Media Thread 2017/18

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franksinatra said:
That is all fair enough bluemoonmatt and I have absolutely no issue with you saying I defend the indefensible.

The forum is all about opinions and although naturally I think I am correct (or I would not argue the point) I do see things like circling red seats, the BBC calling Pete the badge a Bertie etc which Infuriates me as much as anybody and understandably lends weight to peoples argument about the media being against us.

You say your somewhere inbetween and there is a good chance that is probably where the truth lies.

To mcfc1632 keep posting on the forum if you believe there is bias, as that is your right. However it is a forum so do not be offended if you get challenged on your view as I have tonight on mine. Were all blues just and with so many posters there will always be people who view things differently.
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If you chuck in the disparity of the mirrors reports on the lukaku and Walker deals I think we're getting towards a full set. In my mind it really isn't media bias, at least not against us, if online newspapers (for example) lead with pogshit tapping up neymar on the same day we hammer real, with a (in fairness even handed) report tucked somewhere down the page. The trouble is when we get upset about literally everything, as ric said, our arguments or complaints are somewhat cheapened when it comes to serious stuff (Pete the badge being the best example). It's risible to think we benefit from the same generous press that our rivals do certainly the rags. However I came on here yesterday to argue the point that we really need not foam at the mouth cos talk sport or Ssn haven't mentioned our friendly win, or someone's drawn a (fairly funny tbf) cartoon, cos when the mirror or the Beeb or whoever take a totally unreasonable swipe at us probably a few days before the derby, and we're rightfully incensed all we will be seen as is moaning City fans whinging again.
 
asahartford1 said:
The casual football fan is influenced by the media. They have impressions created by motd , sky and the the gutter.
So it is no surprise that they see us as , Johnny come lateley's , empty seat, oil rich, sugar daddy lottery winners.

Most serious intelligent people see through it.
There are agendas and bias throughout the media, why would we be exempt
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This man gets it, brainwash the masses, to keep our fanbase from rising too much....Non-footballing family, young lad asks dad to take him to a game, dad looks at media, sees the raggy wankathon and how nasty City are..... where's he going to take his kid? Not to us ....media job done.
 
blue b4 the moon said:
This man gets it, brainwash the masses, to keep our fanbase from rising too much....Non-footballing family, young lad asks dad to take him to a game, dad looks at media, sees the raggy wankathon and how nasty City are..... where's he going to take his kid? Not to us ....media job done.
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Sterling's a "twat", Stones a "liability",not interested in "kids", Aguero "off to Chelsea", "offshore payments".

All these I have had quoted to me by people when I tell them I am a city fan. They are all biased gutter press and Sky announcements.
And then the Monaco "complaint to Fifa".
Garbage.

If anyone knows anything about agenda setting and the media, they would soon realise what is happening here.

For instance, count how many times the total spending this Summer for City is shared on Sky Talkshite etc. 100 times a day. This is an example of agenda setting. This in turn constructs the reality for people...
 
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Sort of City related in view of the slagging off we get about empty seats. Last night Talkshite had a reporter at the Everton Eurovision Song Contest match and in waiting for the teams to come out he described the scene of a packed sell out crowd, bar empty seats in the away section that housed '60 fans'. They were waiting to hear the crowd reaction to the teams arrival on the pitch and the 'Rooney' chants, which he said were loud. Firstly, I couldn't hear any 'Rooney' chants and when I saw the news this morning, the whole lower tier of the main stand was empty. Donald Trump is a twat, but I have to agree with him about fake news at times!
 
I think its funny how every summer there is always one player transfer that gets dragged theought thw summer, 2014 sterling 2015 KdB 2016 Stone. this year Sanchez.
last summer, it was more about what to expect from Pep,
At the end they end up signing with us. And I think Sanchez willl end up signing with us, right before the first game.
 
Sheikh Rattle n Roll said:
Sort of City related in view of the slagging off we get about empty seats. Last night Talkshite had a reporter at the Everton Eurovision Song Contest match and in waiting for the teams to come out he described the scene of a packed sell out crowd, bar empty seats in the away section that housed '60 fans'. They were waiting to hear the crowd reaction to the teams arrival on the pitch and the 'Rooney' chants, which he said were loud. Firstly, I couldn't hear any 'Rooney' chants and when I saw the news this morning, the whole lower tier of the main stand was empty. Donald Trump is a twat, but I have to agree with him about fake news at times!
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I watched a bit of that game, the only areas which was pretty full was the ends, I bet there was less then 30k
 
asahartford1 said:
Sterling's a "twat", Stones a "liability",not interested in "kids", Aguero "off to Chelsea", "offshore payments".

All these I have had quoted to me by people when I tell them I am a city fan. They are all biased gutter press and Sky announcements.
And then the Monaco "complaint to Fifa".
Garbage.

If anyone knows anything about agenda setting and the media, they would soon realise what is happening here.

