Martin Demichelis

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TCIB said:
declovesvini33 said:
nobody can eat fifty eggs said:
"Disastrous" in defence oh ok then. He tried to tackle the worlds best player and caught him outside the area after trying to cover for his captain who'd played said attacker on side :-/
can you really criticise Kompany who was immense tonight? At the the end of the day that tackle was plain stupid it not only gave away a goal but killed the tie by sending us down to ten men. That sums up what a liability he is and if you're forgetting Joleon and Vinny were in the best defence
in the league in our title winning season so why is it not good enough now?

-- Wed Feb 19, 2014 2:30 am --

nobody can eat fifty eggs said:
Fuck me he's gone from "Disastrous" to only unreliable in one post.

-- Wed Feb 19, 2014 2:31 am --

declovesvini33 said:
can you really criticise Kompany who was immense tonight? At the the end of the day that tackle was plain stupid it not only gave away a goal but killed the tie by sending us down to ten men. That sums up what a liability he is and if you're forgetting Joleon and Vinny were in the best defence
in the league in our title winning season so why is it not good enough now?

-- Wed Feb 19, 2014 2:30 am --
if you're unreliable against teams like Barcelona it ends in disaster like tonight


No wonder you don't post much because you talk some fucking shite pal.


Lescott is limited as a player, he can block shots and get his head on the ball well but is no good with it at his feet.
Something the boss needs all his players to be comfortable with
He is also a couple of years older and the wrong side of 30 now and never had much pace to begin with.
There are you reasons he is not suitable for us now in a pairing against the top teams.

MD did fine and we came unstuck just twice all match against Barcelona.
We know he has no pace but he just got landed with Messi that one time, yeah you know the worlds best player.
Give me a break you utter fool.

Tonight was no disaster, these are the sensationalist words of a troll.

You do realise the bit in bold is exactly how DM played last night. He blocked the ball, he won a few headers but his passing and dribbling was atrocious. He played exactly like Lescott last night. Also dunno why his age is an issue when DM is 33. He fucked up he knows it, his team mates certainly knew it and the whole world watched it as well. Either we give Nasty a run in the team when fit to get some confidence and recapture his form from last season or we make do with Lescott until the summer when we buy another CB. DM should be cover only.
 
I thought he had a great 50 odd minutes. We just got caught out by an incorrect decision to not award the foul on Navas. A few seconds later Kompany was caught just out of position and the worlds best player was through on goal. Demichelis had been winning everything up to that point and made the decision to try to win the ball again. Had Kompany been in his position I'm pretty sure he'd have attempted the challenge too.

I like Lescott and he is great when up against a big physical striker like Drogba but Demichellis is the superior defender and fits our system and style of play much better.

It was a split second decision tonight and he got it wrong but all top defenders suffer from that every now and again and in big games.
 
RandomJ said:
TCIB said:
declovesvini33 said:
can you really criticise Kompany who was immense tonight? At the the end of the day that tackle was plain stupid it not only gave away a goal but killed the tie by sending us down to ten men. That sums up what a liability he is and if you're forgetting Joleon and Vinny were in the best defence
in the league in our title winning season so why is it not good enough now?

-- Wed Feb 19, 2014 2:30 am --



-- Wed Feb 19, 2014 2:31 am --

if you're unreliable against teams like Barcelona it ends in disaster like tonight


No wonder you don't post much because you talk some fucking shite pal.


Lescott is limited as a player, he can block shots and get his head on the ball well but is no good with it at his feet.
Something the boss needs all his players to be comfortable with
He is also a couple of years older and the wrong side of 30 now and never had much pace to begin with.
There are you reasons he is not suitable for us now in a pairing against the top teams.

MD did fine and we came unstuck just twice all match against Barcelona.
We know he has no pace but he just got landed with Messi that one time, yeah you know the worlds best player.
Give me a break you utter fool.

Tonight was no disaster, these are the sensationalist words of a troll.

You do realise the bit in bold is exactly how DM played last night. He blocked the ball, he won a few headers but his passing and dribbling was atrocious. He played exactly like Lescott last night. Also dunno why his age is an issue when DM is 33. He fucked up he knows it, his team mates certainly knew it and the whole world watched it as well. Either we give Nasty a run in the team to get some confidence and recapture his form from last season or we make do with Lescott until the summer when we buy another CB.


I am not arguing for Lescott above MD i am explaining why Lescott and Vinnie are not a good enough back pairing together and the issues are not with Kompany.
I will say though passing wise yesterday MD was poor but this was an exception to the rule.
He is happy with the ball at his feet and usually makes some fine passes.

