Matthijs de Ligt

Parisian said:
You have not been disrespectful.
I'm just asking where are the evidence you are claiming about that particular topic.

And those evidences seem to be the opinion of Sport about his declaration. Well, that seem rather far fetched to call that "evidence".
As you can see with a quick research, they are quite imaginative when PSG is the object of their articles :https://www.sport-english.com/en/ne...test-strategy-to-try-and-damage-barca-7366239
Other journalists in France, closer to the case, have said that he wants the number 9 spot (he talked about the fact he discovered a new role), more responsabilities meaning more money, wanting to take second position in penalty taking, and wanting a more competitive team while respecting Neymar importance for the club.

No one can conclude anything about Mbappé declaration, except for the player himself, but i think he wants to put pressure on PSG like Cristiano Ronaldo used to do. He wants more money, more attention, a competitive team and wouldn't say no to Real Madrid if PSG was opening the door.

But, if there are two players that like to play together and have an understanding on the field, it is clearly Mbappé and Neymar. Cavani is the one being boycotted by the two others because he is technically limited.
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It may be true, or it may be not, but if your last sentence is true, it shows that they are two large egos. You cannot have players boycotting team mates, especially ones as historically important as Cavani.
 
BosnianBlue said:
If someone throw stupid money at you, you'd play for Anzhi, let alone United.

Stop thinking that Barca could pay half of some other offer and still be the romantic option for player.

Rags are big club, despite the current shit they fund themselves in, and when they pay 100k or more per week more than next biggest offer, they will still be pretty attractive option. Players will take a pinch for some small amount to chose the club they'd eventually like more to play at, but when money is much bigger, you can kiss love goodbye.

You'll either match or come closer to what United are offering or you're out. It's simple as that. And always will be.

Citywise, as long as the wages are what is quoted that United are willing to pay, I don't want him as much as good as he is. He didn't do anything in his football career to be paid as much as De Bruyne and 3 times more than half of our top player.
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Perhaps one day City will evoke that sort of passion to play for the club, even foregoing more wages elsewhere to do so - not many clubs can say that but Barca certainly is and has been

It's as simple as I have already mentioned, either the player accepts less to play at Barcelona or he will play at United - Barcelona won't enter into that sort of game
 
FCBarca said:
Perhaps one day City will evoke that sort of passion to play for the club, even foregoing more wages elsewhere to do so - not many clubs can say that but Barca certainly is and has been

It's as simple as I have already mentioned, either the player accepts less to play at Barcelona or he will play at United - Barcelona won't enter into that sort of game
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Some of this is absolutely true but some a mythology around the club. Barcelona is also consistently near the top of the tree when it comes to wages and transfer fees paid and they have also been convicted of receiving state support.

I speak as someone who has admiration for the club but they are not whiter than white.

https://www.transfermarkt.com/statistik/transferrekorde

https://www.90min.com/posts/6222573-15-european-clubs-with-the-highest-wages-in-football
 
FCBarca said:
Perhaps one day City will evoke that sort of passion to play for the club, even foregoing more wages elsewhere to do so - not many clubs can say that but Barca certainly is and has been

It's as simple as I have already mentioned, either the player accepts less to play at Barcelona or he will play at United - Barcelona won't enter into that sort of game
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I must have dreamt all those huge transfer fees over the years.
 
I think there's a few people in denial and trying to convince themselves that he's not anything special because we won't be signing him.

Whatever the reason, it's a shame because he's better than what we've got and can bring qualities we don't currently have. Once settled at his new club, he will be an absolute superstar with another 15 years ahead of him.
 
FCBarca said:
Perhaps one day City will evoke that sort of passion to play for the club, even foregoing more wages elsewhere to do so - not many clubs can say that but Barca certainly is and has been

It's as simple as I have already mentioned, either the player accepts less to play at Barcelona or he will play at United - Barcelona won't enter into that sort of game
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Utter bollocks. All this shite about players wanting to play for Barcelona Real Madrid united and liverpool because of your history; all fucking 4 of you have 3 things in common - you are despicable clubs, you have worse squads than City, and YOUR WAGE BILLS ARE ALL FUCKING HIGHER THAN CITY’S
 
Footballer chooses to play for the team that offers the most, shocking. De Ligt is a massive talent but personally I would only splash the cash for generational attacking talents like Mbappe.
 
