Martin Demichelis

[Prestwich_Blue]

Not happy with Demichelis tonight but look at the choices we have.

MDM - who is experienced and composed on the ball (although he was sloppy tonight) but slow and goes to ground too easily.

Lescott - who is a better pure defender but hopeless on the ball (as that WTF back pass showed)

Nastasic - who looks very vulnerable at the moment and seems to be suffering second season syndrome. But he's young enough to improve.

Personally I think you shouldn't chop and change your centre-backs and that Kompany/Lescott is the best of the possible current combinations.

 

[RandomJ]

It got pathetic about 20 pages ago.

Why was that when you started posting?

No it was when you and others decided to scapegoat City players for losing to the best team in the world for the last 5 years.

Ah of course the "they are just better than us" argument. Wondered when that would rear it's head. Well we comfortably saw off the best team in the world the first half and created quite a few chances with 11 players. We even caused them a lot of trouble with just 10 men. The decisive factor of this game? DM getting himself sent off and giving them a free goal. That is why he is rightly getting criticised because we could have got something from this game.

 

[ForzaMancini]

Not happy with Demichelis tonight but look at the choices we have.

MDM - who is experienced and composed on the ball (although he was sloppy tonight) but slow and goes to ground too easily.

Lescott - who is a better pure defender but hopeless on the ball (as that WTF back pass showed)

Nastasic - who looks very vulnerable at the moment and seems to be suffering second season syndrome. But he's young enough to improve.

Personally I think you shouldn't chop and change your centre-backs and that Kompany/Lescott is the best of the possible current combinations.

True but the way Barca chase down our players and keep the pressure on us dictated that Lescott would have been a disaster waiting to happen this game. Nastasic would have been ideal today but his poor form and injury meant Demichellis had to play to be honest.<br /><br />-- Wed Feb 19, 2014 1:46 am --<br /><br />

Why was that when you started posting?

No it was when you and others decided to scapegoat City players for losing to the best team in the world for the last 5 years.

Ah of course the "they are just better than us" argument. Wondered when that would rear it's head. Well we comfortably saw off the best team in the world the first half and created quite a few chances with 11 players. We even caused them a lot of trouble with just 10 men. The decisive factor of this game? DM getting himself sent off and giving them a free goal. That is why he is rightly getting criticised because we could have got something from this game.

Why was he in a position where he could even get sent off? Again, stop making him the scapegoat. He is only partly responsible.

 

[Silva Citizen]

Why was that when you started posting?

No it was when you and others decided to scapegoat City players for losing to the best team in the world for the last 5 years.

Ah of course the "they are just better than us" argument. Wondered when that would rear it's head. Well we comfortably saw off the best team in the world the first half and created quite a few chances with 11 players. We even caused them a lot of trouble with just 10 men. The decisive factor of this game? DM getting himself sent off and giving them a free goal. That is why he is rightly getting criticised because we could have got something from this game.

Can't be bothered to answer this, you win. Keep your bat and ball, its yours, and nobody thats better than you can play with it

CTID..

 

[Marvin]

Not happy with Demichelis tonight but look at the choices we have.

MDM - who is experienced and composed on the ball (although he was sloppy tonight) but slow and goes to ground too easily.

Lescott - who is a better pure defender but hopeless on the ball (as that WTF back pass showed)

Nastasic - who looks very vulnerable at the moment and seems to be suffering second season syndrome. But he's young enough to improve.

Personally I think you shouldn't chop and change your centre-backs and that Kompany/Lescott is the best of the possible current combinations.

Isn't Nasty injured? He'd be my 1st choice, then Demchelis, then Lescott, Depends who we're playing

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

Not happy with Demichelis tonight but look at the choices we have.

MDM - who is experienced and composed on the ball (although he was sloppy tonight) but slow and goes to ground too easily.

Lescott - who is a better pure defender but hopeless on the ball (as that WTF back pass showed)

Nastasic - who looks very vulnerable at the moment and seems to be suffering second season syndrome. But he's young enough to improve.

Personally I think you shouldn't chop and change your centre-backs and that Kompany/Lescott is the best of the possible current combinations.