I would also be pretty sure in saying we never wanted MD to in a 1 on 1 type situation with Messi but it happened and it is what it is.
They are a damned good team and saw that one sliver of a chance and took it.
 
TCIB said:
declovesvini33 said:
nobody can eat fifty eggs said:
"Disastrous" in defence oh ok then. He tried to tackle the worlds best player and caught him outside the area after trying to cover for his captain who'd played said attacker on side :-/
can you really criticise Kompany who was immense tonight? At the the end of the day that tackle was plain stupid it not only gave away a goal but killed the tie by sending us down to ten men. That sums up what a liability he is and if you're forgetting Joleon and Vinny were in the best defence
in the league in our title winning season so why is it not good enough now?

-- Wed Feb 19, 2014 2:30 am --

nobody can eat fifty eggs said:
Fuck me he's gone from "Disastrous" to only unreliable in one post.

-- Wed Feb 19, 2014 2:31 am --

declovesvini33 said:
can you really criticise Kompany who was immense tonight? At the the end of the day that tackle was plain stupid it not only gave away a goal but killed the tie by sending us down to ten men. That sums up what a liability he is and if you're forgetting Joleon and Vinny were in the best defence
in the league in our title winning season so why is it not good enough now?

-- Wed Feb 19, 2014 2:30 am --
if you're unreliable against teams like Barcelona it ends in disaster like tonight


No wonder you don't post much because you talk some fucking shite pal.


Lescott is limited as a player, he can block shots and get his head on the ball well but is no good with it at his feet.
Something the boss needs all his players to be comfortable with
He is also a couple of years older and the wrong side of 30 now and never had much pace to begin with.
There are you reasons he is not suitable for us now in a pairing against the top teams.

MD did fine and we came unstuck just twice all match against Barcelona.
We know he has no pace but he just got landed with Messi that one time, yeah you know the worlds best player.
Give me a break you utter fool.

Tonight was no disaster, these are the sensationalist words of a troll.

Because this guys got his opinion on demechellis you don't like it and think you can talk to him like he's a dick head and call him an utter fool !!

Call me one aswell because for me he should be on the bench at fucking best, he was bought for cover and thats where he should stay. COVER ONLY!!

Whether the tackle started in or out of the area is immaterial , either way he was fucking walking , simple as that, he's fucking brain dead at times and he has these "at times" nearly every game he plays- he's always got a fuckin mistake waiting to happen.

Hw knows you can't tackle from behind, so why did he do it knowing he was last man- yeah they would have scored but we still would have had 11 v 11.

He found himself isolated cause he had dropped off from vinnie s line that he should have been holding with him in my opinion,this allowed messi to exploit his mistake.(was it messi ? I cant remember im getting tired!)

But never mind this fuckin manager loves his sorry arse and he can't do no wrong, so dont worry all you MD admirers he will be back soon enough.

For what its worth i thought he was doing ok tonight but as i say - mistake waiting to happen- dont trust him especially against quality opposition.

And for all those who want to point out how lescott did tonight - how would MD played against the 11 men of barca , obviously we came under more pressure with them having the extra man, it must have been a difficult game for lescott to join in my opinion.

Anyway all is not lost yet, when you play barca you need your best team out and fully fit- that we didnt have tonight but for the away leg we hopefully will so we will see.

Just a side issue, apparently tonight we was the first english team in i think 10 years of the champs league not to field or involve at some stage of the game an english outfield player!!

Does this guy not like any english players, he's never linked with any either !!
I find this kind of unfair on the likes of Milner who was excellent against chelsea by the way, but pellegrini doesn't seem to even give him a second glance. - what are your thoughts on this ??
 
skybluepete said:
TCIB said:
declovesvini33 said:
can you really criticise Kompany who was immense tonight? At the the end of the day that tackle was plain stupid it not only gave away a goal but killed the tie by sending us down to ten men. That sums up what a liability he is and if you're forgetting Joleon and Vinny were in the best defence
in the league in our title winning season so why is it not good enough now?

-- Wed Feb 19, 2014 2:30 am --



-- Wed Feb 19, 2014 2:31 am --

if you're unreliable against teams like Barcelona it ends in disaster like tonight


No wonder you don't post much because you talk some fucking shite pal.


Lescott is limited as a player, he can block shots and get his head on the ball well but is no good with it at his feet.
Something the boss needs all his players to be comfortable with
He is also a couple of years older and the wrong side of 30 now and never had much pace to begin with.
There are you reasons he is not suitable for us now in a pairing against the top teams.

MD did fine and we came unstuck just twice all match against Barcelona.
We know he has no pace but he just got landed with Messi that one time, yeah you know the worlds best player.
Give me a break you utter fool.

