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Marvin said:
Given the number of buys I am not expecting City to be top 6 this season, and I agree Mancini may pay the price for buying so many players. The trouble is UEFA's new financial regulations forced our hand.
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We've only bought 4 players, maybe soon to be 5.

Finishing outside the top 4 let alone the top 6 would be a disaster and almost certainly would see another shakeup in the squad/management.
 
I've heard various fees. The most likey seems to be £16 mill + Ireland + £2mill add ons. Tbf I'm not too unhappy with that arrangement.

For those of us who went to West Ham last season you could tell the side that played were playing for a place this season, swp did ok, Ireland was poor....the writing was on the wall.

As for MON, he has my respect, has conducted himself with dignity throughout the deal.
 
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V MYSTERYMAN said:
Marvin ,

I am a realist in an ideal world I would prefer him to have stayed but with the deal on offer for me it's a no brainer Villa can use it and improve the team / squad overall . Milner is good professional and strives to improve totally teetotal and very ambitious . Settles in quickly and if the deal didn't happen ( I hope it does ) he would have no problems about getting on with the job at Villa as he proved when he was actually at Bodymoor Heath about to sign for us in 2006 for 4 mill on deadline days when Newcastle pulled the plug on the deal . When he plays wide he is an up and down player tracks back and stops people getting crosses in but as Newcastle fans told us his ratio of balls in wide isn't as good as say Young we now have a young kid called albrighton who delivers exceptionally well from wide positions . Milner is 25 he is nowhere near what Gerrard was at that age but you can see the comparisons . I maintain he will be a decent signing for City and do you a job but he is not going to be a match winner . His passing is not as good as Irelands but his versatality and stamina are things you are going to need to win things . I am not anti City I infact wouldn't mind you lot winning it but think you simply have bought in too many people to gell straightaway . Wouldn't bet on Mancini seeing Xmas either .
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I watched your friendly v Valencia and Albrighton was very good. Ashley Young is a great crosser of the ball as well. Points taken.

I don't think City fans expect Milner to unlock defences with a flick or a little through ball. We've got other players to do that. It's about getting the mix right

I agree City may struggle to get the best of the players, but I would expect Milner to settle in quicker than the foreign buys. If Mancini is smart about things he wont play all the new signings straight away.

Given the number of buys I am not expecting City to be top 6 this season, and I agree Mancini may pay the price for buying so many players. The trouble is UEFA's new financial regulations forced our hand.
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Good points, but I think the new signings will do well, and may surprise a few people.

Interesting that when Mancini was asked at the press conference what they would bring to the team, he highlighted their physical strength. Yaya, kolarov and Boateng should thrive in the premier league.

Silva looks lightweight, but so does Modric, and he should have enough strong players around him to show his skills.

I'm sure we'll be a lot stronger than last season, and the bookies agree with me.

Come on you blues!
 
the talisman said:
Marvin said:
I watched your friendly v Valencia and Albrighton was very good. Ashley Young is a great crosser of the ball as well. Points taken.

I don't think City fans expect Milner to unlock defences with a flick or a little through ball. We've got other players to do that. It's about getting the mix right

I agree City may struggle to get the best of the players, but I would expect Milner to settle in quicker than the foreign buys. If Mancini is smart about things he wont play all the new signings straight away.

Given the number of buys I am not expecting City to be top 6 this season, and I agree Mancini may pay the price for buying so many players. The trouble is UEFA's new financial regulations forced our hand.
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Good points, but I think the new signings will do well, and may surprise a few people.

Interesting that when Mancini was asked at the press conference what they would bring to the team, he highlighted their physical strength. Yaya, kolarov and Boateng should thrive in the premier league.

Silva looks lightweight, but so does Modric, and he should have enough strong players around him to show his skills.

I'm sure we'll be a lot stronger than last season, and the bookies agree with me.

