Martin Demichelis

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It's a big risk trying the kompany and lescott partnership, it's not like we've ever won anything with those to at the back is it?
 
After him getting his chance with a run in the team its now evident that he's not up to it and he's just a stop gap but because Lescott isn't fancied by MP and Nastasic is injured it looks like we're going to have to show some patience with him. Hope he stops the errors, he's been a great defender in the past for other teams but this level of football is now exposing his deteriorating qualities. We all know where the money needs to be spent in the summer<br /><br />-- Wed Mar 12, 2014 9:26 am --<br /><br />After him getting his chance with a run in the team its now evident that he's not up to it and he's just a stop gap but because Lescott isn't fancied by MP and Nastasic is injured it looks like we're going to have to show some patience with him. Hope he stops the errors, he's been a great defender in the past for other teams but this level of football is now exposing his deteriorating qualities. We all know where the money needs to be spent in the summer
 
FromPollockToSilva said:
jaigurugoat said:
It's a big risk trying the kompany and lescott partnership, it's not like we've ever won anything with those to at the back is it?

Not in Europe, no.


out of interest how many of our CL games over the last 3 years has Joleon played in? I honestly don't know and would be interested to
 
BringBackSwales said:
FromPollockToSilva said:
jaigurugoat said:
It's a big risk trying the kompany and lescott partnership, it's not like we've ever won anything with those to at the back is it?

Not in Europe, no.


out of interest how many of our CL games over the last 3 years has Joleon played in? I honestly don't know and would be interested to
10, not sure on starts or sub appearences though. 6 of those were the first season we were in, 2011/12
 
Lancet Fluke said:
FromPollockToSilva said:
jaigurugoat said:
It's a big risk trying the kompany and lescott partnership, it's not like we've ever won anything with those to at the back is it?

Not in Europe, no.

Well he can't pick Heslop and Booth.


I don't know whether I should be chuckling at that or not... Pulled a good pint did our George. RIP.
 
Demichelis seems to be Pellegrini's blind spot - he seems to play him even when he has other options despite the fact that everyone can see that he's a liabilty. Problem is that the opposition target weak spots and this is starting to happen - now he's made a big contribution to our exit from 2 competitions (barring a miracle tonight) . Reminds me of the Mancini/Balottelli situation
 
jknight said:
Demichelis seems to be Pellegrini's blind spot - he seems to play him even when he has other options despite the fact that everyone can see that he's a liabilty. Problem is that the opposition target weak spots and this is starting to happen - now he's made a big contribution to our exit from 2 competitions (barring a miracle tonight) . Reminds me of the Mancini/Balottelli situation

Except balo was at the other end of the pitch where a mistake doesn't lead directly to a goal or goal scoring opportunity

He did score the odd goal aswell - for us !!
 
skybluepete said:
jknight said:
Demichelis seems to be Pellegrini's blind spot - he seems to play him even when he has other options despite the fact that everyone can see that he's a liabilty. Problem is that the opposition target weak spots and this is starting to happen - now he's made a big contribution to our exit from 2 competitions (barring a miracle tonight) . Reminds me of the Mancini/Balottelli situation

Except balo was at the other end of the pitch where a mistake doesn't lead directly to a goal or goal scoring opportunity

He did score the odd goal aswell - for us !!

He did needlessly get himself sent off on occasion, though.

Demichelis has really disappointed me. I was in a pub with mates during the Barça match (we all despise them) and we all, I am not exaggerating, responding to his sending off simultaneously with "Well, at least he can't play in the return leg." That's how tired we were of seeing him make those simple mistakes. And I wasn't surprised he gave away the penalty over the weekend—I actually prophesied it would occur in the prematch thread, unfortunately (and was shouted down by a fair few posters at that time).
 
skybluepete said:
jknight said:
Demichelis seems to be Pellegrini's blind spot - he seems to play him even when he has other options despite the fact that everyone can see that he's a liabilty. Problem is that the opposition target weak spots and this is starting to happen - now he's made a big contribution to our exit from 2 competitions (barring a miracle tonight) . Reminds me of the Mancini/Balottelli situation

Except balo was at the other end of the pitch where a mistake doesn't lead directly to a goal or goal scoring opportunity

He did score the odd goal aswell - for us !!