Tonight was no disaster, these are the sensationalist words of a troll.

Because this guys got his opinion on demechellis you don't like it and think you can talk to him like he's a dick head and call him an utter fool !!

Call me one aswell because for me he should be on the bench at fucking best, he was bought for cover and thats where he should stay. COVER ONLY!!

Whether the tackle started in or out of the area is immaterial , either way he was fucking walking , simple as that, he's fucking brain dead at times and he has these "at times" nearly every game he plays- he's always got a fuckin mistake waiting to happen.

Hw knows you can't tackle from behind, so why did he do it knowing he was last man- yeah they would have scored but we still would have had 11 v 11.

He found himself isolated cause he had dropped off from vinnie s line that he should have been holding with him in my opinion,this allowed messi to exploit his mistake.(was it messi ? I cant remember im getting tired!)

But never mind this fuckin manager loves his sorry arse and he can't do no wrong, so dont worry all you MD admirers he will be back soon enough.

For what its worth i thought he was doing ok tonight but as i say - mistake waiting to happen- dont trust him especially against quality opposition.

And for all those who want to point out how lescott did tonight - how would MD played against the 11 men of barca , obviously we came under more pressure with them having the extra man, it must have been a difficult game for lescott to join in my opinion.

Anyway all is not lost yet, when you play barca you need your best team out and fully fit- that we didnt have tonight but for the away leg we hopefully will so we will see.

Just a side issue, apparently tonight we was the first english team in i think 10 years of the champs league not to field or involve at some stage of the game an english outfield player!!

Does this guy not like any english players, he's never linked with any either !!
I find this kind of unfair on the likes of Milner who was excellent against chelsea by the way, but pellegrini doesn't seem to even give him a second glance. - what are your thoughts on this ??



Beyond that i called someone an "utter fool" for making what i found a stupid reasoning/post/comment.
Hardly talking to him like a "dick head".

I don't think you will be here to much longer anyway you trolling so and so.
 
skybluepete said:
TCIB said:
declovesvini33 said:
can you really criticise Kompany who was immense tonight? At the the end of the day that tackle was plain stupid it not only gave away a goal but killed the tie by sending us down to ten men. That sums up what a liability he is and if you're forgetting Joleon and Vinny were in the best defence
in the league in our title winning season so why is it not good enough now?

-- Wed Feb 19, 2014 2:30 am --



-- Wed Feb 19, 2014 2:31 am --

if you're unreliable against teams like Barcelona it ends in disaster like tonight


No wonder you don't post much because you talk some fucking shite pal.


Lescott is limited as a player, he can block shots and get his head on the ball well but is no good with it at his feet.
Something the boss needs all his players to be comfortable with
He is also a couple of years older and the wrong side of 30 now and never had much pace to begin with.
There are you reasons he is not suitable for us now in a pairing against the top teams.

MD did fine and we came unstuck just twice all match against Barcelona.
We know he has no pace but he just got landed with Messi that one time, yeah you know the worlds best player.
Give me a break you utter fool.

Tonight was no disaster, these are the sensationalist words of a troll.

Because this guys got his opinion on demechellis you don't like it and think you can talk to him like he's a dick head and call him an utter fool !!

Call me one aswell because for me he should be on the bench at fucking best, he was bought for cover and thats where he should stay. COVER ONLY!!

Whether the tackle started in or out of the area is immaterial , either way he was fucking walking , simple as that, he's fucking brain dead at times and he has these "at times" nearly every game he plays- he's always got a fuckin mistake waiting to happen.

Hw knows you can't tackle from behind, so why did he do it knowing he was last man- yeah they would have scored but we still would have had 11 v 11.

He found himself isolated cause he had dropped off from vinnie s line that he should have been holding with him in my opinion,this allowed messi to exploit his mistake.(was it messi ? I cant remember im getting tired!)

But never mind this fuckin manager loves his sorry arse and he can't do no wrong, so dont worry all you MD admirers he will be back soon enough.

For what its worth i thought he was doing ok tonight but as i say - mistake waiting to happen- dont trust him especially against quality opposition.

And for all those who want to point out how lescott did tonight - how would MD played against the 11 men of barca , obviously we came under more pressure with them having the extra man, it must have been a difficult game for lescott to join in my opinion.

Anyway all is not lost yet, when you play barca you need your best team out and fully fit- that we didnt have tonight but for the away leg we hopefully will so we will see.

Just a side issue, apparently tonight we was the first english team in i think 10 years of the champs league not to field or involve at some stage of the game an english outfield player!!

