Martin Demichelis

[Lavinda Past]

he plays it out well from the back

That's Pelly's grand-daughter.

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

he plays it out well from the back

That's Pelly's grand-daughter.

Yes we know that but who's the chick?

 

[BigOscar]

Demichelis makes more tackles, interceptions, clearances and passes than Lescott per league game, he also has a better pass completion.

The only one of those stats that Vinnie can better is tackles.

MDM has made some high profile mistakes but he actually does an awful lot of good work for the team.

If you lunge in constantly then you'll always end up with a lot of interceptions and tackles. What those stats don't say is how many failed tackles or interceptions he has, where he's sold himself completely and left us high and dry or given away fouls. No one is doubting his willingness to try and tackle, quite the opposite, he's far too keen and doesn't seem to consider whether it's wise or not.

 

[Lavinda Past]

he plays it out well from the back

That's Pelly's grand-daughter.

Yes we know that but who's the chick?

 

[dom]

MDM is an accident waiting to happen just about all the bloody time... he makes the Dunny Monster look like an agile Shaolin monk
That said it didn't help the pony-tailed donkey that , as per fookin usual, Mica was out of position during Wigan attacks

Sorry Micah, just forget footy and try rugby league: your body and brains are both built for it

 

[Mr Ed (The Stables)]

MDM is an accident waiting to happen just about all the bloody time... he makes the Dunny Monster look like an agile Shaolin monk
That said it didn't help the pony-tailed donkey that , as per fookin usual, Mica was out of position during Wigan attacks

Sorry Micah, just forget footy and try rugby league: your body and brains are both built for it

Grasshopper when you can walk on the rice paper without breaking it you can leave this place!!!

Grasshopper when you snatch the pebble out of my hand you can leave this place!!

 

[ChicagoBlue]

MDM is not the problem, it is the WAY we defend and WHO gets back to assist when we are defending. It OVERexposes our back four. Look at the teams we play and see how many players they have defending when there is a break on. They have AT LEAST a few midfielders who bust their hump to get back.....we have Fernandinho!!

The other problem is that we play VERY NARROW when defending, so when our full backs do have to go out to meet any wide threats, if the midfielders are not filling in, we are left with decent sized holes between our defenders. That is where we are most often attacked. The number of goals scored BETWEEN our two central defenders is a nightmare.

 

[skybluepete]

MDM is an accident waiting to happen just about all the bloody time... he makes the Dunny Monster look like an agile Shaolin monk
That said it didn't help the pony-tailed donkey that , as per fookin usual, Mica was out of position during Wigan attacks

Sorry Micah, just forget footy and try rugby league: your body and brains are both built for it

Talking shite bringing Micah into the affray, what the fuck his excuse normally, because Micah doesn't usually get a game and he still makes mistakes that can potentially lose us games .

 

[Mr. Aguia]

Demichelis makes more tackles, interceptions, clearances and passes than Lescott per league game, he also has a better pass completion.

The only one of those stats that Vinnie can better is tackles.

MDM has made some high profile mistakes but he actually does an awful lot of good work for the team.

That's all fine and dandy but those high profile mistakes lead directly to goals and loses. It's irrelevant if he completes 100% of his passes if he gives up penalty shots and gets tossed.

 

[Neville Kneville]

MDM is not the problem, it is the WAY we defend and WHO gets back to assist when we are defending. It OVERexposes our back four. Look at the teams we play and see how many players they have defending when there is a break on. They have AT LEAST a few midfielders who bust their hump to get back.....we have Fernandinho!!

The other problem is that we play VERY NARROW when defending, so when our full backs do have to go out to meet any wide threats, if the midfielders are not filling in, we are left with decent sized holes between our defenders. That is where we are most often attacked. The number of goals scored BETWEEN our two central defenders is a nightmare.

We are an attacking team, which means the defenders need to do a good job defending, rather than just hope someone else stops the attack before it reaches them.

Many of the goals we have conceded were not that difficult to stop, just needed a little bit more concentration & decisiveness. That's including the fuck ups involving Nastasic, Joe Hart etc. There have been an awful lot of bad mistakes which have led to goals, & Demichelis has been involved in a large percentage of them.

Inbetween fuckups, he actually does pretty well, but what use is that if he costs us 20 goals per season ?

 

[BigOscar]

Hard to blame a defensive system for the goal the other day. It was a throw in down the line to the only player in our bloody half, it was pretty impressive to even give them a chance from there, yet alone a penalty. Other than having a player stand 2 yards behind DM to cover for his fuck ups, it's hard to see what system could have helped him out tbh

 

[Blue Beard]

controversial view, I thought Richards was at fault for both goals.

And I have never seen a defender go down so easily as he does. When I see him collapse and hurt in a heep when he could so easily get back on his feet and make an effort it tells me something about his character

I remember his early promise, and we all know he has ability. If he applied himself to learn and be more dedicated he would be first choice every week in my opinion

 

[Bill]

controversial view, I thought Richards was at fault for both goals.