True but the way Barca chase down our players and keep the pressure on us dictated that Lescott would have been a disaster waiting to happen this game. Nastasic would have been ideal today but his poor form and injury meant Demichellis had to play to be honest.

Why was he in a position where he could even get sent off? Again, stop making him the scapegoat. He is only partly responsible.[/quote]
I wasn't making him the scapegoat just pointing out there's no obvious candidate to partner Vinny and that all of the other centre-backs have their weaknesses. It was Kompany who played Messi onside.

 

[nobody can eat fifty eggs]

Not happy with Demichelis tonight but look at the choices we have.

MDM - who is experienced and composed on the ball (although he was sloppy tonight) but slow and goes to ground too easily.

Lescott - who is a better pure defender but hopeless on the ball (as that WTF back pass showed)

Nastasic - who looks very vulnerable at the moment and seems to be suffering second season syndrome. But he's young enough to improve.

Personally I think you shouldn't chop and change your centre-backs and that Kompany/Lescott is the best of the possible current combinations.

Isn't Nasty injured? He'd be my 1st choice, then Demchelis, then Lescott, Depends who we're playing

Yes he is, but some have overlooked that fact!

 

[ForzaMancini]

Not happy with Demichelis tonight but look at the choices we have.

MDM - who is experienced and composed on the ball (although he was sloppy tonight) but slow and goes to ground too easily.

Lescott - who is a better pure defender but hopeless on the ball (as that WTF back pass showed)

Nastasic - who looks very vulnerable at the moment and seems to be suffering second season syndrome. But he's young enough to improve.

Personally I think you shouldn't chop and change your centre-backs and that Kompany/Lescott is the best of the possible current combinations.

True but the way Barca chase down our players and keep the pressure on us dictated that Lescott would have been a disaster waiting to happen this game. Nastasic would have been ideal today but his poor form and injury meant Demichellis had to play to be honest.

Why was he in a position where he could even get sent off? Again, stop making him the scapegoat. He is only partly responsible.

I wasn't making him the scapegoat just pointing out there's no obvious candidate to partner Vinny and that all of the other centre-backs have their weaknesses. It was Kompany who played Messi onside.[/quote]

Sorry mate that second part you've quoted wasn't in response to your comment, it was to the one after yours.

 

[declovesvini33]

I'm sorry but Demichelis is a liability and it's been proven many times this season already tonight has just been the most fatal. As for most people's arguments as to why he should be in the side I'm not for one second accepting all this nonsense regarding his experience and his ball playing skills you! You pick your defence on who is best at preventing the other team scoring and at this moment that is Lescott (due to nastasic 's injuries and lack of form) when has any team ever picked a defenc because of it's ability on the ball it's priority is to prevent the other team scoring?

 

[Marvin]

I'm sorry but Demichelis is a liability and it's been proven many times this season already tonight has just been the most fatal. As for most people's arguments as to why he should be in the side I'm not for one second accepting all this nonsense regarding his experience and his ball playing skills you! You pick your defence on who is best at preventing the other team scoring and at this moment that is Lescott (due to nastasic 's injuries and lack of form) when has any team ever picked a defenc because of it's ability on the ball it's priority is to prevent the other team scoring?

But Lescott would present the ball to the opposition. barca press you and your defenders have to be very good on the ball. Hoof it up field and you don't see it for 3 minutes.

 

[nobody can eat fifty eggs]

I'm sorry but Demichelis is a liability and it's been proven many times this season already tonight has just been the most fatal. As for most people's arguments as to why he should be in the side I'm not for one second accepting all this nonsense regarding his experience and his ball playing skills you! You pick your defence on who is best at preventing the other team scoring and at this moment that is Lescott (due to nastasic 's injuries and lack of form) when has any team ever picked a defenc because of it's ability on the ball it's priority is to prevent the other team scoring?

So you're saying that we should have a back four of cloggers when it is clear that all the best sides in the world all have defenders who are excellent on the ball and can defend also?

 

[Italian Manc]

Was he just a last option bargain buy because we didn't get Pepe over the summer?

Has he performed in the majority of the games he's played?

Is he good enough in the big top level games?

It's a yes, yes, no to those questions from me.

He'll do a job but not for too long if you want my opinion.

...and as long as he's wearing blue I'll cheer him on.

