Media Thread - 2021/22

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SilvaisSkyBlue said:
Various media are reporting what are listed as real time salary figures for 21/22, from a site called Spotrac.

Do these look right @Prestwich_Blue?

https://www.spotrac.com/epl/payroll/


1Manchester United F.C.£227,686,200
2Chelsea F.C.£162,642,000
3Manchester City F.C.£143,156,000
4Liverpool F.C.£139,178,000
5Arsenal F.C.£99,765,273

The following are by annual salary for players at each club from the same site, these figures seem to be widely quoted across most media.

https://www.spotrac.com/epl/rankings/
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Not seen that before, but it has City keepers earning 2.4M. Is Ederson only on about 40k/week?

I guess It's all without bonuses.
 
Centurions said:
Didn't I see somewhere that the people who run the hotel are from Hong Kong? Presumably it would be them the deal is with.
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Interesting that any deal done by city with any entity in the middle East comes under scrutiny from the authorities and media alike as to whether they are linked to the club in any way, yet when other clubs e.g. rags/scousers set up with US companies there is no reaction (at least not publicly or by the media). Smacks of institutional prejudice/racism to me, far bigger than just football or city. Alan Davies' podcast probably sums up the views of many media outlets in this country.
 
Centurions said:
I honestly fail to understand why anyone but a Liverpool football club fan would read the Liverpool Echo, it's purely a mouthpiece for the club. Even Everton fans don't read it. You might as well read rawk or redcafe and take everything written there as gospel.
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Probably done what I did and looked on newsnow. I sometimes can't help but look when I see a ridiculous looking headline
 
Ric said:
Alan Davies here, the daft racist.
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At least they don’t have anything whatsoever to do with any of those horrible Middle Eastern countries. Not their shirts, not their stadium, not anything.
As moral guardians of football, I can’t imagine them signing a deal with the Rwandan government either!
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
Their total wage bill for the year to June 2021 was £322m, whereas ours was £351m. That was before they bought Ronaldo, Sancho & Varane.

In the first quarter of the new financial year, to Sept 2021, which did include 3 months of their wages, the wage bill had gone up 25% compared to the previous year, to £88.5m. That extrapolates to a full year wage bill of over £350m.

Edit: However, if the overall wage bill in 2021 goes up the same percentage (although I don't think it will) then it could be a whopping £400m
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However you look at it, and whoever is paying the most, is largely irrelevant. It’s a scandalous amount of money to be paying people to kick a ball about whilst charging working class people over £50 to go and watch it. It’s no wonder the next generation aren’t turning up!
The authorities need to bring in some sort of cap on this and facilitate tickets at no more than £30. A ’wage cap’ now would not be like the one fought against by Jimmy Hill, which was £20 a week and would be about £400 today. It would also help to safeguard the smaller clubs who are forever chasing the PL dream by paying more and more and similarly charging fans more and more whilst meaning the unrelenting chase for sponsorship could be toned down a little as well.
Just a few wage landmarks here:
Johnny Haynes, first £100 a week player in 1961 (£1,900 today).
Bobby Charlton first £1000 a week player in 1968 (£15,000 today).
John Barnes, first £10,000 a week player in 1992 (£18,000 today).
Sol Campbell, first £100,000 a week player in 2001 (£147,000 today).

Messi on about £1M a week, Neymar over £600k a week, Bale £500k a week, KDB £400k a week and Sancho £350k a week (which is somewhat extraordinary even by these numbers).
 
Elbow beards said:
Rabin on the case
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I don't know what to say about that disgraceful rant because there is very little that civilised Brits can say that will atone in any way at all for this shameful bigot who masquerades as a comedian. It rejects every civilised value that this country has claimed to be proud of for generations and is, as you so rightly say, "incredibly disturbing to hear". And for it to end with animal noises of approval in the studio was disgusting beyond belief. If Arsenal were really a football institution they would at the very least inform Mr Davies that he is no longer welcome in their stadium and dissociate themselves from every word he uttered. But then we know the letters they prefer to write...
 
