Mancio to crack the whip?

[Lancet Fluke]

Sounds like the lunatics are running the asylum. I know most of you posting on here are Mancini outers, nothing wrong with that, everybody entitled to their opinion, not that i necessarily agree mind. But are some of you seriously of the view that the players downed tools against a manager who has won us the FA Cup and Premier League? Seriously? I'm absolutely flabbergasted people would seriously put that forward as fact. The players and, yes, the manager, had a serious off day on Saturday, but to suggest other forces were at work as a consequence of this i frankly laughable. Jesus wept.

I think this "downed tools" thing being banded around is a simplification. I don't think the players ever go out their with an intention to play badly. There is too much at stake.

But a team is a team, and a manager is a part of that team. If there are divisions, and a lack of belief, then poor performances result. That's what it looks like to me at the moment. A squad who have lost confidence in their own management's abilities to get the best from them. I'd say it's been there all season, with Saturday being the big watershed.

And what that happens, if it has, issuing mass bollockings and public criticism isn't usually the way out of it.

I think looking at Chelsea last season shows that professional footballers very much do "down tools." Some of the senior players wanted rid of AVB and they made damn sure they did it and it was not some sub-conscious/confidence thing imo. Also worth noting something that Niall Quinn said in his autobiography too. He said that at one stage there were more players in the City changing room who wanted City to lose than players who wanted City to win!

 

[Bluebee2]

He's banking on Richards being fit soon, so he can get 5 full backs on when we need a goal, feck that putting forwards on.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

But are some of you seriously of the view that the players downed tools against a manager who has won us the FA Cup and Premier League?

So the players had nothing to do with winning the FA Cup and the League? Well maybe those players think that the manager is a hindrance rather than a help. Maybe they're sick to the back teeth of his methods and the fact he never talks to them and drops players who are playing well while having his favourites in the team week after week when they don't justify it.

PB, i have the utmost respect for you as a poster. Enjoy reading the vast majority of your posts as being informative, concise and balanced. So i'm surprised that you have come to the view that the players chose not to play for him. The same players didn't have that issue last season did they? Saturday was disappointing, i was as sick as anyone else at what happened. But put it into perspective, it was our third defeat of the season. Theres no doubt we have struggled this season trying to defend the title, i include the manager in that as well, but to suggest its a relationship issue between the manager and the players doesn't hold any water.

It was the 18th game this season that we haven't won.

Eighteenth in five months. With this squad.

 

[moomba]

He's banking on Richards being fit soon, so he can get 5 full backs on when we need a goal, feck that putting forwards on.

With Tevez unavailable which forward would you have put on?

 

[munster]

Bloody hell it's like a morg in here....

 

[Didsbury Dave]

Sounds like the lunatics are running the asylum. I know most of you posting on here are Mancini outers, nothing wrong with that, everybody entitled to their opinion, not that i necessarily agree mind. But are some of you seriously of the view that the players downed tools against a manager who has won us the FA Cup and Premier League? Seriously? I'm absolutely flabbergasted people would seriously put that forward as fact. The players and, yes, the manager, had a serious off day on Saturday, but to suggest other forces were at work as a consequence of this i frankly laughable. Jesus wept.

I think this "downed tools" thing being banded around is a simplification. I don't think the players ever go out their with an intention to play badly. There is too much at stake.

But a team is a team, and a manager is a part of that team. If there are divisions, and a lack of belief, then poor performances result. That's what it looks like to me at the moment. A squad who have lost confidence in their own management's abilities to get the best from them. I'd say it's been there all season, with Saturday being the big watershed.

And what that happens, if it has, issuing mass bollockings and public criticism isn't usually the way out of it.

I think looking at Chelsea last season shows that professional footballers very much do "down tools." Some of the senior players wanted rid of AVB and they made damn sure they did it and it was not some sub-conscious/confidence thing imo. Also worth noting something that Niall Quinn said in his autobiography too. He said that at one stage there were more players in the City changing room who wanted City to lose than players who wanted City to win!

Maybe, mate. Maybe it's just a lack of hunger or desire, which amounts to pretty much the same thing of course. But I'm definitely of the school of thought that the playing staff are in a state of disharmony. And I am convinced that the players would not shed a tear should he be fired.

 

[levets]

If the players have lost confidence in Mancini it is better to sack him now and not at the end of the season. The only availble manager we could get is Frank Rijkaard but I doubt he will want the job on a short term basis.

Or sack all the players
They are there to play and do as they are told

What gives them the fucking right to under perform wearing a city top to piss the manager off
If indeed this is the case.

We were told in no uncertain terms that part of ADUG's recruitment strategy was to compile huge dossiers on players temperaments and proffessionalism. Last year you could actually see in their detirmination that this was paying dividends.

And now we're getting told by some of Mancini's most desperate defenders to sack them all.

Hilarious. If he's lost the player's confidence then rest assured he's finished. I strongly suspect he has to be honest.

I think the bell is tolling....

 

[Didsbury Dave]

Or sack all the players
They are there to play and do as they are told

What gives them the fucking right to under perform wearing a city top to piss the manager off
If indeed this is the case.

We were told in no uncertain terms that part of ADUG's recruitment strategy was to compile huge dossiers on players temperaments and proffessionalism. Last year you could actually see in their detirmination that this was paying dividends.

And now we're getting told by some of Mancini's most desperate defenders to sack them all.

Hilarious. If he's lost the player's confidence then rest assured he's finished. I strongly suspect he has to be honest.

I think the bell is tolling....

So do I mate. I think the fat lady is clearing her throat.

 

[bernabias home shirt]

Or sack all the players
They are there to play and do as they are told

What gives them the fucking right to under perform wearing a city top to piss the manager off
If indeed this is the case.

We were told in no uncertain terms that part of ADUG's recruitment strategy was to compile huge dossiers on players temperaments and proffessionalism. Last year you could actually see in their detirmination that this was paying dividends.

And now we're getting told by some of Mancini's most desperate defenders to sack them all.

Hilarious. If he's lost the player's confidence then rest assured he's finished. I strongly suspect he has to be honest.

I think the bell is tolling....

Coming from a clown who wants mancini sacked a.s.a.p

 

[Ray78]

We were told in no uncertain terms that part of ADUG's recruitment strategy was to compile huge dossiers on players temperaments and proffessionalism. Last year you could actually see in their detirmination that this was paying dividends.

And now we're getting told by some of Mancini's most desperate defenders to sack them all.

Hilarious. If he's lost the player's confidence then rest assured he's finished. I strongly suspect he has to be honest.

I think the bell is tolling....

So do I mate. I think the fat lady is clearing her throat.

Yep Mancini is past the point of no return. However the important question is who we are going to replace him with?