Mancio to crack the whip?

[mancity1]

I agree with those saying things are a bit odd at the moment. I'd imagine Joe Hart is a popular player in the dressing room, as is Joleon, and the manager slating them in different ways whether directly or indirectly cannot be helping team morale. Much as I dislike SAF, he always makes a point of defending players in the media and keeping any stick he doshes out behind closed doors. I don't know why Bobby continues to hang out our dirty washing in public, the only impression it gives is that he is looking to pass the buck/apportion the blame elsewhere.

I don't have a problem with what RM said after the game as all he stated was the obvious which everybody who watched the game could see for themselves.

If players are so super sensitive about being singled out from time to time in the media by a manager then they can / could have approached him to discuss that in their one on ones with him and I am sure RM would respect their wishes.

In general he talked about the team as a whole with some reference to Joe Hart who we know he has a high opinion of.

It's usually only the ones he expects to play to their high standards week on week like Hart that he makes reference to more often than not when he does.

If you asked Joe whether he was happy with his and the teams effort you know how he would have reacted.

I am sure above most he would have no qualms about RM being disappointed with not only his lack of concentration in the first two goals but his performance overall as saying so if asked or making reference to him in the media afterwards.

Much more importantly is what Joe actually thinks of RM as a tactition and what resources he provides to Joe to be the best he can be.

 

[sir baconface]

My mate also gave me an interesting theory, and he knows his football well(used to be a professional player). He says that he believes Mancini is not making the subs any more, it's Platt, writing down changes and bringing them to Mancini for approval. He believes Mancini has lost all confidence in himself. Interesting theory.

If he's right, then we have to get him out of the club now. Not tomorrow, now.

Come on, DD. That's nothing more than two women gossiping over the garden fence and concluding the postman's shagging 'er next door.

 

[Mancio]

There's something funny going on. First Duncan Castles' article says he's a dead man walking. Rumours of him resigning last week, Tevez disappears, Kompany not even in the squad, Milner dropped and they collectively play like an under-8's team on Saturday then none will even talk to MCFC TV.

The antipathy between Mancini and parts of his squad is apparently palpable. It has been referenced several times in the last 48 hours but a lot of senior players are yet to forgive Mancini for trying to hang Lescott out to dry to hide his own inadequacies and mistakes after the game against Ajax in Amsterdam.

In terms of him cracking the whip ... he's far too arrogant to see that he is part of the problem rather than part of the solution, hence why he continues to lash out publicly at individual players.

I have no doubt in my mind that Txiki and Ferran will have been as appalled by what they saw in Southampton as most of us Blues were. The players will no doubt get a rollicking, but the buck will stop with the manager.

Just had a very similar phone conversation with a blue mate. You can tell a mile off that the players have lost confidence in him. It seems to me like things may have happened behind the scenes, and this latest media rant appears to be part of it. He's like Alan Ball in his last few weeks, blaming the players en masse.

My great hope, as I've said before, is that our new top brass are football people, unlike Khaldoon, and will have already seen through Mancini, his unbalanced squad, his odd selections and substitutions and the constant week-on-week underperformance from this group of players. They will know that hanging players out to dry publicly is not the way to motivate them.

My mate also gave me an interesting theory, and he knows his football well(used to be a professional player). He says that he believes Mancini is not making the subs any more, it's Platt, writing down changes and bringing them to Mancini for approval. He believes Mancini has lost all confidence in himself. Interesting theory.

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[schumey04]

Personally I cant think of a worse thing to happen as a CB than being taken off ala Lescott only for a dodgey midfielder to continue on in your place.

Garcia has to be one of the slowest players i've seen in a City shirt and Bobby decides the place for him is as the sole CB in a back 3 ....it kills me.

Where is Rekik ?? Did he not come back from loan in Dec ??surely he would have had to crossed Mancinis mind. It cant be because hes too young as hes only a year younger than Nastasic.

Also I think we should have left Zabba with the armband...Yaya didn't turn up

 

[JoeMercer'sWay]

there's no quicker way to lose your job than to piss off the senior players.

 

[lancs blue]

there's no quicker way to lose your job than to piss off the senior players.

