Fulham and Southampton are definitely the model to follow if you're a smaller club - amazing what both accomplish.
Can't wait for the next generation of English talent to all hail from our academy and playstyle
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Fulham and Southampton are definitely the model to follow if you're a smaller club - amazing what both accomplish.
Can't wait for the next generation of English talent to all hail from our academy and playstyle
Fulham and Southampton are definitely the model to follow if you're a smaller club - amazing what both accomplish.
Can't wait for the next generation of English talent to all hail from our academy and playstyle
It's certainly a model, but I think Southampton are quite lucky in that they don't have a lot of competition geographically for kids.
Brentford scrapped their academy and instead pick up those who have been let go from bigger clubs. They've had a fair few of these players contributing to their first team, so fair play.
It'd be very hard for a Bury or Rochdale to compete with what City (or United) can offer the best local talent, do they might as well benefit from what we teach the ones who don't quite make the grade.
r.soleofsalford
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Have they started skipping the teams on a year yet like they said they were planning to?
Not seen anything of him but the telegraph reckon City have been after a number 10 English wonderkid: Ben Knight from Ipswich for a while:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/11/29/manchester-city-hoping-sign-ipswich-town-wonderkid/
thats a great find and good to read.
'England Under 16's team in the Montaigu tournament, Vendee, France'
5 out of 20 players...
MCFC, ruining youth football since 2008.
Doyle, Ogbeta, Wright Philips, Duncan & Pascal.
5 lads joining the U15(2002) England Squad this week. (4 from u15s & 1 from the U14s) plus 1 on stand by, 1 probable out with long term injury and 2 v close
Bad Santa
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2 starter v Slovenia. Won 5-1
1 came on at ht - followed by the other 2.
Another goal and assists for blues
Was 1-0 ht.
All did great again
USA tomorrow
Yeah I watched this game, some talent in this age group it seems but was hard to make out who was who. Do you know if the little number 10 was Cole Palmer? If so, he looked a really good little player with silky skills and the vision of a proper number 10.
I think the others involved are
Louie Moulden
Taylor Harwood-Bellis
Samson Robinson
Joe Hodge
Yeah I watched this game, some talent in this age group it seems but was hard to make out who was who. Do you know if the little number 10 was Cole Palmer? If so, he looked a really good little player with silky skills and the vision of a proper number 10.
I think the others involved are
Cole is No10 - came on half way through second half
Louie Moulden - No,1 keeper
Taylor Harwood-Bellis - No.6 Centre back
Samson Robinson - No.2 right back
Joe Hodge - No.4 pivot - centre mid
Bad Santa
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Cole is No10 - came on half way through second half
Louie Moulden - No,1 keeper
Taylor Harwood-Bellis - No.6 Centre back
Samson Robinson - No.2 right back
Joe Hodge - No.4 pivot - centre mid
Ok cheers for that, so Samson Robinson was the right back, was impressed from what I saw from him also
Got the highlights from the Russia game just incase you haven't seen it
Cheers - am out here watching
Joe hodge got MOTM v Russia
City lads controlled game when they came in v Slovenia - add a level of calmness
They were rested in the main v USA in a bit of a dead rubber - ( in hurricane conditions. )
Won 3-2 . Topped group so in semi
Joe hodge got MOTM v Russia
City lads controlled game when they came in v Slovenia - add a level of calmness
They were rested in the main v USA in a bit of a dead rubber - ( in hurricane conditions. )
Won 3-2 . Topped group so in semi
Bad Santa
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Cheers - am out here watching
Joe hodge got MOTM v Russia
City lads controlled game when they came in v Slovenia - add a level of calmness
They were rested in the main v USA in a bit of a dead rubber - ( in hurricane conditions. )
Won 3-2 . Topped group so in semi
Sorry it's a bit late but for those that might be interested, here is the full game versus Russia:
stonie
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Lewis fiorini called up to Scotland's U17 squad, great news and seems a while back since watching him kicking a ball about in the green man car park after the chelsea semi win....
Lewis fiorini called up to Scotland's U17 squad, great news and seems a while back since watching him kicking a ball about in the green man car park after the chelsea semi win....
I swear he's already played for England too?
Bad Santa
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I swear he's already played for England too?
Yeah, he has several times, think he's been involved since U15's. He can keep play for either until U17 qualifying starts for the Euro's (which ties you down), which I think is next month but this Scotland Squad isn't for the Qualifiers I don't think, pretty sure it's a friendly tournament, so will be interesting to see who he goes with when the Euro Qualifiers start, I'm hoping England.
stonie
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You can play for any nation you qualify for up to U21 level, once you have played for a full national side thats it...
It's a bit more complicated than that; sometimes you can play for multiple national teams, sometimes you can't change if you played once competitively for the u17. It's generally a case by case thing.You can play for any nation you qualify for up to U21 level, once you have played for a full national side thats it...
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It's a bit more complicated than that; sometimes you can play for multiple national teams, sometimes you can't change if you played once competitively for the u17. It's generally a case by case thing.
I thought it depended on whether you were eligible for more than team when you up to u21. Fiorini is obviously eligible for England and Scotland so he can move but if he was only eligible for Scotland now but became eligible for England through residency in a couple of years then any appearance for Scotland (before he was eligible for England) ties him for life. I think it's designed to stop rich countries buying up talent. Fernando fell foul of it a few years ago as he thought he could switch to Portugal despite playing for Brazilian U20s but as he wasn't eligible for Portugal when he played for the Brazilian u20s he couldn't switch.
That makes sense, but the Diego Costa switch from Brazil to Spain would be an immediate counter example. He wasn't eligible for Spain when he made his Brazil debut. It was an extreme case at the time, but it does suggest the rules are somewhat less than concrete.I thought it depended on whether you were eligible for more than team when you up to u21. Fiorini is obviously eligible for England and Scotland so he can move but if he was only eligible for Scotland now but became eligible for England through residency in a couple of years then any appearance for Scotland (before he was eligible for England) ties him for life. I think it's designed to stop rich countries buying up talent. Fernando fell foul of it a few years ago as he thought he could switch to Portugal despite playing for Brazilian U20s but as he wasn't eligible for Portugal when he played for the Brazilian u20s he couldn't switch.
I think you're right in general about the idea that the rules are there to stop rich clubs vacuuming up talent.
There's a FIFA Player's Status Committee who make these decisions, but a big problem is with how inconsistent they are.
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That makes sense, but the Diego Costa switch from Brazil to Spain would be an immediate counter example. He wasn't eligible for Spain when he made his Brazil debut. It was an extreme case at the time, but it does suggest the rules are somewhat less than concrete.
I think you're right in general about the idea that the rules are there to stop rich clubs vacuuming up talent.
There's a FIFA Player's Status Committee who make these decisions, but a big problem is with how inconsistent they are.
Costa never played a competitive match for Brazil hence he could switch.
But Kevin Prince Boateng played competitively at youth level before switching to Ghana.Costa never played a competitive match for Brazil hence he could switch.
It's very inconsistent is all I'm saying.