Come on you blues!
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I'm excited about the quality of the players we've bought but wary about the impact of the World Cup and briefest of pre-seasons
 
V MYSTERYMAN said:
Marvin ,

I am a realist in an ideal world I would prefer him to have stayed but with the deal on offer for me it's a no brainer Villa can use it and improve the team / squad overall . Milner is good professional and strives to improve totally teetotal and very ambitious . Settles in quickly and if the deal didn't happen ( I hope it does ) he would have no problems about getting on with the job at Villa as he proved when he was actually at Bodymoor Heath about to sign for us in 2006 for 4 mill on deadline days when Newcastle pulled the plug on the deal . When he plays wide he is an up and down player tracks back and stops people getting crosses in but as Newcastle fans told us his ratio of balls in wide isn't as good as say Young we now have a young kid called albrighton who delivers exceptionally well from wide positions . Milner is 25 he is nowhere near what Gerrard was at that age but you can see the comparisons . I maintain he will be a decent signing for City and do you a job but he is not going to be a match winner . His passing is not as good as Irelands but his versatality and stamina are things you are going to need to win things . I am not anti City I infact wouldn't mind you lot winning it but think you simply have bought in too many people to gell straightaway . Wouldn't bet on Mancini seeing Xmas either .
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The way I see it Milner is not being brought in to 'win' City games; we have Silva, Johnson, Johnson (if he regains fitness), Tevez, Ade, Bellers (if he stays), Balotelli (if he comes) or another striker if he doesn't. People also have this idea that Yaya is a deep lying destroyer and will remain in a defensive midfield position but there is so much more to his game in an attacking sense.

I personally think Milner is a canny buy and I agree with the OP in that his versatility is his greatest strength. With players around him of the calibre we have Milner will, I think, be able to bring more control to his game. We have other players to 'win' us the match but they need the right players behind them and I think Milner will help them play their game.
Also, with regards to his speed, he's no greyhound but he has greater mobility than De Jong, Barry and possibly Kompany.
 
Uber Blue said:
V MYSTERYMAN said:
Marvin ,

I am a realist in an ideal world I would prefer him to have stayed but with the deal on offer for me it's a no brainer Villa can use it and improve the team / squad overall . Milner is good professional and strives to improve totally teetotal and very ambitious . Settles in quickly and if the deal didn't happen ( I hope it does ) he would have no problems about getting on with the job at Villa as he proved when he was actually at Bodymoor Heath about to sign for us in 2006 for 4 mill on deadline days when Newcastle pulled the plug on the deal . When he plays wide he is an up and down player tracks back and stops people getting crosses in but as Newcastle fans told us his ratio of balls in wide isn't as good as say Young we now have a young kid called albrighton who delivers exceptionally well from wide positions . Milner is 25 he is nowhere near what Gerrard was at that age but you can see the comparisons . I maintain he will be a decent signing for City and do you a job but he is not going to be a match winner . His passing is not as good as Irelands but his versatality and stamina are things you are going to need to win things . I am not anti City I infact wouldn't mind you lot winning it but think you simply have bought in too many people to gell straightaway . Wouldn't bet on Mancini seeing Xmas either .
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The way I see it Milner is not being brought in to 'win' City games; we have Silva, Johnson, Johnson (if he regains fitness), Tevez, Ade, Bellers (if he stays), Balotelli (if he comes) or another striker if he doesn't. People also have this idea that Yaya is a deep lying destroyer and will remain in a defensive midfield position but there is so much more to his game in an attacking sense.

I personally think Milner is a canny buy and I agree with the OP in that his versatility is his greatest strength. With players around him of the calibre we have Milner will, I think, be able to bring more control to his game. We have other players to 'win' us the match but they need the right players behind them and I think Milner will help them play their game.
Also, with regards to his speed, he's no greyhound but he has greater mobility than De Jong, Barry and possibly Kompany.
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Stephen Hawking on a beach has more mobility than Gareth Barry at the moment.
 
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