll hold up my hands and admit I didn't know it was a condition that a press conference for a manager is an obligation in the CL. Being a City fan the whole situation is quite new to me after all, so good for you that you did the homework.
However, where did I say that he should take the flak for the Tevez situation? All I was pointing out is that Tevez 'played' him. If you cant see that then I can't add anything more.

By not answering the question put to him "Why did you not bring Tevez on?", he would have been slaughtered for not trying to win (or atleast come back into) the game against Bayern. That is how he'd have taken the flak Mack. Not rocket science and I'm not being funny.

Tevez played no one., Tevez and his camp are in the shit and know it. If anything Mancini has "played" him and Kia. He now has almost unanimous support to rid the club of a player he doesn't want to work with.

SWP, as my first post on this thread pointed out, I believe that both Mancini and Tevez have too much history for anybody to think this would work.
Each were waiting for an opportunity to set out their stall. Tevez made a fatal mistake though (cos he's a thick git) and mouthed off to the media before Kia could speak to him.
Hence his statement the next day.
I am not a Mancini outer, never have been, so please don't allude to that when you reply to my posts.
I'm just posting what I see.

Nothing you say here is mutually exclusive to what I have posted Macker.


I've been simply asking how Mancini could keep it all "in house" which such a public showing of disrepect from Tevez on the world stage.

 

[BosnianDiamond]

In that bullshit article I just read BosnianDiamond it says

"People are saying that he is a disgrace because he refused to play in Munich on Tuesday night, but did you see the faces of the other players on that bench? They all looked dejected."

Zabs could not have put it more simply to Tevez than with that look of disgust like he was a bronzed 80 year old sicilian boss who had found a cheating rat. Love ya Zabs

I'm not excusing what Tevez did, in fact even the article says that it's the wrong thing to do. What this article does is make a good point that having too many players on the squad is extremely difficult to manage. Man City has too many players who rightfully feel they should get equal opportunities to start. This creates an atmosphere of tension and nervousness, and it affects the players performance because they constantly play with the fear of making a mistake and getting benched.

It's easy to say "they get paid for it" but a true competitor never wants to warm the bench.

FFS, even the fans on this forum expect a striker to score every game and if he goes two games without scoring he's shit. Since when did this all turn into a video game?