Manuel Pellegrini (cont)

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The QPR game cant come soon enough now,it will tell us plenty about the attitude and thinking of both the team and manager.I think it will be positive.
 
The cookie monster said:
cleavers said:
The cookie monster said:
A fuckin parasite to our club you are
That's constructive NOT.

Cut the personal shit out, or we'll have to do it.
Two other posters started the shit stirring, it was just fine before that

Chill out mate, not worth losing your patience over it. I think it was a general warning rather than aimed just at you.

I do find it mad how as soon as we hit a bump in the road everyone loses their head. I wonder how some of you survived Swales, Ball et al.

I trusted the owners when they sacked Bobby (i thanked them when they sacked Hughes) i trust them to do the right thing with Manuel. The investment and the fact we are even talking champions league has earned them that trust.
 
FantasyIreland said:
The QPR game cant come soon enough now,it will tell us plenty about the attitude and thinking of both the team and manager.I think it will be positive.
I'll be shocked if we win. But if we do, then mini-crisis over.
 
Marvin said:
FantasyIreland said:
The QPR game cant come soon enough now,it will tell us plenty about the attitude and thinking of both the team and manager.I think it will be positive.
I'll be shocked if we win. But if we do, then mini-crisis over.
I honestly dont think things are as bad as being made out Marv.Pellegrini needs to play the best system for our players,and with a bit of ovedue luck the confidence will return and we'll be good to go again!
 
Marvin said:
FantasyIreland said:
The QPR game cant come soon enough now,it will tell us plenty about the attitude and thinking of both the team and manager.I think it will be positive.
I'll be shocked if we win. But if we do, then mini-crisis over.


I agree but the mini crisis won't be over dependant on how the players firstly respond. If the game is not going to plan then Pellegrini will be under scrutiny to make tactical changes to swing the game in our favour.
 
Marvin said:
FantasyIreland said:
The QPR game cant come soon enough now,it will tell us plenty about the attitude and thinking of both the team and manager.I think it will be positive.
I'll be shocked if we win. But if we do, then mini-crisis over.
I'm not sure it will be over, but at least we'll all get a break from it, 3 defeats in 5 with our players, is still in my book a mini crisis. If we win 5 or 6 in a row I'd call it over.
 
Marvin said:
cibaman said:
blue ranger said:
I think it's too early to even think about sacking. His major fuck up was picking our best player silva in the game v Newcastle.

We know that pellers is naive tactically, despite what one or two on here would lead us to believe. But we have to hope last night was the low point and he has learned and that he will have a plan B, particularly when we are in Europe or playing the best teams. It will be interesting to see what team he picks. We know we are in foran aerial bombardment.

Still not sure he has an eye for a player though - only hart, Zabaleta, Kompany, silva, Yaya and Aguero would get anywhere near the top teams in Europe.

Its not so much that he's naive tactically, he just doesnt seem interested in tactics at all.
I think he believes that City have really good players and should be able to impose their football on the opposition

You don't need to be overly clever to beat CSKA. You just need to be focused defensively, and to move the ball quickly. The two things we did not do.

The capitulation at Moscow was not tactical.

Blame for both situations lies with the players.

Not sure I agree with that. CSKA brought on Doumbia at half time, changed their shape, upped their tempo. We carried on as before. It was one of those situations where you could expect the manager to tweak the system. Not completely change it, just respond to their last throw of the dice. But it was almost as if we hadnt noticed what they were doing differently.
 
Fans singing "shall we do your job for you?" last night, suggests to me that he's losing an element of our support.
 
There is a simple explanation really and it's becoming ever clearer now. Pellers is a lucky manager, in so far as somehow he got the gig with us despite having no tactical nous whatsoever. looks like he just selects 11 players ,starts off 4-4-2 and hopes for the best. Never changes no matter who the opposition is and seems to be quite happy to see us being over run in midfield almost every game now. The biggest criticism I have of him is that in a few short months he has managed to take away the power it took us the most of 40 years to regain. Our fear factor. . Mancini for all his faults had the opposition running scared of us every game. No one fears us now and that is most damning indictment of all.
 
B\connellblue said:
There is a simple explanation really and it's becoming ever clearer now. Pellers is a lucky manager, in so far as somehow he got the gig with us despite having no tactical nous whatsoever..

How can a coach with no tactical nous do with a Malaga team full of greenhorns and journeymen what he did against Dortmund? Over 180 minutes, he was one incorrect decision away from an aggregate win over a team that completely and utterly outclassed us not too long before.

I wonder how more managers before the inquest turns to the actual players...

I mean Mancini and Pellegrini are like chalk and cheese but both faced/facing the same problems in the "year after" with completely different approaches to the game.

Our football last season was probably the greatest in City history, now suddenly it isn't.
 
Last night was actually comical to look at pellers totally bewildered with his dopey assistant.