For instance, count how many times the total spending this Summer for City is shared on Sky Talkshite etc. 100 times a day. This is an example of agenda setting. This in turn constructs the reality for people...
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Football is no different to any other walk of society. There are people who are proper fans and understand what they are talking about, and then there are sheep who just join the crowd and listen to the easiest source of information to make out that they have a clue about the subject.

You could replace football with politics and you would have exactly the same outcome. People following the headline and ignoring the facts. Brexit and the recent elections proved that!

Personally, if I was having a conversation with someone about football and they just kept repeating the media bullshit then I'd soon realise they are not worth talking to about football and change the subject.

Also, any Blue who actually gives a shit about what some armchair, Irish, Rag-supporter called Seamus thinks about City needs to give their head a wobble.
 
daztrueblue91 said:
Football is no different to any other walk of society. There are people who are proper fans and understand what they are talking about, and then there are sheep who just join the crowd and listen to the easiest source of information to make out that they have a clue about the subject.

You could replace football with politics and you would have exactly the same outcome. People following the headline and ignoring the facts. Brexit and the recent elections proved that!

Personally, if I was having a conversation with someone about football and they just kept repeating the media bullshit then I'd soon realise they are not worth talking to about football and change the subject.

Also, any Blue who actually gives a shit about what some armchair, Irish, Rag-supporter called Seamus thinks about City needs to give their head a wobble.
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We are in agreement. There are the people who believe the reality that is constructed for them, but more dangerous are those that construct the reality.
 
asahartford1 said:
Sterling's a "twat", Stones a "liability",not interested in "kids", Aguero "off to Chelsea", "offshore payments".

All these I have had quoted to me by people when I tell them I am a city fan. They are all biased gutter press and Sky announcements.
And then the Monaco "complaint to Fifa".
Garbage.

If anyone knows anything about agenda setting and the media, they would soon realise what is happening here.

For instance, count how many times the total spending this Summer for City is shared on Sky Talkshite etc. 100 times a day. This is an example of agenda setting. This in turn constructs the reality for people...
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I think we got the same hymn book.
 
Now just imagine for one minute that we refused to put the Manchester bee on our fan's shirts and we had to go to the united store where they kindly did it
Imagine that shit storm? Yet nothing at all in the press. Like there was barely any coverage the week of the attack when Lingard posted a video of them singing "why don't City fuck off home". Imagine if that was Sterling?
It's bollocks.
 
40 years ago utd were arguing with celtic about who was the biggest club in the world, now they have 696 million fans? it dose not matter that it was a lie the sponsors and shirt sellers loved it. nearly 3/4 of utd money never makes it to trafford it is all in shares stocks and advertising. woodward claimed utd were the biggest club in the world because of clicks on social media,
So yes it does matter when the media cast city in a bad light, utd make money out of it, when on sky advertising Yaya misses his shot and martail scores his who makes the most money Nike or addidas? city fans should get on the media`s case at source, moaning on here does nothing just not on a utd page . And we should support other clubs when they need it Southampton in the final Mings ban how many of us came out in support of these two travesties, if we do not support others they will not support us
 
We're not really here said:
Now just imagine for one minute that we refused to put the Manchester bee on our fan's shirts and we had to go to the united store where they kindly did it
Imagine that shit storm? Yet nothing at all in the press. Like there was barely any coverage the week of the attack when Lingard posted a video of them singing "why don't City fuck off home". Imagine if that was Sterling?
It's bollocks.
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http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/manchester-united-players-take-shine-10495773

http://metro.co.uk/2017/05/25/manch...ressing-room-after-europa-league-win-6660564/

You're right. Passed unnoticed
 
chesterguy said:
I absolutely agree with this BUT I do feel that one or 2 posters come across as slightly smug when trying to negate the arguments that those of us who feel there is a bias. Now there have been so many comments made about media bias that surely those who say there isnt have got to think why do so many people feel that way are they all wrong?

As has been said so many times before whether it is bias for one team or bias against another I am sure we can all agree that there is an imbalance in how the media on different clubs. Now we can surely understand why a url with Ronaldo- United-Transfer will generate alot of clicks and basically that is what our media has got to.....clickbait

Is it annoying yes, do we feel it more bearing in mind that our noisy neighbours gain the biggest benefit from that imbalance probably but as Ric says we have to learn to pick our battles as whilst Sky and News Corporation do what they do us railing and ranting shouting "its not fair" over every perceived imbalance will just make us look slightly small time as they will not change as its the only thing they have got

The way to change the view and attitude of the media is with sustained success as then it will be in their interests to write positive articles
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perfectly articulated chesterguy, absolutely spot on , especially the last line
 
We're not really here said:
Now just imagine for one minute that we refused to put the Manchester bee on our fan's shirts and we had to go to the united store where they kindly did it
Imagine that shit storm? Yet nothing at all in the press. Like there was barely any coverage the week of the attack when Lingard posted a video of them singing "why don't City fuck off home". Imagine if that was Sterling?
It's bollocks.
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Spot on mate.

It doesn't reach the media as you write but local people realise what a shit Club the rags are hence their non-existent match going "support" in Stretford.
 
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