Does this guy not like any english players, he's never linked with any either !!
I find this kind of unfair on the likes of Milner who was excellent against chelsea by the way, but pellegrini doesn't seem to even give him a second glance. - what are your thoughts on this ??

Milner was suspended for this game.

MP has made his call on Lescott, Rodwell and Richards etc and by and large has played them when necessary only.

in saying that Rodwell and Richards have had injury interrupted seasons but I think neither are seen as integral in the season/s ahead.

They might loan Rodwell out next season and hope he gets a good run in another premiership side to see if he has a future at City.

I would expect Richards might have to find another club to further his career.

Barry and Lescott will move away permanently in the summer.

I am sure if England players are good enough and available we would be in for them.
 
cleavers said:
skybluepete said:
cleavers said:
He's manager of the club you support....

sad.

Why is it it sad pal - are you questioning my support ??
this fukin manager ?

You really are touchy about mr pellegrini aren't you - no malice meant by what i said but i do find it a bit worrying that he seems to have his favourites and very limited use of any english players or interest in them.
 
skybluepete said:
cleavers said:
skybluepete said:
Why is it it sad pal - are you questioning my support ??
this fukin manager ?

You really are touchy about mr pellegrini aren't you - no malice meant by what i said but i do find it a bit worrying that he seems to have his favourites and very limited use of any english players or interest in them.


I question your support and will happily do so to your face.
 
skybluepete said:
cleavers said:
skybluepete said:
Why is it it sad pal - are you questioning my support ??
this fukin manager ?

You really are touchy about mr pellegrini aren't you - no malice meant by what i said but i do find it a bit worrying that he seems to have his favourites and very limited use of any english players or interest in them.

Notwithstanding the injuries to Rodwell and Richards this season do you really think they are good enough in these games and the big games coming up?

I think his use of Milner with maybe one or two exceptions has been quite reasonable this season.

You seem to have overlooked the fact that Milner was not available for this game.

If there are England players that are good enough for where we need to be in seasons ahead we will be after them like all the other.

Would you go after Luke Shaw for example over the summer?
 
Who paid the ref? Seriously this c*nt got it all wrong all night. Complete toss pot, hate playing in Europe for this reason.. it still makes me angry
 
skybluepete said:
You really are touchy about mr pellegrini aren't you - no malice meant by what i said but i do find it a bit worrying that he seems to have his favourites and very limited use of any english players or interest in them.
No I'm not at all touchy about the manager, but he's our manager, and I'm right behind him, forgive me for that, I like the style he plays, the goals we score, and the players he picks.

I'll remind you that you said "this fuckin manager", but obviously there was no malice meant. Its a comment that says more than enough to me about your view of the manager, carry on hating, I'll carry on supporting.

By the way, there is a reason he doesn't use some of our english players at this level, its because quite simply, like most english players, they're not good enough (I'm sure Milner would have started tonight, but he was suspended).
 
MDM cost us the game tonight. Even if Messi had scored I would have still fancied us for a draw 11 v 11. Of all the teams to play a man down Barca = no thanks. MDM is on a par with Titus Bramble in his pomp. Clumsy, rash, slow as fuck, out of his depth. Tonight is no suprise though, the minute the transfer window closed with no cb signed, we all knew this would be the script.
 
swblue7 said:
MDM cost us the game tonight. Even if Messi had scored I would have still fancied us for a draw 11 v 11. Of all the teams to play a man down Barca = no thanks. MDM is on a par with Titus Bramble in his pomp. Clumsy, rash, slow as fuck, out of his depth. Tonight is no suprise though, the minute the transfer window closed with no cb signed, we all knew this would be the script.


This is where i stopped taking your opinion seriously.
 
Was a rock defensively tonight but pretty shit with the ball. Then made a completely suicidal decision, to be as experienced as he is and attempt that tackle on Messi is just ludicrous and a game changer. They hadn't gotten through before that and there was no guarantee he was going to score. Bewildering tackle.
 
I hope both him and Lescott will leave and let us buy two new CB's both good enough for the Pellegrini style, not injury prone, fast defenders that are good on the ball, not scared of it or just loses it for the sake of it or prone to huge errors.

For this season I just hope Demichelis wont cost us more games especially in the league.
 
MD only has 2 qualities left to his game .... heading and experience. He has no pace, cant pass and either fouls when he tackles or is too slow when he tackles, everyone skips past him. And his 'experience' counted for squat when he made that suicide tackle.

His performance in the loss to Chelsea should have set off alarm bells in Pellegrini's head, so have to assume Manuel has blinkers on and chooses loyalty or favouritism over quality.

Frankly, if we have no one better than Demichelis, then we are screwed before we start.
 
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