At half time I finally thought he had grasped that 4-4-2 wasn't working. But we seemed to push both Yaya and Fernandinho forwards and then 10 mins later panicked and went straight back to his default 4-4-2.

He is tactically inept - we have to hope he has had a bollocking today. Everybody watching the game last night knew we were wide open to counter attack. Have been all season, will be on sat.
 
blue ranger said:
Last night was actually comical to look at pellers totally bewildered with his dopey assistant.

At half time I finally thought he had grasped that 4-4-2 wasn't working. But we seemed to push both Yaya and Fernandinho forwards and then 10 mins later panicked and went straight back to his default 4-4-2.

He is tactically inept - we have to hope he has had a bollocking today. Everybody watching the game last night knew we were wide open to counter attack. Have been all season, will be on sat.

You can leave Ruben out of this entirely
 
Mini crisis or bad luck. He must feel that decisions is going against him but with this squad we are more than good enough to win the games we play in. I think we will get it right. I think Pellers will get them going again. To be honest he must know if we continue to go like we are he will be finding it hard to hold onto his job. I honestly think he is the right man. I think he has his go to men and his go to men aint doing it on the pitch this season so far.
 
B\connellblue said:
There is a simple explanation really and it's becoming ever clearer now. Pellers is a lucky manager, in so far as somehow he got the gig with us despite having no tactical nous whatsoever. looks like he just selects 11 players ,starts off 4-4-2 and hopes for the best. Never changes no matter who the opposition is and seems to be quite happy to see us being over run in midfield almost every game now. The biggest criticism I have of him is that in a few short months he has managed to take away the power it took us the most of 40 years to regain. Our fear factor. . Mancini for all his faults had the opposition running scared of us every game. No one fears us now and that is most damning indictment of all.

You're going a tad OTT we're 6 points behind Chelsea who are bound to slip up at some point with 28 games left. I really would like back to back league trophies before I start to give a toss about the CL anyway. If you think back to Mancini's final game as well Wigan were hardly running scared of us so to a degree that bit is bollocks.
 
Paul Lake's Left Knee said:
blue ranger said:
Last night was actually comical to look at pellers totally bewildered with his dopey assistant.

At half time I finally thought he had grasped that 4-4-2 wasn't working. But we seemed to push both Yaya and Fernandinho forwards and then 10 mins later panicked and went straight back to his default 4-4-2.

He is tactically inept - we have to hope he has had a bollocking today. Everybody watching the game last night knew we were wide open to counter attack. Have been all season, will be on sat.

You can leave Ruben out of this entirely

Why - honestly never seen him move during the game. At times I wonder whether he is asleep lol
 
blue ranger said:
Paul Lake's Left Knee said:
blue ranger said:
Last night was actually comical to look at pellers totally bewildered with his dopey assistant.

At half time I finally thought he had grasped that 4-4-2 wasn't working. But we seemed to push both Yaya and Fernandinho forwards and then 10 mins later panicked and went straight back to his default 4-4-2.

He is tactically inept - we have to hope he has had a bollocking today. Everybody watching the game last night knew we were wide open to counter attack. Have been all season, will be on sat.

You can leave Ruben out of this entirely

Why - honestly never seen him move during the game. At times I wonder whether he is asleep lol

Ruben is a legend, he goes mental when we score and has a cult following amongst some of us. I'd be sadder to see him go than Pellers.

Just blame everyone/anyone but the players who are the ones letting the fans down at the moment.
 
The cookie monster said:
Exeter Blue I am here said:
KnaresboroughBlue said:
Exactly and the loudest calls for him to go were from the same people who now say it's too early to judge.

Didn't take the Mancini inners long to get their cocks out I see. Seriously though, is there a point to that post, unless you think his position was tenable in the long term?
It was a point that needed making & no ones geting their cocks out, your the first person to bring the term Mancini inners up.

Do you not see a similarity in the two seasons?

Without wishing to stir the pot, because I am not interested in revisiting old debates, but one big difference is how long both had had in the role as MCFC manager. Pellegrini is in the early stages of his second season, after doing a double in his first and keeping his team in four competitions for longer than any previous City manager. This time last year, people were calling for Pellegrini's head but he did fine in the end so he merits some patience, IMO.
 
blue ranger said:
Paul Lake's Left Knee said:
blue ranger said:
Last night was actually comical to look at pellers totally bewildered with his dopey assistant.

At half time I finally thought he had grasped that 4-4-2 wasn't working. But we seemed to push both Yaya and Fernandinho forwards and then 10 mins later panicked and went straight back to his default 4-4-2.

He is tactically inept - we have to hope he has had a bollocking today. Everybody watching the game last night knew we were wide open to counter attack. Have been all season, will be on sat.

You can leave Ruben out of this entirely

Why - honestly never seen him move during the game. At times I wonder whether he is asleep lol

Nobody, and I mean nobody, disrespects Ruben.

Capiche ?
 
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