 

[nobody can eat fifty eggs]

Was he just a last option bargain buy because we didn't get Pepe over the summer?

Has he performed in the majority of the games he's played?

Is he good enough in the big top level games?

It's a yes, yes, no to those questions from me.

He'll do a job but not for too long if you want my opinion.

...and as long as he's wearing blue I'll cheer him on.

Great post.

 

[declovesvini33]

I'm sorry but Demichelis is a liability and it's been proven many times this season already tonight has just been the most fatal. As for most people's arguments as to why he should be in the side I'm not for one second accepting all this nonsense regarding his experience and his ball playing skills you! You pick your defence on who is best at preventing the other team scoring and at this moment that is Lescott (due to nastasic 's injuries and lack of form) when has any team ever picked a defenc because of it's ability on the ball it's priority is to prevent the other team scoring?

So you're saying that we should have a back four of cloggers when it is clear that all the best sides in the world all have defenders who are excellent on the ball and can defend also?

I'd rather a defender who isn't necessarily good on the ball but does his job i.e. Lescott than a someone who can play the ball out but is quite frankly disastrous in defence i.e. Demichelis

 

[nobody can eat fifty eggs]

I'm sorry but Demichelis is a liability and it's been proven many times this season already tonight has just been the most fatal. As for most people's arguments as to why he should be in the side I'm not for one second accepting all this nonsense regarding his experience and his ball playing skills you! You pick your defence on who is best at preventing the other team scoring and at this moment that is Lescott (due to nastasic 's injuries and lack of form) when has any team ever picked a defenc because of it's ability on the ball it's priority is to prevent the other team scoring?

So you're saying that we should have a back four of cloggers when it is clear that all the best sides in the world all have defenders who are excellent on the ball and can defend also?

I'd rather a defender who isn't necessarily good on the ball but does his job i.e. Lescott than a someone who can play the ball out but is quite frankly disastrous in defence i.e. Demichelis

"Disastrous" in defence oh ok then. He tried to tackle the worlds best player and caught him outside the area after trying to cover for his captain who'd played said attacker on side :-/

 

[declovesvini33]

I'm sorry but Demichelis is a liability and it's been proven many times this season already tonight has just been the most fatal. As for most people's arguments as to why he should be in the side I'm not for one second accepting all this nonsense regarding his experience and his ball playing skills you! You pick your defence on who is best at preventing the other team scoring and at this moment that is Lescott (due to nastasic 's injuries and lack of form) when has any team ever picked a defenc because of it's ability on the ball it's priority is to prevent the other team scoring?

But Lescott would present the ball to the opposition. barca press you and your defenders have to be very good on the ball. Hoof it up field and you don't see it for 3 minutes.

quite sure with Demichelis in the side we still only had about 30% possession and gave it away cheaply at the back? At then end of the day a defenders duty is to defend Lescott gives us that Demichelis on the other hand is just too unreliable

 

[nobody can eat fifty eggs]

I'm sorry but Demichelis is a liability and it's been proven many times this season already tonight has just been the most fatal. As for most people's arguments as to why he should be in the side I'm not for one second accepting all this nonsense regarding his experience and his ball playing skills you! You pick your defence on who is best at preventing the other team scoring and at this moment that is Lescott (due to nastasic 's injuries and lack of form) when has any team ever picked a defenc because of it's ability on the ball it's priority is to prevent the other team scoring?

But Lescott would present the ball to the opposition. barca press you and your defenders have to be very good on the ball. Hoof it up field and you don't see it for 3 minutes.

quite sure with Demichelis in the side we still only had about 30% possession and gave it away cheaply at the back? At then end of the day a defenders duty is to defend Lescott gives us that Demichelis on the other hand is just too unreliable

Fuck me he's gone from "Disastrous" to only unreliable in one post.

 

[declovesvini33]

So you're saying that we should have a back four of cloggers when it is clear that all the best sides in the world all have defenders who are excellent on the ball and can defend also?