True enough, that's what happened to Ron Saunders (although I detested his style of play so wasn't unhappy about him going).

However in the current situation I'm far more annoyed with some of our senior players whose standards have slipped markedly this season (Hart, Nasri, Tevez, Yaya to name 4) and if being publicly criticised by the manager upsets them then tough fucking shit, they should get over it and get on with playing to the best of their ability. Players are paid to play, not whine about how the manager doesn't give them a cuddle every 5 minutes.

 

[york away to this!]

why type Mancio when its just as easy to type Mancini ??

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corkinio

predictive text. when I type Ma... it finishes it off ...y be getting sacked in the morning.

 

[Lancet Fluke]

I wouldn't want to completely absolve the players of any blame but when the manager has to admit that 8 out of the 11 he picked "didn't play" then I think he has a major problem. It isn't 1 or 2 who appear to have downed tools, it looks from the outside to be a significant number of senior players. I read on here over the weekend several people posting that we should just get rid of any players who don't want to play for the manager. I understand that theory, ideally you don't want players undermining a manager and it doesn't set a great precedent if the players "win." But aside from the fact that it far easier to change a manager than large numbers of an expensively assembled squad, the club already got rid of several players at the start of Mancini's reign because they didn't want to play for him (I thought that was correct as those players never gave him a fair crack). But now 3 years down the line, if a significant number of players, several of whom presumably he signed, don't want to play for him, I'd be more inclined to want to know why so many players are supposedly unhappy rather than just go through a costly clear out of players. It is a basic part of the manager's job to keep the vast majority of his squad on side. If he can't do that, I think the questions are hanging over him as opposed to a group of players who by and large have shown that they are incredibly professional and will usually "fight till the end" for the club. Just my opinion but it's at times like this (ie when the shit is really hitting the fan) that Mancini might regret being quite so aloof with his squad because he needs them now but it looks like there is little or no good will from his players.

 

[soldierblue]

Great, wasn't it one of the reason we have been losing anyway. I mean, why change the team for Southampton, Milner left out so Yaya can play bearing mind he has just returned and if we are honest up until Liverpool game, we have played well, all be it not scoring at QPR. I realise injuries force a change however, if you are going to play Yaya, then why not his brother in defence and not a midfield player, just a thought

 

[stonerblue]

There's something funny going on. First Duncan Castles' article says he's a dead man walking. Rumours of him resigning last week, Tevez disappears, Kompany not even in the squad, Milner dropped and they collectively play like an under-8's team on Saturday then none will even talk to MCFC TV.

The antipathy between Mancini and parts of his squad is apparently palpable. It has been referenced several times in the last 48 hours but a lot of senior players are yet to forgive Mancini for trying to hang Lescott out to dry to hide his own inadequacies and mistakes after the game against Ajax in Amsterdam.

In terms of him cracking the whip ... he's far too arrogant to see that he is part of the problem rather than part of the solution, hence why he continues to lash out publicly at individual players.

Funnily enough i was talking to an ex-pro on Saturday and he knew fuck all about the finer points of the game.

I have no doubt in my mind that Txiki and Ferran will have been as appalled by what they saw in Southampton as most of us Blues were. The players will no doubt get a rollicking, but the buck will stop with the manager.

Just had a very similar phone conversation with a blue mate. You can tell a mile off that the players have lost confidence in him. It seems to me like things may have happened behind the scenes, and this latest media rant appears to be part of it. He's like Alan Ball in his last few weeks, blaming the players en masse.

My great hope, as I've said before, is that our new top brass are football people, unlike Khaldoon, and will have already seen through Mancini, his unbalanced squad, his odd selections and substitutions and the constant week-on-week underperformance from this group of players. They will know that hanging players out to dry publicly is not the way to motivate them.

My mate also gave me an interesting theory, and he knows his football well(used to be a professional player). He says that he believes Mancini is not making the subs any more, it's Platt, writing down changes and bringing them to Mancini for approval. He believes Mancini has lost all confidence in himself. Interesting theory.

If he's right, then we have to get him out of the club now. Not tomorrow, now.