Marc Cucurella

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Something is going on with this deal. It’s not about the player valuation. Smoke and mirrors.
I have thought that, are we dragging it out so we can sign someone else maybe? This drama Brighton are creating in the media does enable us to go about our business, we know they’ll not budge so keep upping our bid below their base amount. I’m more in hope than belief but wouldn’t surprise me, we’ve signed players out the blue before.
 
I don’t remember the 35m thing you’re talking about, so bloom is doing a levy? Very interesting.

Personally I’d consider 45m to be a fair price all things considered
I dont know either where the £35m has come from. The first time i knew how much Brighton wanted was ehen it came out your offer was £30m and a tweet saying £20m was the difference.
 
They charged Arsenal £50 million for Ben White! What are you talking about?

You can’t guarantee anything.
Don't ask me why, but this had me laughing my balls off.
I gotta give you props on this one CWC.
 
I don't really see an issue with Brighton looking for a fee somewhere close to 50m for their best player. For those saying he's only had one good season it's very easy to flip that and say the guy has come to a new country and totally smashed it straight from the off, ending up one of the top full-backs in the league. How high is his ceiling? Especially being coached by someone like Pep who will in all probability improve him even further.

Having said that, I think if City have offered anywhere close to 45m (we don't really know the ins and outs of what's gone on), it would be a mistake for Brighton not to work something out, particularly after the transfer request. Although it might not seem much, it's still a very public message that a player has moved from 'liking the possibility of furthering their career, but will respect their club's wishes,' to 'no longer wants to play for the club and is actively seeking an escape'.

Gut feeling is Bloom appears too entrenched now but 'undisclosed fee' can still leave all parties effectively saving face. We'll see.
 
Yep - they’ll get the ‘We showed City who’s boss’ cup, previously held by Tottenham and Napoli amongst others, while we’ll quietly get on with winning the League instead.

They can talk about it in hallowed, hushed tones on the stadium tour for years to come.

Summer 2022 - our crowning moment. Our great leader stuck it to those bastards at City, and everyone was talking about us………for a couple of weeks. The nation’s gaze was upon us, dazzled by our audacity. Yes, they might have gone on and won the league anyway - and yes, no fucker worth anything would ever consider signing for us again. And I know we sold him to Barcelona on tick for half the price the next summer. But that summer of ‘22 - boy did we show them. We really stuck it to them. Ask your granddad about it!
LMFAO.
 
I think some of the press are pushing a false narrative more so than anything firm coming out directly from Brighton.

Many in the media would enjoy nothing more than trying to sabotage this transaction.
 
Noel whelan said £35m, the same guy who said Brighton should sell Ben white to Leeds for £20m
 
He isn’t worth £30m + a player so it won’t get done. City didn’t want to sell Zinchenko, he wanted to go so we facilitated that. He was worth £32M to Arsenal. He is an established international and has captained his country. He is a better player that Cucurella. He wasn’t let go so we could buy Cucurella, it was his time to go. His value has no bearing on a replacement LB. To suggest so is infantile.
Loved Zinchenko, always put in a shift for City and I wish him well. However, defensively Zin was not the best and I certainly think Cucurella is better in that area.
 
As a Brighton fan it's fascinating reading this thread and getting the other side's perspective. Having seen a lot of Cucurella live, I think he's an excellent player - and essential to the way we played for much of last season. We may be "small" in Premier League terms, and obviously we're still newbies when it comes to the big time - but the club IS ambitious, and Tony Bloom has shown many times that he will not sell unless he gets the right money (even if the player gets upset and puts in a transfer request). It's part of the club's strategy to be a long-term player in the EPL. We don't have the resources of City, and never will have. But we ARE good at unearthing young talent and fostering it. Not unlike City, but on a very small sale (eg: the relationship with Royal Union St Gilloise in Belgium, and the number of young players we currently have out on loan). We definitely do NOT take young players from bigger clubs on loan - so the prospect of fostering a relationship with City and getting some of your brightest U23s is a non-starter. And setting a perceived high price has nothing to do with BHA wanting to "get one over" City. We're not in that game! We're too small for anyone to worry about us!!
At the end of the day we MAY sell Cucurella to City, but it will take a lot more than has been offered. Cucurella is, after all, a significant upgrade on Ake. But if City don't meet the valuation, then that's fine...we keep an excellent player who has 4 years left on his contract. Cucurella may be disappointed if that's the way it pans out, but he seems a great guy, and he's hardly likely to goon strike for 4 years!
I'm just asking, why not take 45 mil and parlay Cucu into unearthing 3 more guys and fostering them? Triple the return in one year is hardly unreasonable for a kid who actually wants the move.
 
Worringly if/when we walk away from this, who is out there that can slot in to the system with a decent amount of experience (granted Cucurella only has a season in the prem) that isn’t going to be subject to City tax, especially if the selling club knows we’ve walk edaway from the deal. We’ll have our pants pulled down regardless so although I hate it surely it’s better for it to happen with a player who Pep actively wants and sees as his number 1 choice
 
This! Spot on

The people saying we're good to go must've missed the final stages of the season whereby we had Fernandinho at RB, Cancelo covering for an inured Walker. Zinny at LB, Ake, Stones and Dias all out with a limping Laporte hobbling around the pitch. Rodri was covering at CB at one point

We have no Fernandinho nor Zinny. We have absolutely no out and out LB. JWE wasn't even thought of. How on gods green Earth do people think we "are good to go"

......the mind boggles
Because
 
This! Spot on

The people saying we're good to go must've missed the final stages of the season whereby we had Fernandinho at RB, Cancelo covering for an inured Walker. Zinny at LB, Ake, Stones and Dias all out with a limping Laporte hobbling around the pitch. Rodri was covering at CB at one point

We have no Fernandinho nor Zinny. We have absolutely no out and out LB. JWE wasn't even thought of. How on gods green Earth do people think we "are good to go"

......the mind boggles
Because if the club says so, it must be so.
 
I feel sorry for the lad now. Our interest in him got him excited enough to put in a transfer request, but now he is being left out to dry a bit. Hope he doesn't have too much hate aimed at him by brighton and the fans.
I’m gutted for him. He’ll be stuck on a contract paying him several million a year to play football. Devastated.
 
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