True - a defender's mistake is always more critical. But in the same way that Mancini wasn't prepared to admit when it wasn't working I think Pellegrini is guilty of the same thing here. We all knew Balotelli had the youth and talent so Mancini's perseverance was a bit more understandable - it's clear that MDM is past it and he is costing us in key games.
 
jknight said:
skybluepete said:
jknight said:
Demichelis seems to be Pellegrini's blind spot - he seems to play him even when he has other options despite the fact that everyone can see that he's a liabilty. Problem is that the opposition target weak spots and this is starting to happen - now he's made a big contribution to our exit from 2 competitions (barring a miracle tonight) . Reminds me of the Mancini/Balottelli situation

Except balo was at the other end of the pitch where a mistake doesn't lead directly to a goal or goal scoring opportunity

He did score the odd goal aswell - for us !!

True - a defender's mistake is always more critical. But in the same way that Mancini wasn't prepared to admit when it wasn't working I think Pellegrini is guilty of the same thing here. We all knew Balotelli had the youth and talent so Mancini's perseverance was a bit more understandable - it's clear that MDM is past it and he is costing us in key games.

I don't think MP is blind to MDM's faults. I just think he fancies the alternatives (Lescott and Nastasic) even less. Now there's a healthy debate around those three, but his view is not so far out - let's face it, none of those three has looked exactly convincing this year.
 
lasereyes said:
jknight said:
skybluepete said:
Except balo was at the other end of the pitch where a mistake doesn't lead directly to a goal or goal scoring opportunity

He did score the odd goal aswell - for us !!

True - a defender's mistake is always more critical. But in the same way that Mancini wasn't prepared to admit when it wasn't working I think Pellegrini is guilty of the same thing here. We all knew Balotelli had the youth and talent so Mancini's perseverance was a bit more understandable - it's clear that MDM is past it and he is costing us in key games.

I don't think MP is blind to MDM's faults. I just think he fancies the alternatives (Lescott and Nastasic) even less. Now there's a healthy debate around those three, but his view is not so far out - let's face it, none of those three has looked exactly convincing this year.
Neither Joleon or Nasty are world beaters, but to suggest they're down on the same level as DeMichelis is naive. I'd have either of them before MdM.
 
jimharri said:
lasereyes said:
jknight said:
True - a defender's mistake is always more critical. But in the same way that Mancini wasn't prepared to admit when it wasn't working I think Pellegrini is guilty of the same thing here. We all knew Balotelli had the youth and talent so Mancini's perseverance was a bit more understandable - it's clear that MDM is past it and he is costing us in key games.

I don't think MP is blind to MDM's faults. I just think he fancies the alternatives (Lescott and Nastasic) even less. Now there's a healthy debate around those three, but his view is not so far out - let's face it, none of those three has looked exactly convincing this year.
Neither Joleon or Nasty are world beaters, but to suggest they're down on the same level as DeMichelis is naive. I'd have either of them before MdM.

I actually would pick Lescott over MDM. But I have grave doubts about Lescott - looks slow and lumbering and nowhere near the player he was 2 years ago. So to me it's a close thing, and I don't think MP's choice was that far out. As for Nastasic, it's kinda a moot point as he has been injured, but he has looked very shaky this year and in my view was almost as culpable as Hart for the Chelsea fuck-up that may yet cost us the title.
 
lasereyes said:
I actually would pick Lescott over MDM. But I have grave doubts about Lescott - looks slow and lumbering and nowhere near the player he was 2 years ago.
Exactly. So what does that tell you about MdM?


lasereyes said:
As for Nastasic, it's kinda a moot point as he has been injured, but he has looked very shaky this year and in my view was almost as culpable as Hart for the Chelsea fuck-up that may yet cost us the title.
Even before Nasty got injured, he was (at best) iffy. He seemed very prone to giving away free kicks on the edge of the area. He seems to have stagnated this season compared to last, which is disappointing (again, taking into account his injury). No way was he at fault for the farce at Chelsea though; what Hart was doing racing out that far, fuck knows. Stay on his line and a simple header back to him from Nasty; job sorted.
 
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