And I have never seen a defender go down so easily as he does. When I see him collapse and hurt in a heep when he could so easily get back on his feet and make an effort it tells me something about his character

I remember his early promise, and we all know he has ability. If he applied himself to learn and be more dedicated he would be first choice every week in my opinion

Something odd about Richards, a blue through and through but seems to have lost it completely. The lad needs a fresh start, somewhere where he'll play every week.

 

[AshtonBlueMooner]

I find it hard how anyone can say that MDM isn't a liability. His speed is woeful, Lescott out sprinted him 3 times on Sunday so don't use this, it's a myth slant. He dives in consistently leaving the rest of the defence to chase back and make up for his errors. MP May want ball playing defenders but MDM slows the play down. He is a liability.

 

[bellsouth]

Adjusting to English football for foreign players can take time and especially for defenders. Vidic and Evra had mediocre starts to their time over here but became arguably the two most consistent defenders in the Prem League and they had youth on their side whereas MDM does not. He's a good footballer and a decent defender but the adjustment and his age leave him prone to the odd mistake and as a CB his mistakes are more noticeable and more costly. But honestly what more could you expect from him this season? He himself is not te problem, playing him too much, in key games and not having faith in the other CBs is the real issue and for that I'm afraid you have to blame Pellegrini.

 

[bluethrunthru]

Its pretty straightforward - look at his season - look at the mistakes he has made - look at the goals / points / games he has cost us and there is only one conclusion MDM - JUST NOT GOOD ENOUGH

 

[Lancet Fluke]

Its pretty straightforward - look at his season - look at the mistakes he has made - look at the goals / points / games he has cost us and there is only one conclusion MDM - JUST NOT GOOD ENOUGH

Before the Demichelis fan club come on with their stats that supposedly show he is the best defender at the club who makes the least mistakes, it is worth pointing out that he has made absolutely loads of terrible school boy errors that have put us in terrible situations but luckily for him, not many of them have actually cost us goals. But it is just luck, he could have cost us about 20 goals through mistakes, the way he dives in.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

controversial view, I thought Richards was at fault for both goals.

And I have never seen a defender go down so easily as he does. When I see him collapse and hurt in a heep when he could so easily get back on his feet and make an effort it tells me something about his character

I remember his early promise, and we all know he has ability. If he applied himself to learn and be more dedicated he would be first choice every week in my opinion

Not controversial, he was badly at fault for both goals.

He's missing in the right-back slot for the first which results in the penalty.

For the second, laughable in the extreme. He's a by-stander until he can't hide anymore. At that point, he stands side on with both of his arms behind his back and makes himself as small a target as possible for the cross.

Thinking more about about handball than stopping the actual centre.<br /><br />-- Tue Mar 11, 2014 9:00 am --<br /><br />

Its pretty straightforward - look at his season - look at the mistakes he has made - look at the goals / points / games he has cost us and there is only one conclusion MDM - JUST NOT GOOD ENOUGH

Before the Demichelis fan club come on with their stats that supposedly show he is the best defender at the club who makes the least mistakes, it is worth pointing out that he has made absolutely loads of terrible school boy errors that have put us in terrible situations but luckily for him, not many of them have actually cost us goals. But it is just luck, he could have cost us about 20 goals through mistakes, the way he dives in.

You could just as easily be describing Kompany, and we all know it.

 

[2bluejacko]

controversial view, I thought Richards was at fault for both goals.

And I have never seen a defender go down so easily as he does. When I see him collapse and hurt in a heep when he could so easily get back on his feet and make an effort it tells me something about his character

I remember his early promise, and we all know he has ability. If he applied himself to learn and be more dedicated he would be first choice every week in my opinion

Not controversial, he was badly at fault for both goals.

He's missing in the right-back slot for the first which results in the penalty.

For the second, laughable in the extreme. He's a by-stander until he can't hide anymore. At that point, he stands side on with both of his arms behind his back and makes himself as small a target as possible for the cross.

Thinking more about about handball than stopping the actual centre.

-- Tue Mar 11, 2014 9:00 am --

Its pretty straightforward - look at his season - look at the mistakes he has made - look at the goals / points / games he has cost us and there is only one conclusion MDM - JUST NOT GOOD ENOUGH

Before the Demichelis fan club come on with their stats that supposedly show he is the best defender at the club who makes the least mistakes, it is worth pointing out that he has made absolutely loads of terrible school boy errors that have put us in terrible situations but luckily for him, not many of them have actually cost us goals. But it is just luck, he could have cost us about 20 goals through mistakes, the way he dives in.

You could just as easily be describing Kompany, and we all know it.

you are right about VK... nobody says anything because he is captain but if demi or lescott do anything, god forbid...

 

[MC ID]

What pisses me off more than his constant fuck ups is that I know he'll keep starting games. As much as pellegrini has got things right and got playing some amazing football this constant choice to pick demichellis is mind boggling.