Plain Speaking said:
I don't know what wages the players are on, I would hope it should be strictly confidential.

I understand we have a wage structure but exceptional talent should be rewarded. I would imagine we will be saving a high wage bill with Kompany leaving, and maybe Ota?
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He (as others) will sign with what we consider a fair remuneration and If he has true belief in his ability, that wont be a problem will it as, if he proves "exceptional talent" for us, he will be further rewarded.

Not sure how you are struggling with the way we operate
 
karen7 said:
Haha,have you seen our squad
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Our squad is good but no doubt could get better. Sitting there and saying it's great and we don't need to sign top players is exactly what will stop us from progressing further. Had we payed the fee van dijk would have been ours and the title race this season would be non existent. Had we payed up for mbappe we would have aguero replacement set for the next 10 years. Had we payed up for de Jong our midfield would have been taken to the next level. if we payed up for de ligt again our defense would be set for years to come.

Just because Sanchez and Fred worked out doesn't mean it's a viable long term policy and that every player we won't pay up for wouldn't have improved us. Wether we like it or not our perception as a club will always be that of a money club and players know we can afford it. We aren't the only top team in the world and we can't say that their shit or have a weak mentality if they join another team.
 
So £300k a week on top of the £400k a week for Sanchez, but it's us that are inflating the transfer market.
 
Can’t understand why he’d go to Utd. The club is an embarrassment and everyone knows it. If I had my pick of elite clubs they wouldn’t even be on my list of possibles.
 
cityzennn93:20 said:
Our squad is good but no doubt could get better. Sitting there and saying it's great and we don't need to sign top players is exactly what will stop us from progressing further. Had we payed the fee van dijk would have been ours and the title race this season would be non existent. Had we payed up for mbappe we would have aguero replacement set for the next 10 years. Had we payed up for de Jong our midfield would have been taken to the next level. if we payed up for de ligt again our defense would be set for years to come.

Just because Sanchez and Fred worked out doesn't mean it's a viable long term policy and that every player we won't pay up for wouldn't have improved us. Wether we like it or not our perception as a club will always be that of a money club and players know we can afford it. We aren't the only top team in the world and we can't say that their shit or have a weak mentality if they join another team.
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He wanted to play for the scousers
Pure speculation
I have just twigged, you are a Fifa 19 keyboard manager - good god mate get real ffs
 
Tugay One Cup said:
He went to Liverpool because we weren't willing to pay the fee to Southampton and, presumably, didn't fancy paying him what he felt he was worth.
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IIRC he was tapped up illegally by Liverpool and they were prevented from buying him at that window, but he held out so that he could join them at a later date
 
Kinkladze 1 said:
Can’t understand why he’d go to Utd. The club is an embarrassment and everyone knows it. If I had my pick of elite clubs they wouldn’t even be on my list of possibles.
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He won’t
He is just trying to get more money off Barca
Best mate just signed for them
They just won league
He was in champions league semis and won’t want Europa league
No chance of this deal

The fact city and PSG are not being used suggests it’s a done deal to Barca to me
 
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mosssideblue said:
He wanted to play for the scousers
Pure speculation
I have just twigged, you are a Fifa 19 keyboard manager - good god mate get real ffs
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He wanted to go there because they were literally the only top team that would pay him and Southampton what they want. And your calling me a FIFA manager but all those players were realistic at the time of us targeting them. Maguire would cost around the same as de ligt if not slightly less. De Jong cost Barca 65m if we valued him more we could have afforded mbappe.

These were all realistic targets I'm not saying we should sign Messi and Ronaldo in the same year. That would be FIFA managing.
 
Dax777 said:
I guess we'd have to agree to disagree.

Leading your own team to attempt to dethrone the Champions is a far greater accomplishment than joining the winners. That's easy.

See, we won without him. So clearly he isn't critical to our success. But if he ever wins the league ( and he very well might win the Champions League this year), it will be a more rewarding, and satisfying victory. And he'd have been critical to that victory.

I mean, anyone can see this
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You’re talking about VVD.
1. How are Liverpool his own team?
2. He finished 2nd, fantastic accomplishment if you read the Daily Mail, I suppose it’s as good as winning.
3. I’m sure if you gave him the opportunity of playing in a Champions League final or 5 medals he would take the 5 medals, Raheem Sterling agrees too.

I mean, anyone can see this.
 
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