I'd rather a defender who isn't necessarily good on the ball but does his job i.e. Lescott than a someone who can play the ball out but is quite frankly disastrous in defence i.e. Demichelis

"Disastrous" in defence oh ok then. He tried to tackle the worlds best player and caught him outside the area after trying to cover for his captain who'd played said attacker on side :-/

can you really criticise Kompany who was immense tonight? At the the end of the day that tackle was plain stupid it not only gave away a goal but killed the tie by sending us down to ten men. That sums up what a liability he is and if you're forgetting Joleon and Vinny were in the best defence
in the league in our title winning season so why is it not good enough now?

-- Wed Feb 19, 2014 2:30 am --

But Lescott would present the ball to the opposition. barca press you and your defenders have to be very good on the ball. Hoof it up field and you don't see it for 3 minutes.

quite sure with Demichelis in the side we still only had about 30% possession and gave it away cheaply at the back? At then end of the day a defenders duty is to defend Lescott gives us that Demichelis on the other hand is just too unreliable

Fuck me he's gone from "Disastrous" to only unreliable in one post.

<br /><br />-- Wed Feb 19, 2014 2:31 am --<br /><br />

I'd rather a defender who isn't necessarily good on the ball but does his job i.e. Lescott than a someone who can play the ball out but is quite frankly disastrous in defence i.e. Demichelis

"Disastrous" in defence oh ok then. He tried to tackle the worlds best player and caught him outside the area after trying to cover for his captain who'd played said attacker on side :-/

can you really criticise Kompany who was immense tonight? At the the end of the day that tackle was plain stupid it not only gave away a goal but killed the tie by sending us down to ten men. That sums up what a liability he is and if you're forgetting Joleon and Vinny were in the best defence
in the league in our title winning season so why is it not good enough now?

-- Wed Feb 19, 2014 2:30 am --

quite sure with Demichelis in the side we still only had about 30% possession and gave it away cheaply at the back? At then end of the day a defenders duty is to defend Lescott gives us that Demichelis on the other hand is just too unreliable

Fuck me he's gone from "Disastrous" to only unreliable in one post.

if you're unreliable against teams like Barcelona it ends in disaster like tonight

 

[sutty66]

Got to be lescott and kompany till end if season now
Left and right combo

 

[TCIB]

I'd rather a defender who isn't necessarily good on the ball but does his job i.e. Lescott than a someone who can play the ball out but is quite frankly disastrous in defence i.e. Demichelis

"Disastrous" in defence oh ok then. He tried to tackle the worlds best player and caught him outside the area after trying to cover for his captain who'd played said attacker on side :-/

can you really criticise Kompany who was immense tonight? At the the end of the day that tackle was plain stupid it not only gave away a goal but killed the tie by sending us down to ten men. That sums up what a liability he is and if you're forgetting Joleon and Vinny were in the best defence
in the league in our title winning season so why is it not good enough now?

-- Wed Feb 19, 2014 2:30 am --

quite sure with Demichelis in the side we still only had about 30% possession and gave it away cheaply at the back? At then end of the day a defenders duty is to defend Lescott gives us that Demichelis on the other hand is just too unreliable

Fuck me he's gone from "Disastrous" to only unreliable in one post.

-- Wed Feb 19, 2014 2:31 am --

"Disastrous" in defence oh ok then. He tried to tackle the worlds best player and caught him outside the area after trying to cover for his captain who'd played said attacker on side :-/

can you really criticise Kompany who was immense tonight? At the the end of the day that tackle was plain stupid it not only gave away a goal but killed the tie by sending us down to ten men. That sums up what a liability he is and if you're forgetting Joleon and Vinny were in the best defence
in the league in our title winning season so why is it not good enough now?

-- Wed Feb 19, 2014 2:30 am --

Fuck me he's gone from "Disastrous" to only unreliable in one post.

if you're unreliable against teams like Barcelona it ends in disaster like tonight

No wonder you don't post much because you talk some fucking shite pal.


Lescott is limited as a player, he can block shots and get his head on the ball well but is no good with it at his feet.
Something the boss needs all his players to be comfortable with
He is also a couple of years older and the wrong side of 30 now and never had much pace to begin with.
There are you reasons he is not suitable for us now in a pairing against the top teams.

MD did fine and we came unstuck just twice all match against Barcelona.
We know he has no pace but he just got landed with Messi that one time, yeah you know the worlds best player.
Give me a break you utter fool.

Tonight was no disaster, these are the sensationalist words of a troll.