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Brian's Kid said:
More propaganda being injected to the mainstream media from Liverpool.

Liverpool and Chelsea sent unbelievable £800m transfer reminder by Man City
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I inadvertently clicked on that, can you add in the source if it's an Echo link. (I know I could/should have looked at the url when hovering but I forgot).

Anyway, to save anyone else the bother, what the Echo seem to be complaining about is that our - largely unaffected by covid & injuries - team that played against Arsenal is much more expensive (after adjusting for football-inflation) than their team (or Chelsea's) which had some first teamers missing such as Allisson and Lukaku. Bizarrely, they think this means the comparison is justified but actually it just shows that their teams are of lower value when you take out expensive players. Maybe their reporters don't do maths.
 
Centurions said:
I honestly fail to understand why anyone but a Liverpool football club fan would read the Liverpool Echo, it's purely a mouthpiece for the club. Even Everton fans don't read it. You might as well read rawk or redcafe and take everything written there as gospel.
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If you use NewsNow.co.uk then you receive a news feed with anything city related in it. Always good to get a full view, the good, the bad, the ugly about what people are saying about us. I do it because you can't defend against what you don't know/read up on.
 
Nicholas van Whatsisface said:
Excellent post - and the point you make around the reality of most mainstream media being more nuanced than a simple, binary, reductive all good/all bad picture is an important one.

Although personally there are publications I would categorically draw the line at - such as the Daily Mail, the Sun and the Telegraph - as I simply cannot countenance supporting them in any way given the damage their agenda causes both nationally and internationally. That’s not to invalidate all their writers and the perspectives they cover, but their overall editorial direction is just way too poisonous for me to conscionably give them the clicks.

I read the Guardian on politics and culture, although as their audience is now so heavily weighted towards the US, I do find their editorial is inevitably following the money and is losing what balance it did once have - which is disappointing. But their sports reporting is beyond the pale - a mix of terrible writing, shameless, myopic agenda-driven propaganda, and outright lies make it impossible to take seriously.

There is so little quality sports journalism in the mainstream media these days it’s no wonder people are turning to independent sources for a far more interesting take on the stories of the day - where the relative lack of pressure on purely chasing clicks allows for some actual substance to the writing.

As an example, most mainstream football journalists are completely incapable of actually grasping and relaying tactical developments in the game, so resort to simplified characterisations of managers and Clubs to reduce football to the most basic ‘good guys/bad guys’ storylines that a five year old can relate to from playing cops and robbers with their mates. It allows them to apply simple storytelling forms to a subject they are completely incapable of adding any insight to - which any reader can easily pick up and understand.

And in the current storyline, Liverpool/United/Arsenal are the good guys - representing the soul of the game, while City/Newcastle/PSG are the pantomime villain bad guys trying to break in and steal their crown. A simple, reductive storyline straight out of little red riding hood and the big bad wolf. Add in an appealing undercurrent of racism which always plays well in the UK, and it’s a winning formula which requires no knowledge of the game to carry off!

We’re lucky enough to have some of the most innovative managers in modern football working in the Premier League at the moment, yet our media wastes the opportunity to try and engage them in tactical discussions they’re completely incapable of supporting, and instead reduces them to basic caricatures to fit the mindlessly simplified narrative they’re far more comfortable pedalling.
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Excellent post.
 
Brian's Kid said:
Interesting that any deal done by city with any entity in the middle East comes under scrutiny from the authorities and media alike as to whether they are linked to the club in any way, yet when other clubs e.g. rags/scousers set up with US companies there is no reaction (at least not publicly or by the media). Smacks of institutional prejudice/racism to me, far bigger than just football or city. Alan Davies' podcast probably sums up the views of many media outlets in this country.
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Southamptons Chinese owners.
 
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